Liberals to promise a complete ban of all handguns?

[Cali Scott]

I think almost everthing has been said in support of banning, but I'll just add one more comment.

Mark Lepine, remember that psycho. If there would have been a ban of assault weapons before he suddenly went nuts, those women would still be alive. After the killings, that type of weapon was banned and no more Montreal style massacres have occured.

How much simpler can it be?

What's that got to do with handguns which are far more widespread?

If there had been an assault weapon ban he would have used a handgun (legal or not), or a shotgun, or a can of gasoline & a lighter, a bomb or a automobile. Idiots are idiots Fudd. If he wanted to go out like he did nothing would have stopped him. He was a misogynist and hated women and would of killed them however he could.

I'd rather have a gun to protect myself from such idiots, thank you.

 

[P.B.]

Rifles and shotguns I can see a reason to own them for hunting. Hand guns are not used in hunting so why should anyone own one including criminals...

Only because we have had bassackward governments in place for too long. Hunting with a handgun was completely legal three decades ago. It is still done in very limited forms. There are nations that allow it, and it is done safely and with success. It is only our government that has convinced it's gullible people that it should not be done and therefor not allowed. Here are a few legitimate reasons for owning handguns. To protect life. To aid in enacting arrests (see 494 of the criminal code). To collect. To participate in the sport of target shooting.

Couldn't agree more. Can't stand guns and see no sane reason why anyone would want to carry/own one.

See sane reasons above. A lot of people feel the same way about prostitution as you do about guns. I just hope they don't support a ban because they don't like it. What kind of a country would we live in if we ban everything we can get a majority of people to hate?

 

[P.B.]

I think almost everthing has been said in support of banning, but I'll just add one more comment.

Mark Lepine, remember that psycho. If there would have been a ban of assault weapons before he suddenly went nuts, those women would still be alive. After the killings, that type of weapon was banned and no more Montreal style massacres have occured.

How much simpler can it be?

Fudd, I feel your comment was just plain naive and ignorant. Remember the Oka crisis early last decade? By your logic, it was all a part of our imagination. Because fully automatic weapons were BANNED in the late 1960s, those natives did not have fully automatic AK-47s. It was all an elaborate camera trick.

Mark Lapine's actions were planned and deliberate. He could of easily obtained another, maybe even deadlier, weapon. To prevent such events in the future, I feel we need to address the root of the problem. What caused him to hate so much? How come this was not detected and treated? Society failed him and we paid the price. If we don't get actions from our leaders that will really address these serious issues, instead of smoke screens and creation of scapegoats, we will continue to pay the price.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

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I'd rather have a gun to protect myself from such idiots, thank you.

Therein lies the root of all of the U.S.'s problems.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I think almost everthing has been said in support of banning, but I'll just add one more comment.

Mark Lepine, remember that psycho. If there would have been a ban of assault weapons before he suddenly went nuts, those women would still be alive. After the killings, that type of weapon was banned and no more Montreal style massacres have occured.

How much simpler can it be?

Ever see the seized weapons police regularly display? There have been a number of shootings involving automatic assault weapons. The gangs prefer them because they don't have to bother aiming - just spray away.

 

[Flogger]

Mark Lepine, remember that psycho. If there would have been a ban of assault weapons before he suddenly went nuts, those women would still be alive. After the killings, that type of weapon was banned and no more Montreal style massacres have occured.

Gamil Gharbi (aka Mark Lepine) used a Ruger Mini-14 which is still very much legal. The Mini-14 is NOT an assault rifle. An assault rifle by definition is capable of selective fire (full auto and semi-auto). And these have not been available in Canada for many years (at least 30).

All of the rifles that were made prohibited are the ones that were used at Oka.

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Yeh!!!!! Finally!
That's Mordred ("Vengeance"). And that's the spell that enabled his conception.

GBM - but what does

"ahn'yal nathrach
oorth vas beth-ud
doch yiel dien veh "

Mean? Is that Gaelic / Welsh?

 

[BunnyRanch]

I just heard this on the radio on the way home tonight... that Paul Martin will announce a campaign promise tomorrow that the Liberals will try and bring in a ban on all handguns.

I absolutely weap for this country and what is happening to it under successive Liberal governments.

Our forefathers fought and died for this? To be regulated into the ground in every conceivable area of our lives by a bunch of corrupt criminal politicians from Quebec?

This has to end. I can't live in this country if this doesn't stop. I hope the Bloc Quebecois wipes out the Liberals in Quebec. Please, please! Seperation can't come soon enough. Both countries, Canada and Quebec, need to seperate so that they can have governments that respond to the concerns of their people, rather than governments that throw up smoke screens to distract people from their pilfering of the treasury - like punishing legal gun owners as a way of supposedly "responding" to gun crimes committed by criminals with illegal guns.

This is just insane. Paul Martin was supposed to be a good future Prime Mininster. He has turned out to be an unmitigated disaster... and it just gets worse and worse.

I try to stay out of politics because I think as a business owner all you do is piss off some of your clients and it costs you money, but here goes.

I love my guns and I know if they take them away from me the bad guys will still have them and I will be in big trouble. FIGHT GUN CONTROL!!!

I will fight for freedom of speech every day of my life and will forever. I did an interview Tuesday and mentioned it on MSNBC, I am very proud that I was invited to be on Howard Stern's Last show next Friday in NYC and will have a lot of the girls there to be in the march to Sirius. I don't need gov. to control what I listen to. If I don't like something I turn the channel.

Do you agree with me or am I off base, liberal or conservative it doesn't matter these are two things I believe in.

 

[Cali Scott]

Therein lies the root of all of the U.S.'s problems.

Down here I don't count on the Police to protect me and my family. Even up there in B.C. my house is about 25 - 35 minutes from the cop shop (Coquitlam detachment) with little patrolling done the area (Belcarra) except to keep the visitors to Buntzen lake and White Pine beach / Lake Sasamat alcohol free in the summer.

The L.A. riots are still very fresh in my memory thank you. It's really a brisk slap in the face to see stores being burned and looted just a few miles away and cars with armed individuals cruising near your neighborhood. The police were nowhere to be found. Now there's "racial Tension" related to "Tookie" Williams and a possible clemency to stay his death.

The U.S.'s problems are because of idiots with guns, not responsible gun owners. Unfortunately, those same idiots cannot be counted upon to turn in their guns in the event of a ban on them. Should automobiles be banned because some idiots get drunk or otherwise irresponsible with them and kill others? Should the aotomotive manufacturers be held liable for those fools that use their product in an irresponsible manner?

I must reiterate: to see the effects of a ban simply go to Google and type in "Australia Gun Ban".

 

[Fudd]

OK OK I hate to admit it but I've clarified it with a gun nut friend of mine that Lepine used a hunting rifle called a Luger Mini 14 and not an AK47 which I swore I heard the news reports say. But I'm sure when the government announce an assault rifle ban they said it was due to Montreal.

 

[S.G. Gibson]

Ruger Mini-14. I think it only became a "hunting rifle" when Ruger put a fixed stock on it. (it's illegal to hunt with short barrlled rifles in Alberta) Before that it was an assault rifle with folding stock and had a high capacity mag. Remember the A-team?

 

[S.G. Gibson]

And your point is?

The mini-14 is not a hunting rifle, it's an assault rifle.

 

[Fudd]

A-Team I loved the show as a kid. I think there is a trivia question here.

 

[P.B.]

OK OK I hate to admit it but I've clarified it with a gun nut friend of mine that Lepine used a hunting rifle called a Luger Mini 14 and not an AK47 which I swore I heard the news reports say. But I'm sure when the government announce an assault rifle ban they said it was due to Montreal.

Uh... that's Ruger. Luger is a German pistol. But specific names aside, do you still believe that banning a specific gun, or any object for that matter, will remove it from criminal hands? Or stop a determined calculated criminal?

 

[Flogger]

Ruger Mini-14. I think it only became a "hunting rifle" when Ruger put a fixed stock on it. (it's illegal to hunt with short barrlled rifles in Alberta) Before that it was an assault rifle with folding stock and had a high capacity mag. Remember the A-team?

the mini 14 has always come from the factory with a fixed stock (either wood or synthetic), the folding stocks are after market parts. tv and the movies are not a good place to find 'facts' about firearms.

it is the .223 cartridge that the mini 14 uses that is not allowed for hunting big game (it is fine for coyote, gophers, etc) in alberta. the mini 14 has an 18.5" barrel which is not considered 'short' for legal purposes.

it is simply a semi automatic rifle. it is not capable of full auto fire, therefore it is not an assualt rifle.

also, the type of rifle that garbi used in montreal is irrelevant as it took the police 45 minutes! to arrive on the scene. now, if any of the students had a handgun in her purse, it might have ended very differently.

 

[Discombobbled]

So you took one of Kim's classes. Do you know what Leyton said about the subject? Maybe not. He is a long way from BC

Actually, I'm not really sure what Leyton had to say about the matter, but I do hold a Masters in Criminology from the University known to be the best in the country on the issue of crime. Thus, I've studied under the best the country has to offer academic wise, not that that always matters. However, they do get by far the most funding for crime studies of any University in the country.