Asian Fever

Khalif Mitchell - BC Lions

Ben Ludwig

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Thanks, means a lot coming from you.

I am glad you have accepted what I have wrote in this thread. You can't really deny any of it.
And please don't give me the BS that you don't want to bother responding, as everyone knows you live on perb.

I don't know how far I'll get but as long as I don't grow up to be an ignorant racist like you, I'll be just fine.
 

wii49

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How do you know that he is the minority? I agree with badbadboy, everyone is a little culturally insensitive to some degree. The masses of Chinese people getting upset by some guy they never heard of before yesterday is a bit ridiculous to me. If he was directing his comment at one guy, then I could understand the reaction.
Just so we're clear, Hoff, "minority" refers to less than half. Understand?
I believe that people like you and Badger, who feel it is okay for a professional athlete to tweet a racist slur, are in the minority.
The fact that you call people getting upset "ridiculous" shows how narrow minded you are.

How is it any less worse that he directed a racist slur towards the masses, instead of toward one individual?
Gonna brace myself for another stupid nonsensical answer.
 

myselftheother

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What makes me laugh is that Ben is arguing the same point as Badge is...Mitchell said he was sorry, got suspended for a game....really a minor thing. What gets me is the way Ben is trolling and dramatizing Badge's posts, while on the same side of the arguement....calling names and being ridiculously indignant...

Thanks for the entertainment. BTW...I feel that Mitchell fucked up, posted something stupid, paid the price...done. What more can be done? Nothing.
 

myselftheother

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Badger, simply put, there's no point defending Khalif, he's brought this all on himself and is an embarrassment to the BC Lions organization. Again, this isn't his first bonehead action of the year....far from it. So he isn't being judged on this one incident, it's his entire body of work.

In conslusion, I'd say you are way off base in your defence of Khalif. :nod:
Agreed a well...Mitchell's not been exactly the posterboy for being smart this season, and does get what he deserves, but to continue to rant and rave, wringing of hands and knashing (?) of teeth, and tearing out hair....doubt he's going to be on the team next year, but I'm sure he'll be picked up fast. Maybe TO or Winnepeg could use him.
 

myselftheother

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I think that most people would agree that Mitchell was wrong to use that term. Being a professional athlete puts you in the public eye and like it or not, you have to guide yourself accordingly.

I agree that many (if not all) people are culturally insensitive to some degree. However, that doesn't mean we should excuse someone for tweeting out a racist slur.

Also, I don't really see how directing his slur to the masses makes it not as bad.

Now I'm not saying throw the book at him, but IMO a small fine and a sitting out one game is the right message to send.
I know you're stalking Hoff...but I agree with your post. Saying it over a beer with close friends or in private, though still wrong is one thing, but to publicly tweet it out there...lesson learned, eh?
 

wii49

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What makes me laugh is that Ben is arguing the same point as Badge is...Mitchell said he was sorry, got suspended for a game....really a minor thing. What gets me is the way Ben is trolling and dramatizing Badge's posts, while on the same side of the arguement....calling names and being ridiculously indignant...

Thanks for the entertainment. BTW...I feel that Mitchell fucked up, posted something stupid, paid the price...done. What more can be done? Nothing.
Yes Badger changed his tune. If you could read, you would have picked that up. At first he minimized the racial slur and basically said no big deal.
 

Boneman

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His Racial Slurs (plural) so what exactly are you saying.. That Kalif is a racist because he made one remark. I guess your so pure of heart throwing the first stone comes natural. We are all guilty of it one way or another. and if you deny it I'd say your a liar. East indian guy cuts you off in traffic I'll bet the first words out of your mouth are so cordial.

So What would you rather see happen?/ Suspended? Fired? Released? Never play football again? Baliff SMACK his PEEPEE!

Should all Asians stop going to BC lions games. Should there be a boycott of Vancouver by the asian population?

What would you rather see happen Boneman?

What he said was stupid yes, so nothing he can do can change that. Only thing he can do is own it and apologize for it. Which HE HAS DONE! Maybe get fined by the league for it but thats it. It's not like he spat on another player or fan and hurled derogatory racial slurs at them while being restrained by his team mates. He wrote something on his twitter account. The political correctness police are taking this way way to far.

The import tackle, a keen follower of U.S. politics, responded to a question about Tuesday’s presidential debate, using a racial slur when asked which candidate was the winner.

“Both of them hide money with the Ch**ks,” he wrote.

MITCHELL APOLOGIZES

The league fined Mitchell, who majored in communications at East Carolina, for violating the league’s social media policy.

The remark was deleted from his account, and an apology was quickly issued, marking the first time Mitchell had shown public contrition for anything he has done or said this season.

“I want to apologize. I made a comment. It wasn’t right,” Mitchell said in a 40-second meeting with reporters after practice Wednesday, taking no questions after he left the workout early to meet with Buono and Skulsky.


That should be the fucking end of it.

No different is a white guy or a Chinese guy dropped the N-bomb (and it's happened on national TV, and in media,) Mel Gibson going off on the Jews, Michael Richards (cramer) went postal as well.. OMG I said went postal that might offend some postal workers out there..
The only thing I have to say in response to this rant is that a "keen follower of US politics" wouldn't be accusing both candidates of hiding their money in China and then using a racial slur to describe the Chinese people.
 

Boneman

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First off where do you get off with the constant stream of getting personal.. Drama queen? yet again Dude GROW UP!

But no once again the ever loyal Ben Ludwig to Boneman's aid and defense (not the first time or even the second time) what do you have a man crush on the dude? Close personal Friend? WTF..:fear:


WTF Dude I asked Boneman a simple Question after he asked me a question that I replied to.

What does he think is a fitting puniwshment? Kalif realized his mistake apologized, took it down and got fined by the league.

Too everyone else It's not like I'm defending his actions sure Kalif Mitchell comes off as being a douche more times than one.

I get that "It's his body of work" He's paid a salary to hit people and play on the edge. It's not a nice, nice preschool game.

However When guys go outside the scope of the rules they get fined and suspended. It happens all the time.


Stupid thing is you slam me for my comment, :confused: then you agree with (what I said exactly) in the next Fking sentence.. Nice Job... :clap2:
Sorry I missed the hidden question in the rant. The punishment should fit the crime. I don't think the fine and suspension were enough. He should be sentenced to being your roommate for a month. Minimum.
 

Boneman

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So you missed: clear as day?

So What would you rather see happen?/ Suspended? Fired? Released? Never play football again? Baliff SMACK his PEEPEE!

Should all Asians stop going to BC lions games. Should there be a boycott of Vancouver by the asian population?

What would you rather see happen Boneman?
As I said. He should have a sentence as your roommate for at least a month
 

Boneman

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What would that teach him??

Thats not an answer that's just a typical glib response.

you say "The punishment should fit the crime. I don't think the fine and suspension were enough?"

What then should his penalty be for using the word he used Chink (A word that is derogatory to people of Chinese decent)

What punishment fits the crime in your opinion.

What would you rather see happen?/ Suspended? Fired? Released? Never play football again?

Should all Asians stop going to BC lions games, boycott of the Lions by the south Asian population?



The Word Chink . where it came from? and why it's now a derogatory term? what is it's etymology

Although some of these suggestions are that it originated from the Chinese courtesy ching-ching, or that the word evolved from the other meaning of chink, which is a small crevice, being a simile for small or slanted eyes (Sometimes, the word is indeed employed as an adjective, as in chink-eyed)., these explanations are referring to obscure points which would require strong proof .. such as the evidence of the first use of the word. That is, the lack of evidence of these constitute a strong (but not perfect) disproof.

The most obvious etymology is chink evolved from the Indo-Iranian word for China ...that word now having various but similar pronunciations in various European languages, such as Iranian. And that the Indo-Iranian and hence European name for China is an alteration of the chinese name Qin, which has reccurred in Chinese history a number of times , including the name of the Western kingdom , which took over the rest to form the first Empire.This was the first time the name had been seen, and now it is a very common family name in China and Vietnam (Cheng, Trinh, and similar). Because it is a very common family name, it is impossible to trace it back to any specific time place or person, and the lack of evidence for the coining of the term in English (or European language) is therefore not unusual. It is possible that word was imported into Indo-European as the name of the Qin state.

The word "Chinky" has its origins in the Indian reference to Chinese people. Since the times of the Mauryan Dynasty, there was continual contact between India and China. In the North Indian languages, China is referred to as Cheen and her people with the suffix ke-log, therefore becoming cheen-ke-log literally translated people of/from China. Chronologically the word was popularly shortened to cheen-ke and meant anything of/from China (usually but not limited to people). But, with the subsequent English colonization of India, one can speculate that the Indian word cheen-ke was adopted by Englishmen who developed their own connotations for the word.

"Chink"'s first usage is recorded from about 1890 but "chinky" had first appeared in print, as far as can be ascertained, in 1878. Chinky is still used in Britain as a nickname for Chinese food.

Around the turn of the 20th century, Chinese immigration was perceived as a threat to the living standards of whites in North America and other similar nations. The Chinese were seen as invasive, and this mounting xenophobia culminated in Yellow Peril hysteria. In the United States, the Chinese Exclusion Act was passed, banning Chinese immigration, within a few years after the first recorded use of chink. The dehumanizing use of the word is argued by one author to be a racist justifier for the passage of the Exclusion Act.

However, a persistent labor shortage on the west coast meant that Chinese workers were still needed there. Alaskan fish canneries were so short of workers, too, that appeals were submitted to Congress to amend the Exclusion Act. Chinese butcher crews were held in such high esteem that when Edmund A. Smith patented his mechanized fish-butchering machine in 1905, he named it the Iron Chink, which is seen by some as symbolic of anti-Chinese racism during the era. Usage of the word continued, such as with the story "The Chink and the Child" by Thomas Burke, later adapted to film by D.W. Griffith. Griffith altered the story to be more racially sensitive and renamed it to Broken Blossoms.

Although chink originally referred only to those appearing to be of Chinese descent, the meaning expanded sometime in the 1940s to include other people of East Asian descent. During the Korean War and Vietnam War, the word was frequently used to refer to Korean and Vietnamese soldiers, with numerous examples of news reports attesting to this.
Do you seriously expect anyone to believe this is original work Badge? Why don't you give credit to your sources?
 

wii49

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Two guys on the TSN panel said they would cut him right away. Another said he would try to trade him in the offseason.
Hope this doesn't cause a distraction as they are poised to repeat as champs.
 

wii49

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Well some players don't care what anyone thinks but I would think at least some, if not most players, care at least a little bit about their public image which is largely formed by how they are represented in the media.

A few players seem unhappy about Mitchell as well (I think Ryan Philips was one). Surprised as teammates usually don't say anything negative about each other in the media.
 

Boneman

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The import tackle, a keen follower of U.S. politics, responded to a question about Tuesday’s presidential debate, using a racial slur when asked which candidate was the winner
I'm curious. Did you write this or did you plagiarize it?
 

Boneman

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I'm curious. Did you write this or did you plagiarize it?
Come on Badge. Where are the obvious clues I should have picked up on to realize you weren't plagiarizing again? Why would you take a direct quote from a Province sports writer and claim it as your own?
 
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