no idea why she closed the William location but the new location I believe is doing really well. Without the Hanky Panky.
LE Activity Post C36?
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Don't get me wrong. I read everything out there possible so far about this law but it is still very unclear. I understand we need to see some examples first.
And also they don't need to get license. They are not operating like EB. They are just providing massage. Is it illegal to provide massage? My argument is what if I am only going there for massage, how can they charge me for that? Don't they need to prove something sexual happening first. All we know at this point from the board that they provide HE to a few individuals but that can't mean anything.
Places like 'Nan Acupuncture Therapy' is providing massage and cupping therapy and I would like to think they are legal because nothing sexual is happening. Truly legitimate alternative treatment to physio. It did help me before, which physio couldn't fix completely after 8 visits, but cupping did help.
This is a very good point. But can't you say it's cheaper. Or I can say I was there for Cupping Therapy.
I read all the threads out there so far about this law but it is still very unclear on certain things. I understand we need to see some examples first.
And also they don't need to get license. They are not operating like EB. They are just providing massage. Is it illegal to provide massage? My argument is what if I am only going there for massage, how can they charge me for that? Don't they need to prove something sexual happening first. All we know at this point from the board that they provide HE to a few individuals but that can't mean anything.
Places like 'Nan Acupuncture Therapy' is providing massage and cupping therapy and I would like to think they are legal because nothing sexual is happening. Truly legitimate alternative treatment to physio. It did help me before, which physio couldn't fix completely after 8 visits, but cupping did help.
This is a very good point. But can't you say it's cheaper. Or I can say I was there for Cupping Therapy.
Under C-36 it is not illegal for the girl to give you a massage or a happy ending. It is legal for you to get a massage but illegal for you to have a happy ending. Unless caught in the act of receiving a service it would be impossible to prove.
Under city bylaws, yes they need a license unless they are home based.
A person who carries on a business listed in the Doing Business in Winnipeg By-Law 91/2008 without a valid and subsisting Licence from the City, is guilty of an offence and is liable upon summary conviction to the following minimum fines:
for a first offence - a fine no less than the amount of the Licence fee (in addition to being required to obtain a Licence)
escorts and massages - for a first offence a fine no less than $500.00 (in addition to being required to obtain a Licence) Which would be $4450.00
A Body Rub Parlour is any premises, or any part of any premises, where members of the general public attend or are invited to attend to receive a body rub from a body rub practitioner for a fee.
A body rub practitioner is an individual who provides or offers to provide: Body Rubs for a fee
The definition of a body rub practitioner does not include:
A medical or therapeutic professional who provides massages as part of medical or therapeutic treatment and who is currently registered or otherwise entitled to practice under the laws of the Province of Manitoba
A massage therapist
An individual who carries on a business or occupation that is limited exclusively to massaging of the feet, hands, head or face
A Provincially certified esthetician who administers massages as part of a skin care treatment, where the massage is for the purposes of product application and is a minor or incidental and secondary part of the treatment
For places like Nan, I am sure they have all the proper licenses. When you go to MPs. you are not going for a massage since they are not massage providers, you are going for a body rub. It may sound like semantics but it is regulated.
Under city bylaws, yes they need a license unless they are home based.
A person who carries on a business listed in the Doing Business in Winnipeg By-Law 91/2008 without a valid and subsisting Licence from the City, is guilty of an offence and is liable upon summary conviction to the following minimum fines:
for a first offence - a fine no less than the amount of the Licence fee (in addition to being required to obtain a Licence)
escorts and massages - for a first offence a fine no less than $500.00 (in addition to being required to obtain a Licence) Which would be $4450.00
A Body Rub Parlour is any premises, or any part of any premises, where members of the general public attend or are invited to attend to receive a body rub from a body rub practitioner for a fee.
A body rub practitioner is an individual who provides or offers to provide: Body Rubs for a fee
The definition of a body rub practitioner does not include:
A medical or therapeutic professional who provides massages as part of medical or therapeutic treatment and who is currently registered or otherwise entitled to practice under the laws of the Province of Manitoba
A massage therapist
An individual who carries on a business or occupation that is limited exclusively to massaging of the feet, hands, head or face
A Provincially certified esthetician who administers massages as part of a skin care treatment, where the massage is for the purposes of product application and is a minor or incidental and secondary part of the treatment
For places like Nan, I am sure they have all the proper licenses. When you go to MPs. you are not going for a massage since they are not massage providers, you are going for a body rub. It may sound like semantics but it is regulated.
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Wow you've convinced me with tales of your clairvoyant gut I look forward to your numerous alarmist posts everytime you drive by a cruiser car in Winnipeg
It's the unmarked surveillance cars you don't see that you need to worry about! Some of the old timers on here may remember the place on Arlington St (west side) just south of Ellice, I think it was called For Your Eyes Only or something along that line opened around 2001. Well stopped by one horny day and after circling the block 3x and not seeing anything suspicious went in for my hour. Well on leaving was pulled over by an unmarked car at Home and Portage, put into the back of a can with three big detectives and grilled for an eternity it seemed on what went on! Made up a bunch of BS and stuck to it, however was supeoned twice but both times I was out of country. End of story, never did hear the outcome but tgat was it for me no more MP's or residential homes! Scared the shit out of me at the time.
No one new sydnee was under surveillance until it was to late! Then a whole bunch of people had some explaining to do!
Phoenix has an interesting timeline, from what I read they started out like Nan, they bill themselves as a Naturopathic Practitioner, and as you go through the posts over on CERB it was massages with no Happy ending, then at one point one girl started happy endings and got popular so then the other girls started more than likely to keep customers because the one girl was getting all the requests. And based on my visit with Linda there last week it, a HE is not always to be expected. The owner if he realizes it or not may have started as a non regulated business providing non traditional therapy but when the massages started his business fell under the regulated businesses for which he would not have a license for.
http://winnipeg.ca/cms/license_branch/business_license.stm
So to answer part two, if you wanted to open and be legitimate and if you opened shop tomorrow and hired RMT's for massages then no license, if they are not RMT's like the girls are at MP's etc. then you would need a body rub license and you would need to be within the downtown area where they have mapped it out.
As for the individual part, if the MP is working from her own home and so does not need a license from the city and would be ok under C-36 which allows you to work from home as well. If another girl works there as well, and if she lives there she is also fine under both, but if she works there but lives elsewhere then under C-36 the home owner is running a bawdy house. Something to also be aware of in the case of home based, if kids are in the house, and they are under 18 then the game changes and the charges get much more serious
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On a related note we should also avoid the shopping malls
"A Winnipeg judge recently sent a court sheriff to a nearby shopping centre to conscript shoppers into last-minute jury duty. The order followed a legitimate, but rarely-used court authority. It only emphasizes the financial hardship some face when serving on a jury."
"A Winnipeg judge recently sent a court sheriff to a nearby shopping centre to conscript shoppers into last-minute jury duty. The order followed a legitimate, but rarely-used court authority. It only emphasizes the financial hardship some face when serving on a jury."
That is because you likely listened to your inner voice. The one that tells you something is amiss. The same voice that told you when you were young, not to stick a 2" firecracker in your ear like that weird kid who lived next door.
Sydnee was a nice lady who could suck a bowling ball through a 3" hose but she was not discrete. She openly flaunted the law and that's why at some point most of us avoided her. You just knew something bad was going to happen when LE and the politicians had grown tired of her shenanigans.
That is the take home message from all this C-36 nonsense. If you are careful about who you see and how you conduct your affairs then you have nothing to worry about. If a situation seems uncomfortable then walk away. Go home and jerk off.
It's going to be the dumb guys who stuck firecrackers in their ears when they were 12, who get stupid and get caught. And I won't feel sorry for them.
Stick to the known, reliable INDY SP's and you'll be free to continue to fuck yourself silly or until you go broke.
Me too! I was seeing some of the young newbies to the business before Sydnee took them under her wing and later i had outcalls with them through calling Sydnee. Stopped going to her place tho Luckily!! As i know guys whi did that were questioned by LE and forced to testify. Main reason i stayed away from incalls at her place was to stay away from her... very aggressive and i wanted the young fresh girls. She often threw parties where we clients would be invited and a number of girls would be there for hire. She was eager to take part too as a freebie. Sounds good but also running into men u might know there was scary. She was nice and a horny cougar but you are right... an uneasy feeling being there! The young girls did need someone kike her to learn the ropes
Considering how many times you banged your head with your double nought spy hat we'll put some aside for you!:doh::doh:
We'll pass the hat around for your bail.
