Katie will be finishing her exams this week and back full time for the summer under the name Jamie. I saw her on Saturday and she's as good as ever, maybe a little tired from school but otherwise not much has changed (except her Broadways name).
Katie is back at Broadways
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Hate to break it to you bro but our lovely young Katie is not tired from school, she hasn't gone to school in two years. She is tired because she is more strung out than ever. I hate to say that because I like her and wish she was doing well, but she's not. She's back at broadways because she can't advertise or keep a phone turned on. She owes a lot of money and is still with the same pimp/boyfriend she has always been with. I probably shouldn't post this but I feel I have to say that if you are going to see Katie, see her at broadways, not at her place or anywhere else. Do not pick her up or drop her off anywhere. And if you're seeing her you are enabling a horrible drug addiction that has all but ruined that young girls' life. Not judging any of you, I have done it worse than most anyone. But after spending time with her recently and seeing how she really is living I can't do it any more. No matter how amazing she makes me feel when I see her.
I'm sorry for recommending her to people recently... I mean, anyone who saw her had amazing sex with a gorgeous woman so there's that, but getting involved with her and those people is not exactly the safest or smartest thing to do.
I just hope she bottoms out soon and it isn't too bad, and that she will pull herself together and gets away from the gang members and the crack houses she hangs out at. Everyone who has talked with her for a while knows she could be an amazing success in this industry or most others, but right now she doesn't seem to want to change anything and is living like a complete junkie. I can't imagine her hour or multi hour long sessions are going to be fantastic. If you can handle buying a 21 year old and her pimp their evening fix then see her at broadways, she is nearly perfect looking as always and is still one of the most talented SPs around no doubt. Hopefully she'll have better luck at Broadways this time, a lot of the other girls there hate her for whatever reason (jealousy I'm guessing, who wouldn't pick Katie from a lineup) so she stopped working there. Then there was the dealer who hangs around broadways assaulting her for owing money, that was a bad bruise.
I really wish her all the best, I hope to hear a totally different story about her in a year. But after recommending her to people and posting positive things about her here, I have to tell you guys what I saw and experienced after I began spending time with her outside sessions. I know her voice and beauty make it nearly impossible to not believe everything that comes out of her mouth, but it's almost all fantasy trust me. She is not in school, she is not doing well, she is not off drugs. She leaves her apartment for sessions and to get drugs or smokes, rarely anything else. She doesn't even walk her dog most days, it shits on the floor. It's tragic to see, she is an extremely beautiful person, not just physically. It took a long time before I could convince myself that there wasn't anything I could do to help her... but there isn't because she doesn't want my or anyone else's help. She has provided light in my life and probably done the same with hundreds of other men (and women), it's too bad she doesn't see what kind of life she could be living.
The cause of a lot of the problems SPs like Katie get into is really rooted in the way our city treats them. At least the way it escalates and becomes nearly impossible to escape. They can work at the few shady massage parlours with basically in house coke/crack dealers where they have to fuck the owners, they can be independant and do outcalls only, which limits business and is generally more dangerous, or they can walk the street like the most desperate, alone, and impoverished young women among us are forced to do. Try to set up a safe incall, or better yet a decent, respectable massage parlou or safe co-op house, and the cops will spend tens of thousands investigating, shutting them down, and prosecuting them.
I am sure we all know the story of one of the most respected, brave, honest, and loved SPs Winnipeg has ever seen. For those who don't know she cared even more about being a strong an advocate for safe conditions for sex workers than she did about even her own career. She knew everyone in the business and when she started to see a crop of ambitious young women getting into the business, without the proper training and knowledge to be safe, she set up her house for all of them to use and made sure they were all properly screening, paying taxes, and most of all having a safe place to work. For her trouble the WPD "morals unit" stalked/spied on her and her family for months, harrassed and arrested clients, and arrested all of the SPs they could find. CFS, social workers for christ sake, took her 13 year old daughter away without a guilty verdict or court order, and still have her now, over a year later! IDespite the fact that she was never exposed to anything, extremely well cared for, and thought her mother read tarrot cards until the pigs told her she was a prostitute. Imagine that, a close family torn apart because the mother is a responsible sex trade worker, by something called the fucking morals unit. My tax dollars pay for that? What is moral about trying to destroy a family to justify your budget? It's an absolute disgrace, people should be completely up in arms about that case, but even more about the way these young women are forced into the street, the few massage parlours (only a tiny % make the cut), and into the hands of pimps, gangs, and dealers. It's easy to say that these girls bring it on themselves but they don't. Many of them have no family around, no support system or true friends, and frankly are desperate and scared. If we had a reasonable apporach to solving this problem, for example a red light district where women can work in rooms with security/police nearby, manditoy STD tests, etc etc, we would see a lot less missing, mostly first nations, teenagers on the front page. They print the names once a year so they can say they are helping, but this city shouldn't be talking about much else while thousands of young women are forced into awful, often live threatening conditions we would criticize if we saw similar scenes in a foreign country we don't really like. All because of some bullshit Christian idea of morality that no one actually takes seriously? Shameful. This city is a hellhole, and this is the biggest reason. Our top politicians and cops are so fucking corrupt there is little chance of any of it changing any time soon. We can only pray for federal mandates and/or supreme court rulings.
I'm sorry for recommending her to people recently... I mean, anyone who saw her had amazing sex with a gorgeous woman so there's that, but getting involved with her and those people is not exactly the safest or smartest thing to do.
I just hope she bottoms out soon and it isn't too bad, and that she will pull herself together and gets away from the gang members and the crack houses she hangs out at. Everyone who has talked with her for a while knows she could be an amazing success in this industry or most others, but right now she doesn't seem to want to change anything and is living like a complete junkie. I can't imagine her hour or multi hour long sessions are going to be fantastic. If you can handle buying a 21 year old and her pimp their evening fix then see her at broadways, she is nearly perfect looking as always and is still one of the most talented SPs around no doubt. Hopefully she'll have better luck at Broadways this time, a lot of the other girls there hate her for whatever reason (jealousy I'm guessing, who wouldn't pick Katie from a lineup) so she stopped working there. Then there was the dealer who hangs around broadways assaulting her for owing money, that was a bad bruise.
I really wish her all the best, I hope to hear a totally different story about her in a year. But after recommending her to people and posting positive things about her here, I have to tell you guys what I saw and experienced after I began spending time with her outside sessions. I know her voice and beauty make it nearly impossible to not believe everything that comes out of her mouth, but it's almost all fantasy trust me. She is not in school, she is not doing well, she is not off drugs. She leaves her apartment for sessions and to get drugs or smokes, rarely anything else. She doesn't even walk her dog most days, it shits on the floor. It's tragic to see, she is an extremely beautiful person, not just physically. It took a long time before I could convince myself that there wasn't anything I could do to help her... but there isn't because she doesn't want my or anyone else's help. She has provided light in my life and probably done the same with hundreds of other men (and women), it's too bad she doesn't see what kind of life she could be living.
The cause of a lot of the problems SPs like Katie get into is really rooted in the way our city treats them. At least the way it escalates and becomes nearly impossible to escape. They can work at the few shady massage parlours with basically in house coke/crack dealers where they have to fuck the owners, they can be independant and do outcalls only, which limits business and is generally more dangerous, or they can walk the street like the most desperate, alone, and impoverished young women among us are forced to do. Try to set up a safe incall, or better yet a decent, respectable massage parlou or safe co-op house, and the cops will spend tens of thousands investigating, shutting them down, and prosecuting them.
I am sure we all know the story of one of the most respected, brave, honest, and loved SPs Winnipeg has ever seen. For those who don't know she cared even more about being a strong an advocate for safe conditions for sex workers than she did about even her own career. She knew everyone in the business and when she started to see a crop of ambitious young women getting into the business, without the proper training and knowledge to be safe, she set up her house for all of them to use and made sure they were all properly screening, paying taxes, and most of all having a safe place to work. For her trouble the WPD "morals unit" stalked/spied on her and her family for months, harrassed and arrested clients, and arrested all of the SPs they could find. CFS, social workers for christ sake, took her 13 year old daughter away without a guilty verdict or court order, and still have her now, over a year later! IDespite the fact that she was never exposed to anything, extremely well cared for, and thought her mother read tarrot cards until the pigs told her she was a prostitute. Imagine that, a close family torn apart because the mother is a responsible sex trade worker, by something called the fucking morals unit. My tax dollars pay for that? What is moral about trying to destroy a family to justify your budget? It's an absolute disgrace, people should be completely up in arms about that case, but even more about the way these young women are forced into the street, the few massage parlours (only a tiny % make the cut), and into the hands of pimps, gangs, and dealers. It's easy to say that these girls bring it on themselves but they don't. Many of them have no family around, no support system or true friends, and frankly are desperate and scared. If we had a reasonable apporach to solving this problem, for example a red light district where women can work in rooms with security/police nearby, manditoy STD tests, etc etc, we would see a lot less missing, mostly first nations, teenagers on the front page. They print the names once a year so they can say they are helping, but this city shouldn't be talking about much else while thousands of young women are forced into awful, often live threatening conditions we would criticize if we saw similar scenes in a foreign country we don't really like. All because of some bullshit Christian idea of morality that no one actually takes seriously? Shameful. This city is a hellhole, and this is the biggest reason. Our top politicians and cops are so fucking corrupt there is little chance of any of it changing any time soon. We can only pray for federal mandates and/or supreme court rulings.
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I believe you are absolutely right about your views and a very well written comment. I kinda knew this shit was happening with Katie and a lot of other young ladies. Some I'm quite familliar with. There's not much we can do but watch and hope they will be ok and be there for them when they have finally bottomed out, to help and support them in their recovery when they are ready.
There's only so much help you can do for SP's that have gone down the wrong path.I believe you are absolutely right about your views and a very well written comment. I kinda knew this shit was happening with Katie and a lot of other young ladies. Some I'm quite familliar with. There's not much we can do but watch and hope they will be ok and be there for them when they have finally bottomed out, to help and support them in their recovery when they are ready.
In the year's of dancing and SP'ing I've only read, cause I don't know the messed up one's. It will take them year's to be ready. At that age it's all a big party, screw the rent, the cell. They have the thought I have have a hot B/F/Pimp, I'll do whatever it takes to make him happy.
I have watched time and time again guy's helping girl's. Your called care giver's. There is no rescueing, there is no future relationship. They will take you and fuck you in a way that isn't pleasant.
They have to hit complete rock bottom and then dig themselve's out of that hole. Helping only enable's them to continue. It's nice that everyone thinks that theres an SP out there that need rescuing,
just keep in mind your enabling her and her partner in crime to continue.
I might be babbling but I've seen it happen most of my adult life.
Let her dig herself out of this one. I have no ill will towards her either. Never met her. But with all the report's and now this. Come on guy's, seriously when you all gonna wake up?
Mr Nice Guy said it best and in a nice respectful way as well. We are so focused on Katie but what about the Brothel Bust? Anyone running to the aid of that.
That was a mother taking care of her family and working. But she got shunned. She's no longer part of the clique, or society it seems at this rate.
If this happened to Katie would you all be running to Katie's aid? Both offer the same service.
They offer you a fantasy. No strings attached. Excellent deal? But no it was all negegative when it came to the bust and a household torn apart.
Katie on the other hand has no children, nothing to really lose if she's lying about school and is strung out.
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So JustaGuy what do you have to say regarding Nice Guy post, maybe now I will not receive any other PM about how she is misunderstood and a victum
Let me refresh your apparently faulty memory about that PM, okay? I did not say she was misunderstood. I accused YOU of spreading unsubstantiated rumors about Katie. When the actual person who was robbed at knifepoint by her ... not merely a friend of a friend of a guy my sister knew in third grade's second cousin's mailman or someone similarly five times removed from the facts of the alleged incident ... comes forth and says that he was robbed by her. it might lend some credence to the story. Until that happens, it's nothing more than "I heard that ..." and I believe in a court case, that's referred to as hearsay evidence. You don't know that Katie robbed someone, you know that someone said Katie robbed someone. That makes her a victim (not victum) of rumor and innuendo which is precisely what I said to you in my PM.So JustaGuy what do you have to say regarding Nice Guy post, maybe now I will not receive any other PM about how she is misunderstood and a victum
As for Mr_Nice_guy, the person he describes is not the Katie I know. I'm not refuting what he says because I don't know if it's true or not. What I do know is that my experience with Katie is not even remotely like what he describes.
So what you are saying is you really don't know her, and she really could have taken part it what you just described as her been part of a robbery. I have never stated her name in any of my posts that Katie was involved in any thing illegal. I will take that as an apology, I just don't want to recieve any further PM'sLet me refresh your apparently faulty memory about that PM, okay? I did not say she was misunderstood. I accused YOU of spreading unsubstantiated rumors about Katie. When the actual person who was robbed at knifepoint by her ... not merely a friend of a friend of a guy my sister knew in third grade's second cousin's mailman or someone similarly five times removed from the facts of the alleged incident ... comes forth and says that he was robbed by her. it might lend some credence to the story. Until that happens, it's nothing more than "I heard that ..." and I believe in a court case, that's referred to as hearsay evidence. You don't know that Katie robbed someone, you know that someone said Katie robbed someone. That makes her a victim (not victum) of rumor and innuendo which is precisely what I said to you in my PM.
As for Mr_Nice_guy, the person he describes is not the Katie I know. I'm not refuting what he says because I don't know if it's true or not. What I do know is that my experience with Katie is not even remotely like what he describes.
JustAGuy, it's not the Katie I thought I knew when I just saw her for an hour or two a week. She is great at putting on a show and making guys like us believe it. She lies so well it is very hard to tell.
this is getting confusing!! Who lies so much? Which Katie?JustAGuy, it's not the Katie I thought I knew when I just saw her for an hour or two a week. She is great at putting on a show and making guys like us believe it. She lies so well it is very hard to tell.
There is more than one katie advertising so it becomes confusing. The katie we all knew at Broadways at that time was amazing!!! in every aspect!
Wouild have seen her when she was independent but sh sounded out of it on the phone a few times ...so what do you do in that case? Feeling of helplessness cuz you can't help.
The non-Broadway Katie is not a bad person, has a pleasant personality - goes under a number of diff names, but not as popular.
So, who lies so much? Maybe you mean the Broadway Katie has/had a personality change? Hoping she straightens out her life!
Talking about the Katie from broadways, called herself Katie Summers on EC and is now Jamie at broadways. The gorgeous tall blond with the great personality and incredibly sweet voice. She is totally amazing in sessions, nothing has changed about that or her personality. I just got to know her outside sessions and she has serious personal problems and almost everything she says about herself in sessions is a lie. She hangs out with very dangerous people and is constantly high on coke or crack or prescription drugs or all three. I mean I like to party as much as the next guy, but she is long past that. It's disgusting, and sad because I think she is a good person inside. Hangs out at north end crack houses and has a drug addict gang member pimp/boyfriend. And i know now that she did set up the robbery everyone talked about last fall. I'm really sorry to everyone who read my posts doubting that or recommending her. But for people who can live with those things and are able to have her actually keep a booking, I'm sure they'll have an amazing time with her as I always did. If you're going to do it, do it at broadways, don't go to her place or let her find out where you live. People are always looking for her or her boyfriend and god knows what she might do if she finds out you have nice things they could pawn.
You're right though there is nothing anyone can do to help someone who doesn't want help. I also hope she straitens out before she winds up od'ing or worse.
You're right though there is nothing anyone can do to help someone who doesn't want help. I also hope she straitens out before she winds up od'ing or worse.
this is getting confusing!! Who lies so much? Which Katie?
There is more than one katie advertising so it becomes confusing. The katie we all knew at Broadways at that time was amazing!!! in every aspect!
Wouild have seen her when she was independent but sh sounded out of it on the phone a few times ...so what do you do in that case? Feeling of helplessness cuz you can't help.
The non-Broadway Katie is not a bad person, has a pleasant personality - goes under a number of diff names, but not as popular.
So, who lies so much? Maybe you mean the Broadway Katie has/had a personality change? Hoping she straightens out her life!
Oh, I think we all know who is being talked about here. And so do you Sixpac. Some people like me and I guess you are fooled into trusting someone that we shouldn't and get taken advantage of big time but don't want to admit it.
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