Ladies: what is the nicest thing a client has done for you?

[laurel love]

Somewhere I stumbled on a thread asking men about their experiences giving 'extras' to the ladies they see, and I wanted to offer the ladies a chance to voice their experiences.

I will lead:

A wonderful man paid the tuition for my daughter and encouraged me to encourage her to go for a particular field. The result is: she is making 'man-size' money in a career she loves and fits. She was also very lucky to jump at it when she did as she was picked up by a great firm and they love her....happy ending!

We all want to rescue people, but giving them the tools to help themselves (education), is the greatest help. My daughter was struggling to make a go with two dead end jobs and she was headed for physical and mental breakdown...

The sweetest part was that he did this without expectation of repayment. He was particular about that. Giving with strings attached isn't really giving is it? He was very happy to hear that she graduated at the top of her class and is now up there with the best of them.

So, (partly as a response to another thread) for the gents who do little extras for the sps, the question is: what are you asking for in return? What are your expectations?

I think there are few men like the man I am referring to. I believe it is difficult for many people to give without anticipating physical or material returns.

 

[Yman]

To the part of thread asking men what they hope to get in return : When I've extended a kindness without strings I've expressed to the recipient that I hope that one day they will find themselves in a similar position to the same sort of thing for another.

 

[juniper]

Giving with no expectations of receiving anything in return (except satisfaction re another's success) is a very high form of human activity. Giving anonymously with no strings attached is an even higher form.

 

[normisanas]

Giving with no expectations of receiving anything in return (except satisfaction re another's success) is a very high form of human activity. Giving anonymously with no strings attached is an even higher form.

I would only put giving anonymously as really the only noble one.

I'd also like to add that if it does not hurt to give, it's not giving at all. So for that guy who gave tuition to that girl, if he was fabulously wealthy and so giving involved no sacrifice, then I would suggest that his giving, especially since it was not anonymous, was not truly giving.

Here's something to think about -
Who is truly giving - the extremely rich man who gives you a house, or the poor man who gives you the shirt off his back?

 

[jnewton]

... Here's something to think about -
Who is truly giving - the extremely rich man who gives you a house, or the poor man who gives you the shirt off his back?

I have to disagree with this. Although I understand the sentiment, that the more limited the means, the more of a sacrifice the gift is, that does not mean that the rich man who gives does so for any less noble reasons. After all, he does not HAVE to give at all. All of that said, I tend personally more to the lesser means end of the spectrum, which limits how much I can give, but I do not begrudge those who are better off who can and do give more.

As for giving without expectation of return, I suppose that it can and has been argued that even the enjoyment of giving and seeing the good it does is a reward and that the giving of the gift anticipates that enjoyment. Whatever. The enjoyment I receive at giving a gift simply does not occupy the same plane as giving in expectation of some particular reward. I have a friend I sometimes send a little money. I have not seen her for almost a year and have no idea when or if I will again. It is hardly done in expectation of a reward. I do it because I care about her well being and yes, because it makes me happy to do so. Am I getting a reward? Sure, but that reward has nothing to do with any action or lack of action on the part of the person receiving the gift.

 

[Dgodus]

I don't think he's saying a rich man giving isn't doing so for good reasons. He's just saying the man who doesn't have much is giving more. Best way to look at it is, is through a percentage. Two people with disposable incomes of 4k/month and 12k/month. Both donate 500 to a charity - who gave more. I left twenty bucks for the housekeeper after spending 4 days in a hotel. Twenty bucks really doesn't mean squat to me, doesn't mean I don't appreciate the fact that it will make the housekeepers day and am happy to do so.

Conversely, and it has nothing to do with begrudging a rich man his money, when you're rich it's alot easier to toss around certain sums of money and often can be done with little thought. So yes it's alot easier for someone of significant means to just donate and to do so without real thought or sacrifice it isn't that noble.

 

[sevenofnine]

nice story,
and i agree its the only way to give a gift to some one, even if its only a gift of friendship,
with no strings attached, no expectations

and rich or not he bothered to pay attention and care,
again nice story

 

[Ms. Yoko Anna]

Foot massage.

 

[AngelaAurora]

return business

 

[jnewton]

nice story,
and i agree its the only way to give a gift to some one, even if its only a gift of friendship,
with no strings attached, no expectations

and rich or not he bothered to pay attention and care,
again nice story

My (intended) point exactly. Yes, maybe it isn't as great a sacrifice but that does not make it less meaningful and it does not make it less indicative of his character. The point is, he saw a need and was willing to do something about it.

 

[Dgodus]

My (intended) point exactly. Yes, maybe it isn't as great a sacrifice but that does not make it less meaningful and it does not make it less indicative of his character. The point is, he saw a need and was willing to do something about it.

Since this thread went off topic from the get go on a philosophical angle, dont think I'm referring to original post when saying anything. In reference to the op what makes the gift meaningful is the direction he gave (a particular field).

Like everything in this world however giving is relative, and willingness to give is predicated on ability to give. Simply because someone doesn't give something doesn't mean they dont want to, and simply giving something doesn't mean the giver cares one iota about the recipient. As I've mentioned I dont begrudge anyone their money, so dont read that into at all. I also mentioned leaving a 20 for a housekeeper, doesn't mean anything to me, however it is significant to the housekeeper (worked in that dept during my ski bum days, I know exactly what it means to them), although I dont care one bit about the housekeeper at all I was just in a good mood and it felt nice to know I would make someone's day. It doesn't show anything about my character at all, other than I'll get some enjoyment out of being altruistic. This scenario can be easily altered to giving a car, house, boat, even a huge grant to a university. Also dont forget that a gift, donation, whatever has two meanings, that of the recipient and that of the giver. As was mentioned some do give things with the expectation of a return. Whereas I'd never send my sister or mother for a spa day I will send a gf, not because it's a nice thing for them (although I will let them believe it) but it garuntees me at least a day of peace to do what I want without reproach. Everything in this world is relative to the situation, and yes a poor man giving the shirt off his back is much more significant than someone with boatloads of cash giving a house, as that house really doesn't mean much (if anything at all) to the rich man, but that shirt means everything to the poor man (and remember this has no effect to the receiver's appreciate or need of the gift, nor does it diminish what the rich man intends IF his intention is good, it's indicative much more on ability than character, that distinction is important).

Now I'm sure the examples given in this thread dont apply to the situation of someone just tossing their money around, usually as the recipient of the gift someone can tell the intentions behind the gift and I'm certain neither the OP or Angie would post about it being a thoughtful thing if that had of been the case.

 

[Dickson]

Two points I would make.

1) The gift is only a gift if the person getting it sees it as a gift. Forget the value of the gift, it has very little importance. Who care if it is rich person or a poor person. It is the state of mind of the person recieving the gift. I have given a car and a house to a SP and unless the person sees it as a gift or appreciates it it is just as nice as say a card, flowers, or candie. The value does not play a part. Some SPs are more thankful for a dinner at McDonalds as taking them to Mortons. I know a lot of SPs throw away the gifts I give them. Recently I spent 30,000 on a SP who hates me for it. She wanted me to fix her roof and her toliets. So get it out of your mind that the value or how rich or poor the guy is matters.

2) Is the gift appreciated? No on gives for no reason. We give for a reason. If it is a smile or knowing we made a difference. There is a reason. Even if it is anonymously there is a reason. If you give a person a day at the spa or a day with a stylist who takes them shopping and buys them three outfits including shoes, boots, jewelry, coats, etc.. but then a week later they throw it out what value is that. If you give them money for thier children's education and they give it to thier EX to go drinking and for his drug use. How good is that. I feel like shit and swear I will never give again. I hate these fund raising groups that hit me for money and I give and never really knowing if it went to the people that deserve it. I remember being in a fast food restaurant in Southern California a number of years ago and watching these two young boys as they tried to buy a meal. They did not have enough money to get one burger. They sat there and counted the money three times and you could see how upset they were as they did not have enough. So I bought them each a full meal and had the guy take it to them. You never saw two boys with bigger smiles on thier face. They did know it was me but I watched them it was a great feeling. I will do that sometimes in a grocery store. May sound creapy but I will follow a lady and her kids thought the store see how she is with the kids. See how the kids are and go into the same cash out line. When she is told how much I tell her I will pay for it. Most cases the ladies are so thankful. Some have even cried. I have had a few who just say thank you and walk off. Paying it forward is not that uncommon. But we do it for a reason. WE all want something. There is always a reason.

 

[uncleg]

Two points I would make.

1) The gift is only a gift if the person getting it sees it as a gift. Forget the value of the gift, it has very little importance. Who care if it is rich person or a poor person. It is the state of mind of the person recieving the gift. I have given a car and a house to a SP and unless the person sees it as a gift or appreciates it it is just as nice as say a card, flowers, or candie. The value does not play a part. Some SPs are more thankful for a dinner at McDonalds as taking them to Mortons. I know a lot of SPs throw away the gifts I give them. Recently I spent 30,000 on a SP who hates me for it. She wanted me to fix her roof and her toliets. So get it out of your mind that the value or how rich or poor the guy is matters.

2) Is the gift appreciated? No on gives for no reason. We give for a reason. If it is a smile or knowing we made a difference. There is a reason. Even if it is anonymously there is a reason. If you give a person a day at the spa or a day with a stylist who takes them shopping and buys them three outfits including shoes, boots, jewelry, coats, etc.. but then a week later they throw it out what value is that. If you give them money for thier children's education and they give it to thier EX to go drinking and for his drug use. How good is that. I feel like shit and swear I will never give again. I hate these fund raising groups that hit me for money and I give and never really knowing if it went to the people that deserve it. I remember being in a fast food restaurant in Southern California a number of years ago and watching these two young boys as they tried to buy a meal. They did not have enough money to get one burger. They sat there and counted the money three times and you could see how upset they were as they did not have enough. So I bought them each a full meal and had the guy take it to them. You never saw two boys with bigger smiles on thier face. They did know it was me but I watched them it was a great feeling. I will do that sometimes in a grocery store. May sound creapy but I will follow a lady and her kids thought the store see how she is with the kids. See how the kids are and go into the same cash out line. When she is told how much I tell her I will pay for it. Most cases the ladies are so thankful. Some have even cried. I have had a few who just say thank you and walk off. Paying it forward is not that uncommon. But we do it for a reason. WE all want something. There is always a reason.

Really...................and how does this relate to the OP's question ? Same crap, we get it. You have money, you sometimes give it to SP's for reasons that go beyond paying to get laid, they don't always appreciate it..............etc. Enough already, if you have a problem with tacky, ungrateful ho's, then maybe start making better choices, or give up on women and stick to making money, at least you seem to be good at that.:thumb:

 

[Dgodus]

I love tipping the housekeeping because they work so hard at such low wages and seldom do people think of them, so I know it will make them happy. Anyway, I know that giving can be almost more of a blessing to the giver.

Hooray! That job stunk (literally at times!), and no, most ppl dont tip their housekeeper. Except the Japanesse (spl?) everyday 2 bucks (for some reason they think you'll steal their stuff if they dont!)

I'm never sure what people expect to get back from gifts to be honest. I dont even think the people that give for that reason know what they want in return, they just want something. Doesn't make sense really, or I guess I'd need a different mindset to understand.

 

[Dickson]

Really...................and how does this relate to the OP's question ? Same crap, we get it. You have money, you sometimes give it to SP's for reasons that go beyond paying to get laid, they don't always appreciate it..............etc. Enough already, if you have a problem with tacky, ungrateful ho's, then maybe start making better choices, or give up on women and stick to making money, at least you seem to be good at that.:thumb:

So sorry uncleg but her questions were
Giving with strings attached isn't really giving is it? My comment is everyone gives for a reason even if it is anonymously. There is always strings attached. We get a feeling from giving.
what are you asking for in return? What are your expectations? For the gift to be appreciated. I do not want to be taken advantage of.

If in some way I insulted you or said anything to upset you my apology.

 

[Dickson]

Hooray! That job stunk (literally at times!), and no, most ppl dont tip their housekeeper. Except the Japanesse (spl?) everyday 2 bucks (for some reason they think you'll steal their stuff if they dont!)

I'm never sure what people expect to get back from gifts to be honest. I dont even think the people that give for that reason know what they want in return, they just want something. Doesn't make sense really, or I guess I'd need a different mindset to understand.

I just want the gift to be appreciated. It is not so much the words but what they do with it. Like the OP'd daughter going on and doing well in school. That makes giving worthwhile.

I always leave my pocket change in the room for the housekeeper unless they out of thier way. Then I will leave small bills.

 

[Cock Throppled]

No I did not pay him back, I offeres and he refused. The plan was for me to go look at the car and decide if I wan it. I had no idea he was going to bring it down and buy it. It is not a luxury car, it is 25 years old, did not cost much. He is a long time client I did not ask him to pay for it, if you are getting at something here, that I took it with out a second thought. I was actually shocked and in tears of his kindness. Appreciation for all have given him, which is my time and kindness. I am a giving thoughtful person. You can not force someone to take money. And to be honest as I like to save, I probably would of backed out buying a car and gone without. End of story I need not explain. I answered the ops question.

I happen to be very stubborn and independant and never ask for help even when I know I need it.

Is it a gift it it's something the person doesn't want or need? What if you're given a pony, but you live in an apartment?

This guy took a big chance. What if the car was completely inappropriate in size, reliability, age, type, maintenance costs, etc? I think it would have been much better to take you to look at it first to make sure it was what you really needed?

 

[Alix Turner]

A client gave me my first writing contracts
it was a leap of faith on his part, it was a lot of work for me and I spent an unreal amount of time doing the research and editing because I was dying to show him he hadn't misplaced his faith.

I guess it just meant a lot to me that he was willing to do that.

 

[uncleg]

So sorry uncleg but her questions were
Giving with strings attached isn't really giving is it? My comment is everyone gives for a reason even if it is anonymously. There is always strings attached. We get a felling from giving.
what are you asking for in return? What are your expectations? For the gift to be appreciated. I do not want to be taken advantage of.

If in some way I insulted you or said anything to upset you my apology.

So if the only strings attached are that it makes the giver feel good, then yes, nobody gives without strings attached.....................but you know, somehow I doubt that that's what the OP had in mind.

As to insulting or upsetting me, no, but even if you did I wouldn't sweat it.

 

[Dickson]

Ms Love I agree giving is more of a blessing for me than the person receiving the gift. I think I give to SPs because of my background. I was an orphan never knew my parents. Ran away from many of the foster homes I was placed in. Grew up on the streets. It was only when I was older and went out with a Doctor who said I should know my parents for health reasons as well I went out with a psychiatrist from Boston for a while. She felt I needed to know about my past and that made me looked back. We found someone who had worked in the facility I was place and they informed me that my mother may have been a prostitute and I was just not wanted. It was not uncommon in those days. I have always had a soft spot for SP's especially single moms. That is why I like to take them away and see the world from a different perspective. Make them feel like a princess for a few days.

I give to others because I always feel for the underdog. However I only let go of the gift if I know it is appreciated and does what it intended to do. Either to make them feel better, to help them, even just to make them smile. I would agree you do not always know what you want them to do. But when you see the emotion you know you hit something and it is the greatest gift. Does that answer your question why?