Also take into consideration that this was taking place in a residential neighborhood more than likely with kids playing on the street. Now think about how you would feel about your say 6 year old daughter playing on your front lawn and having horney guys exiting and entering the house all the time! Oh and remeber it is an illegal activity, just like J- walking, stupid but the law none the less!
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Neighborhood issues are something we've seen before. Jesse's (a place I never got to visit, but hear was great) was taken down in a similar way, but they had gone a little overbaord with the security lights and fences, etc. Syds place didn't ahve any outward appearance of what was going on inside, really.
But they did bust Jessie, and prosecuted. Whatever happened there? Did any of the Johns that weren't caught in flagrante delicto ever persued? Did list of clients ever get out? I know that was before computers were as widely used as today, but she must ahve had some kind of list...
Rubin
But they did bust Jessie, and prosecuted. Whatever happened there? Did any of the Johns that weren't caught in flagrante delicto ever persued? Did list of clients ever get out? I know that was before computers were as widely used as today, but she must ahve had some kind of list...
Rubin
They did convince some of the ladies to testify against her and one for sure was underage when she had been working there. So that was another charge the had on Jesse ... not much news on what the final versict was ...
are you kidding? symone are you saying you called the police?
any worker who ghosts or harms another worker by involving LE or Child and family services is a rat.......
we have applied pressure in all the ways listed below and police enforcement has eased up, they work with us now so i must disagree with give her to them remark, how selfish. we applied pressure and were not subjected to your feared public humiliation and raids etc. it was the exact opposite, conditions improved greatly.
also, i have been part of the sex worker rights movementy for 5 years...the "days of radicalism"or whatever you said are alive and well. just because you are a fatalist doesn't mean the rest of us are. just cause you don't take part....
this is the perfect chance to challenge the laws in winnipeg!don't be so damn negative! we have many supporters and can find legal assistance for nothing as well as alot of the work is done as far as preparing the case and i spoke to PIVOT who are willing to share everything they have.
you say it's illegal, but the laws are under review. while the supreme court of canada make it's decision it's not un reasonable to expect a moritorium on charges under these laws. taking it to manitoba's supreme court would allow a court to come to this conclusion. police here are not charging ny workers because they don't want to allow a window where this could happen.winnipeg police have opened that window and someone should go through it to put an end to WPD's taliban like behviour. what's next? public stonings?
media does have risks, as i stated originally in the escorts private lounge....
i really don't think customers are the focus of this investigation, so pooners don't worry.if you are a pooner and have been contacted by police and need help or advice please pm me
since you have chosen to out info from the escorts lounge here's what i said and i stand by it;
we can do a few things here;
we can do a press release through the canadian press corp who are our allies and would have the ability to film both supporters here and youse guys in winterpeg.
there are risks associated with being out in the press, it can really comprimise your life. however, since they have taken your children this may be a good tactic to have them returned to you faster.
we can call on our national allies to put pressure on from outside of the province, first-feminists for decrim(lots of political powerhouses on that committee)stella, maggies,spoc,BC Coaltion, national coaltion,the coop, everyone could write letters, phone the police/child and family services and demand answers....we make it so hard for them and apply so much pressure they have to submit and never want to go down this road again.
also, you should contact the manitoba civil liberites association as your human rights have been violated on so many levels i can't begin to describe....but most notably the assumption that you are a bad parent based on your occupation/political view that sex work should be decrim- this is clear cut discrimination- also your right to choose work over poverty.
also, you should call the police board- they will meet once a month- ask to be added to the agenda as a delegation- this will give you 5 minutues to speak- if a few of you go and each book as a delegation you can work it for more time- you should describe the impacts of these raids and the ways in which your rights have been violated as well as make sure to mention how you have been imapcted personally and finacially....
we went ot the police board here 5 times in one year to try to stop the raids on strip clubs so don't get discouraged and keep your chin up.
also, pivot here in BC tried to challenge the laws but were thrown out of court because no sex workers were actually charged with a crime- you may be able to open up that can of worms in manitoba now( the police will really regret their actions then)if you want to challenge the laws in manitoba i think you would have a good chance of winning. we have many law/ legal contacts- if you want to do it i can help you find a lawyer to help for free.
i would be happy to help....if you need me to...lol
also, although we are not officially an industry association we do not have to be a legal or incorporated entity and i'm sure everyone here would agree that you guys would qualitfy if the org existed. so why not say you are members and you know your rights. we could back you citing ethical business practices etc....
let me know whatever i can do....it's everything i can do to not start phoning thise assholes right now....i don't want to put you in further jeodardy though and will wait for you to tell me what i can do to support you.
for now the front runner for the name of the industry association is CAEC- Canadian Adult Entertainment Commission- tell them you are a member and know you have rights. try not to get mad, i can call them and give them the what for on behalf of the "CAEC"-smoke and mirrors ladies- that's what they do to us- they must be sex slaves- so we will raid them and rescue them....at gun point....and take their children....
i am so sorry and will do whatever it takes to stop this sensless medevil bullshit....fuckn moralistic fuck tards-(i like miss bijou's wording-it applies here for sure)
love susie
604-671-2345
i stand by this advice
any worker who ghosts or harms another worker by involving LE or Child and family services is a rat.......
we have applied pressure in all the ways listed below and police enforcement has eased up, they work with us now so i must disagree with give her to them remark, how selfish. we applied pressure and were not subjected to your feared public humiliation and raids etc. it was the exact opposite, conditions improved greatly.
also, i have been part of the sex worker rights movementy for 5 years...the "days of radicalism"or whatever you said are alive and well. just because you are a fatalist doesn't mean the rest of us are. just cause you don't take part....
this is the perfect chance to challenge the laws in winnipeg!don't be so damn negative! we have many supporters and can find legal assistance for nothing as well as alot of the work is done as far as preparing the case and i spoke to PIVOT who are willing to share everything they have.
you say it's illegal, but the laws are under review. while the supreme court of canada make it's decision it's not un reasonable to expect a moritorium on charges under these laws. taking it to manitoba's supreme court would allow a court to come to this conclusion. police here are not charging ny workers because they don't want to allow a window where this could happen.winnipeg police have opened that window and someone should go through it to put an end to WPD's taliban like behviour. what's next? public stonings?
media does have risks, as i stated originally in the escorts private lounge....
i really don't think customers are the focus of this investigation, so pooners don't worry.if you are a pooner and have been contacted by police and need help or advice please pm me
since you have chosen to out info from the escorts lounge here's what i said and i stand by it;
we can do a few things here;
we can do a press release through the canadian press corp who are our allies and would have the ability to film both supporters here and youse guys in winterpeg.
there are risks associated with being out in the press, it can really comprimise your life. however, since they have taken your children this may be a good tactic to have them returned to you faster.
we can call on our national allies to put pressure on from outside of the province, first-feminists for decrim(lots of political powerhouses on that committee)stella, maggies,spoc,BC Coaltion, national coaltion,the coop, everyone could write letters, phone the police/child and family services and demand answers....we make it so hard for them and apply so much pressure they have to submit and never want to go down this road again.
also, you should contact the manitoba civil liberites association as your human rights have been violated on so many levels i can't begin to describe....but most notably the assumption that you are a bad parent based on your occupation/political view that sex work should be decrim- this is clear cut discrimination- also your right to choose work over poverty.
also, you should call the police board- they will meet once a month- ask to be added to the agenda as a delegation- this will give you 5 minutues to speak- if a few of you go and each book as a delegation you can work it for more time- you should describe the impacts of these raids and the ways in which your rights have been violated as well as make sure to mention how you have been imapcted personally and finacially....
we went ot the police board here 5 times in one year to try to stop the raids on strip clubs so don't get discouraged and keep your chin up.
also, pivot here in BC tried to challenge the laws but were thrown out of court because no sex workers were actually charged with a crime- you may be able to open up that can of worms in manitoba now( the police will really regret their actions then)if you want to challenge the laws in manitoba i think you would have a good chance of winning. we have many law/ legal contacts- if you want to do it i can help you find a lawyer to help for free.
i would be happy to help....if you need me to...lol
also, although we are not officially an industry association we do not have to be a legal or incorporated entity and i'm sure everyone here would agree that you guys would qualitfy if the org existed. so why not say you are members and you know your rights. we could back you citing ethical business practices etc....
let me know whatever i can do....it's everything i can do to not start phoning thise assholes right now....i don't want to put you in further jeodardy though and will wait for you to tell me what i can do to support you.
for now the front runner for the name of the industry association is CAEC- Canadian Adult Entertainment Commission- tell them you are a member and know you have rights. try not to get mad, i can call them and give them the what for on behalf of the "CAEC"-smoke and mirrors ladies- that's what they do to us- they must be sex slaves- so we will raid them and rescue them....at gun point....and take their children....
i am so sorry and will do whatever it takes to stop this sensless medevil bullshit....fuckn moralistic fuck tards-(i like miss bijou's wording-it applies here for sure)
love susie
604-671-2345
i stand by this advice
The world needs more people like you Susi! Thanks for going out on the limb for our rights.are you kidding? symone are you saying you called the police?
any worker who ghosts or harms another worker by involving LE or Child and family services is a rat.......
we have applied pressure in all the ways listed below and police enforcement has eased up, they work with us now so i must disagree with give her to them remark, how selfish. we applied pressure and were not subjected to your feared public humiliation and raids etc. it was the exact opposite, conditions improved greatly.
also, i have been part of the sex worker rights movementy for 5 years...the "days of radicalism"or whatever you said are alive and well. just because you are a fatalist doesn't mean the rest of us are. just cause you don't take part....
this is the perfect chance to challenge the laws in winnipeg!don't be so damn negative! we have many supporters and can find legal assistance for nothing as well as alot of the work is done as far as preparing the case and i spoke to PIVOT who are willing to share everything they have.
you say it's illegal, but the laws are under review. while the supreme court of canada make it's decision it's not un reasonable to expect a moritorium on charges under these laws. taking it to manitoba's supreme court would allow a court to come to this conclusion. police here are not charging ny workers because they don't want to allow a window where this could happen.winnipeg police have opened that window and someone should go through it to put an end to WPD's taliban like behviour. what's next? public stonings?
media does have risks, as i stated originally in the escorts private lounge....
i really don't think customers are the focus of this investigation, so pooners don't worry.if you are a pooner and have been contacted by police and need help or advice please pm me
since you have chosen to out info from the escorts lounge here's what i said and i stand by it;
we can do a few things here;
we can do a press release through the canadian press corp who are our allies and would have the ability to film both supporters here and youse guys in winterpeg.
there are risks associated with being out in the press, it can really comprimise your life. however, since they have taken your children this may be a good tactic to have them returned to you faster.
we can call on our national allies to put pressure on from outside of the province, first-feminists for decrim(lots of political powerhouses on that committee)stella, maggies,spoc,BC Coaltion, national coaltion,the coop, everyone could write letters, phone the police/child and family services and demand answers....we make it so hard for them and apply so much pressure they have to submit and never want to go down this road again.
also, you should contact the manitoba civil liberites association as your human rights have been violated on so many levels i can't begin to describe....but most notably the assumption that you are a bad parent based on your occupation/political view that sex work should be decrim- this is clear cut discrimination- also your right to choose work over poverty.
also, you should call the police board- they will meet once a month- ask to be added to the agenda as a delegation- this will give you 5 minutues to speak- if a few of you go and each book as a delegation you can work it for more time- you should describe the impacts of these raids and the ways in which your rights have been violated as well as make sure to mention how you have been imapcted personally and finacially....
we went ot the police board here 5 times in one year to try to stop the raids on strip clubs so don't get discouraged and keep your chin up.
also, pivot here in BC tried to challenge the laws but were thrown out of court because no sex workers were actually charged with a crime- you may be able to open up that can of worms in manitoba now( the police will really regret their actions then)if you want to challenge the laws in manitoba i think you would have a good chance of winning. we have many law/ legal contacts- if you want to do it i can help you find a lawyer to help for free.
i would be happy to help....if you need me to...lol
also, although we are not officially an industry association we do not have to be a legal or incorporated entity and i'm sure everyone here would agree that you guys would qualitfy if the org existed. so why not say you are members and you know your rights. we could back you citing ethical business practices etc....
let me know whatever i can do....it's everything i can do to not start phoning thise assholes right now....i don't want to put you in further jeodardy though and will wait for you to tell me what i can do to support you.
for now the front runner for the name of the industry association is CAEC- Canadian Adult Entertainment Commission- tell them you are a member and know you have rights. try not to get mad, i can call them and give them the what for on behalf of the "CAEC"-smoke and mirrors ladies- that's what they do to us- they must be sex slaves- so we will raid them and rescue them....at gun point....and take their children....
i am so sorry and will do whatever it takes to stop this sensless medevil bullshit....fuckn moralistic fuck tards-(i like miss bijou's wording-it applies here for sure)
love susie
604-671-2345
i stand by this advice
Susi is a goddess, for sure.
Symone, your post outing personal info about the person under investigation while trying to claim some of her biz for yourself, should alert EVERYONE to just how indiscrete you are. They should run, not walk, away from you if this is what you post about other sps, what should they expect you will post about them. Isn't it true that you, in the past, outed personal info about clients before? Why would you use that, of all things, in a post where you state personal details about this other sp, to tell people how "safe" they should feel booking appts with you.
Your behaviour here is disgraceful, but hopefully your own posts have alerted many clients about you so they know to avoid you.
Symone, your post outing personal info about the person under investigation while trying to claim some of her biz for yourself, should alert EVERYONE to just how indiscrete you are. They should run, not walk, away from you if this is what you post about other sps, what should they expect you will post about them. Isn't it true that you, in the past, outed personal info about clients before? Why would you use that, of all things, in a post where you state personal details about this other sp, to tell people how "safe" they should feel booking appts with you.
Your behaviour here is disgraceful, but hopefully your own posts have alerted many clients about you so they know to avoid you.
Well said Susi! It's nice to see a positive attitude on this board. I'm sure with that kind of attitude and a little co operation between the girls, archaic out of date laws can be changed. The negativism of Symone will only hurt the movement and is only trying to further her agenda, whatever that might be. We have a choice to make , support those who are trying to change things or cower in the corners like frightened sheep! this reminds me of the old saying "when they came for my neighbor I said nothing, when they came for my friend I said nothing, when they came for my brother I said nothing, when they came for me there was nobody left to say anything" for me I will continue to support the co op and use it's services!
I as well agree.Symone's comments are very negative and her being in the business herself, wondering why she would talk all this negativity without actually knowing firsthand what will happen.
I hope for all the girls including Sydnee, everything works out.
I hope for all the girls including Sydnee, everything works out.
A couple of years ago, Symone had a web page. In a blog, she mocked one of her clients for the things he liked to do, in order to entertain her friends. She posted his real name, where he worked and other personal info. Granted, some of his desires were pretty weird, but she agreed to provide those services, and had no right to reveal his personal info.
Indeed!!
City woman fined $10,000 for operating a brothel
Article from:Winnipeg Free Press June 30, 2006|
A Winnipeg woman found guilty of running a brothel was fined $10,000 yesterday.
xxxxx xxxxxxxxxx was convicted after an undercover Winnipeg police investigation revealed that sex was being offered and implied by several of the young female models she hired.
xxxxxxxxxx, 47, was the owner/operator of Jessie's Lingerie Models.
Her lawyer, Sandy Chapman, asked the court to consider a discharge.
Would that discharge be a straight exchange for the $10,000? Surely the court could arrange for a "discharge" at a far lower fee at one of her surviving competitors...
10K? No jail time? Did she eventually "get off" of the fine???
Rubin
Sorry it took so long to post... sometimes my social life get's in the way of camping out on review boards
Susi you need to re-read my post. Then with these WHEALTHS of free time read up on this Sp and you will see all the information I has shared is ALREADY ON THE BOARDS in ALOT of threads, no long on here as that’s been deleted, so If I get banded anything about me goes to so VANGO ya Douche lol 'I'ma police informant- WHERE THE HELLS MY DAMN TAZZER THEN...ya douche Jesus christ
Susi at no time have I EVER said I am NOT down for making incalls Legal Like the first few sentences of my second post state I am Game-that's "hood" talk for I agree *giggle* Anyhow, I am sure every working women across Canada would love to see that change it would be an a-fuckn-mazing and even emotional for many of us(I AM REFFERING TO INCALLS WELL WORKING INDEPENDEDNTLY). But What is not okay and will not ever be okay is ANY PERSON making money off another working girl. That won't change. IF YOU SUCCEED AT CHANGING THAT LAW YOU WILL THEN MAKE EVERY PIMP ACROSS CANADA SAFE AND WITHIN THERE LEGAL RIGHT!!! Or is that the plan cause I am sure as hell not game then... did you think that far? At no time have you denied anything I have stated cause it's facts not just something I thought up YES it is the worse case sionerio and it can actually get nastier then that but I know that alone has put the Fear of god into everyone, ME TOO I’m getting anxiety every time I’m in the tub thinking I'm about to get my door kicked in. I can't walk around naked in my place no more cause God might be view That as an opportunity!!!
I hate having to talk my business out here on these boards for everyone to see (TO ANY VICE READING THIS I AM NOT GLOTTING I AM ATEMPTING TO MAKE A POINT) I was THE FIRST sp to post on the night the started stinging girls on outcalls here in Winnipeg. And in the lobby of the hotel less then 2 minutes after leaving the room I logged on to Perb while waiting for my ride and I posted. I was the Last one to get stung that night and I came forward first... I was the second SP to take it in front of a judge and the FIRST to WIN! The judge found in my favour- I am not gonna lie I didn't know what the hell was up I had been up for going on 30 hours freaking out cause it hit me that if I lose and continue to work that it is Contempt and I would be arrested for continuing to run any advertisements. Then when he's giving his explanation I had a god damn anxiety attack It is hard trying to distract yourself from one of those attacks counting doesn't do a damn thing!!! So anyways with that said... I am Down for making some changes but there are the right avenues to go down or you can take UNCALCULATED and stupid risks cause that always works out!!!!
It wasn't my intention to insult or offend anyone but here in Winnipeg this is not the time to try n view this situation threw rose colour glasses, Prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Everyone’s saying this is okay you'll be alright your not doing anything wrong... The judge want's facts and that sucks but that’s what he wants n it is what it is. Somehow Pimping is okay if your a women? As a feminist that would be going against the general concept...
I have watched enough Horatio Caine and the sunglasses of justice to know... this hooker... just got hooked!!! lol no...? hit n miss lol He would say something like that... but it would sound sooo slick *giggle*
As for the Outing a guy (HOW NEVER PAID ME-SO NOT A CLIENT) it boils down to this
1. I owe you no explanation UNLESS you are a paying client
2. You don't try threaten/blackmail a Hooker... or you'll get cut!! lol jokes
I have no info on any of my client if your number shows up you got that paper and your using your common sense we're Koo... I don't ask for a work number home address references left kidney or a picture... If your gonna go that far JUST to see a h**ker... lol hun your kinda asking for I mean come on... I may have gone to far with that I am sorry that was uncalled for... but come on Really??? ...like most guys thought this was illegal but they still provided that info... when you get your cush do u give you guy that info???? lol Drugs are from the devil
If a guys don't want to see me...
"mmmmm To tha left to tha left, i could have another a you by tommorow so don't you ever get to thinkin- YOUR IRRIPLACEABLE'' -Beyonce
...n there's my Q i'm out
we do support ethical business owners.....is every madame a pimp?seems like you just want to talk some smack.
you're perception is pretty jaded, we are an industry and it includes business owners...or did you not think that far ahead?
also, not only women do this work so you don't care about male and trans workers?this is not a women's issue, it is a worker issue, an industry issue
stop playing into the victim role and stand up for your rights. we are the only ones who can change our futures.
we want all the laws related to sex work struck down and a system of self governance put in place that we as an industry control, or don't you want to have rights and labour standards?
read the report "labour on the margins" at
http://www.wccsip.ca/doc/laborOnTheMargins.pdf
then comment on our plans, you responses clearly demonstrate you did not look into my back ground before making your comments.
our plan was designed in partnership sex industry workers- all genres all genders
you're perception is pretty jaded, we are an industry and it includes business owners...or did you not think that far ahead?
also, not only women do this work so you don't care about male and trans workers?this is not a women's issue, it is a worker issue, an industry issue
stop playing into the victim role and stand up for your rights. we are the only ones who can change our futures.
we want all the laws related to sex work struck down and a system of self governance put in place that we as an industry control, or don't you want to have rights and labour standards?
read the report "labour on the margins" at
http://www.wccsip.ca/doc/laborOnTheMargins.pdf
then comment on our plans, you responses clearly demonstrate you did not look into my back ground before making your comments.
our plan was designed in partnership sex industry workers- all genres all genders
I have watched this thread with great interest over the last few days and I think the point that is being missed is that the LE is being very active and Symone right or wrong has supplied that info, you rarely see SPs posting that they have been busted by the cops, and it's good to know when extra care should be taken in our extra curricular activities.
The second interesting part is on the whole reference thing, some have posted that this I exactly why they do it, but the fact is this SP has a reference system and it did not do a bit of good. I will not see an SP who wants that much info, there is way to much risk it will end up in the wrong hands, one recent event was an SP on another board who posted she lost control of her email account and was apologizing for any issues it may cause anyone if that information was used, scary. Also come on, this is not Hollywood, but one only has to think of the high profile cases, Heidi fleiss or Eliot spitzer to know the cops will use the information if they get their hands on it, and I donnot know about anyone else, but I would be out of a job if the morals unit showed up at work and if they showed up at home, I would be moving into a refigerator box lol.
The second interesting part is on the whole reference thing, some have posted that this I exactly why they do it, but the fact is this SP has a reference system and it did not do a bit of good. I will not see an SP who wants that much info, there is way to much risk it will end up in the wrong hands, one recent event was an SP on another board who posted she lost control of her email account and was apologizing for any issues it may cause anyone if that information was used, scary. Also come on, this is not Hollywood, but one only has to think of the high profile cases, Heidi fleiss or Eliot spitzer to know the cops will use the information if they get their hands on it, and I donnot know about anyone else, but I would be out of a job if the morals unit showed up at work and if they showed up at home, I would be moving into a refigerator box lol.
The reference system did what it was supposed to do, which is stopping an undercover from "infiltrating" and pulling off a sting. This was a different event altogether, a "raid" as it were. No reference system can police against that, the cops can bust down aqnyone's door if they have probable cause, which they must defend in open court later. All the facts are still not out as to what happened that day, or what exactly the cops were after, but I really don't think the "Def Con 4" alerts that went out were necessary, especially for the independent ladies out there.
This "hobby" as the pooners refer to it, or "industry" as it is to the ladies, really has a stigmata attached to it. In a healthy society, with healthy respect for people and thier rights to persue happiness in whatever form that comes (as long as is does not infringe on anyone elses right to their happiness), there can be a healthy sex trade.
But, like illicit drugs, the further you criminalize it, the further it goes underground, and the more lucrative it becomes for criminal elements to become involved. How many pimps would be in business if you could buy your fix at the local co-op brothel? How many street walkers would exist? There may be a few, because they do not qualify for "safe" houses due to disease, and they'd still have customers who seek danger... but that would be the exception, not the rule.
The sex trade will not go away, the worlds oldest profession exists for a reason. Sydnee had the right idea with her co-op, I don't know the inner workings and finance, but it seemed like the girls were happy, and the clients were happy. And isn't that what were aspiring to?
Rubin
This "hobby" as the pooners refer to it, or "industry" as it is to the ladies, really has a stigmata attached to it. In a healthy society, with healthy respect for people and thier rights to persue happiness in whatever form that comes (as long as is does not infringe on anyone elses right to their happiness), there can be a healthy sex trade.
But, like illicit drugs, the further you criminalize it, the further it goes underground, and the more lucrative it becomes for criminal elements to become involved. How many pimps would be in business if you could buy your fix at the local co-op brothel? How many street walkers would exist? There may be a few, because they do not qualify for "safe" houses due to disease, and they'd still have customers who seek danger... but that would be the exception, not the rule.
The sex trade will not go away, the worlds oldest profession exists for a reason. Sydnee had the right idea with her co-op, I don't know the inner workings and finance, but it seemed like the girls were happy, and the clients were happy. And isn't that what were aspiring to?
Rubin
Well said! Sydnee is a forward thinker and is trying to help the "industry". She made sure the girls and clients were safe and that is an issue sometimes. I appauld her and her efforts.
Interesting initial post...
We're going to let this post stand for the time being, as it is one person's opinion.
Readers are cautioned though, that this is a newly registered, first time poster. He/she clearly "appears" to have joined the site for the specific purpose of posting their support and giving an opinion.
We're going to let this post stand for the time being, as it is one person's opinion.
Readers are cautioned though, that this is a newly registered, first time poster. He/she clearly "appears" to have joined the site for the specific purpose of posting their support and giving an opinion.
Hello Winnipeg
I posted the following in the Vancouver Lounge before I found this thread. It might have been better here after I had read this thread but here it is anyway.
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Lets say for arguments sake that the Winnipeg Chief of Police sees a campaign against prostitution as a way of getting more money for his budget.
Lets say for arguments sake that there are some Winnipeg city councilors who see a campaign against prostitution as a way of buying votes from simple minded right wing voters.
These people can use the plight of aboriginal women and the problem of child abuse to justify anything they do. This is a threat to SPs across Canada because if it works in Winnipeg, it can work in any other city. It could work in Winnipeg because they are targeting a group of people, SPs, who generally can't stand up in public and challenge the sleazy bastards spouting lies and distortions.
I have a suggestion. SPs across Canada who care could make a donation to the BCCEC or some other trusted group and that group could hire an activist or lawyer in Winnipeg to challenge any sleazy self serving agenda, comments or actions that threaten SPs in Winnipeg or across Canada.
If you can shut it down in Winnipeg then the actors in other cities will be less likely to cause trouble. If they get away with it in Winnipeg then you could be screwed where you live, in Vancouver or anywhere else.
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As for the security of records, some techy info.
E-mail can be secured with public key encryption. I am not up to date on the details but anyone can add it to their e-mail software and it will be profoundly difficult for anyone to get at the messages.
Some hard drives can be set to store everything in an encrypted format determined by a key that is stored in the drive. A single command can instantly erase that key rendering all the data on the drive completely meaningless. The data on the drive is unaffected and it take a lot of time to reliably erase the data but without the correct key in the drive the data is meaningless. It should be possible to booby trap a computer so that unauthorized access destroys the info on the drives.
There would be a learning curve associated with either technology but they could be something that the national association could support and encourage.
I posted the following in the Vancouver Lounge before I found this thread. It might have been better here after I had read this thread but here it is anyway.
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Lets say for arguments sake that the Winnipeg Chief of Police sees a campaign against prostitution as a way of getting more money for his budget.
Lets say for arguments sake that there are some Winnipeg city councilors who see a campaign against prostitution as a way of buying votes from simple minded right wing voters.
These people can use the plight of aboriginal women and the problem of child abuse to justify anything they do. This is a threat to SPs across Canada because if it works in Winnipeg, it can work in any other city. It could work in Winnipeg because they are targeting a group of people, SPs, who generally can't stand up in public and challenge the sleazy bastards spouting lies and distortions.
I have a suggestion. SPs across Canada who care could make a donation to the BCCEC or some other trusted group and that group could hire an activist or lawyer in Winnipeg to challenge any sleazy self serving agenda, comments or actions that threaten SPs in Winnipeg or across Canada.
If you can shut it down in Winnipeg then the actors in other cities will be less likely to cause trouble. If they get away with it in Winnipeg then you could be screwed where you live, in Vancouver or anywhere else.
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As for the security of records, some techy info.
E-mail can be secured with public key encryption. I am not up to date on the details but anyone can add it to their e-mail software and it will be profoundly difficult for anyone to get at the messages.
Some hard drives can be set to store everything in an encrypted format determined by a key that is stored in the drive. A single command can instantly erase that key rendering all the data on the drive completely meaningless. The data on the drive is unaffected and it take a lot of time to reliably erase the data but without the correct key in the drive the data is meaningless. It should be possible to booby trap a computer so that unauthorized access destroys the info on the drives.
There would be a learning curve associated with either technology but they could be something that the national association could support and encourage.
