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Krustee

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Well it's bad enough that we had 3.6 million job losses last year & 626,000 new unemployment claims just last month, now we have more unsettling news.

The unemployment benefits for those who have filed claims is running out of state funding.

The UI program is buckling under the weight of so many jobless claimants!

Unemployment benefits safety net is fraying

As payments dry up, almost half of the 11.6 million jobless don’t receive help


Paula Stein's $363 weekly benefits ran out last month. The former office manager from Goochland, Va., who missed several mortgage payments even before her benefits ended, has had to drain her savings and lean on her partner's $124-a-week unemployment check to help make ends meet.

WASHINGTON - The government safety net designed to protect laid-off workers from financial catastrophe is falling short, leaving nearly half the 11.6 million jobless Americans without unemployment benefits.

The shortcomings are fueling the recession as an increasing number of workers fall through the cracks and curtail spending. The trend highlights what economists say is a growing need for a 21st century makeover of a program started in the depths of the Great Depression.

Among the key problem areas:
  • There are many more part-time workers now than in 1935, but the program only covers those looking for full-time work.
  • Many eligible jobless Americans are shut out because states use an outdated system for calculating their income, making it more difficult to meet requirements.
  • Unemployment spells increasingly last longer than the usual 26-week jobless benefits program.
Jobless benefits are essentially mini-financial stimulus packages for struggling American families. Helping laid-off breadwinners continue to purchase goods and services until they find new jobs ultimately bolsters the economy and makes further layoffs less likely.

About $27 billion of the economic stimulus package under consideration by Congress would be used to extend jobless benefits, which vary by state but average about $300 a week. That would cover roughly 3 million Americans through the end of 2009, according to the National Employment Law Project, an advocacy group.

The stimulus bill would also provide $7 billion to the states to encourage them to cover part-time workers and more low-wage workers. These changes could extend benefits to 500,000 people, according to the law project. The package would also add $25 a week to jobless benefits in an effort to further boost recipients' ability to spend.

But more fundamental reforms are needed to address the system's underlying weaknesses, several economists said.

Many of the 5.2 million unemployed Americans without jobless benefits already ran through their 26 weeks of assistance. The program, funded by states through taxes levied on employers, has been no match for a recession that is frustrating the ambitions of even the most qualified job hunters.

That is forcing families to cut back on spending and dip into savings, if they have any.

Paula Stein's $363 weekly benefits ran out last month. The former office manager from Goochland, Va., who missed several mortgage payments even before her benefits ended, has had to drain her savings and lean on her partner's $124-a-week unemployment check to help make ends meet.

"It's a domino effect," said Stein, 57, who receives a small pension from IBM, where she was an accounts receivable supervisor. "If you don't have a job, it touches everything."

Gus Faucher, director of macroeconomics at Moody's Economy.com, said if the government provided benefits to more workers, it would reduce the severity of the recession.

Congress extended unemployment benefits twice last year, adding up to 33 weeks of coverage for individuals. Still, there were roughly 500,000 more unemployed Americans not receiving benefits in December than a year before.

Before the emergency extensions, only about one-third of unemployed Americans were receiving benefits, a level that has declined steadily since coverage was at its peak in 1975.

The proportion of workers covered usually increases during recessions as Congress typically enacts extended benefits. Some experts argue that extensions should be automatic during downturns to avoid politicizing them.

But the crush of applicants has revealed other problems as well.

High demand — and insufficient funding — has made it difficult for many unemployment offices to keep up. Last month, online systems for requesting benefits in three states crashed under the crush of claimants. Other states, such as Michigan, have hired more workers to process the claims.

At least a half-dozen states have had to borrow money from the federal government to pay benefits after exhausting their unemployment insurance trust funds.

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Krustee

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The problem is that Governments have always used Unemployment and Pension contributions as general revenue.

There is no money in the so called Unemployment and Pension trust funds. They are just a book keeping entry on the government ledgers.

It's not going to be long until governments have to admit that government Unemployment, Pension, Health and Welfare funds are no longer available.
These systems work as long as there are a multitude more paying in than those filing a claim.

In a situation like we have now, where there is an unprecedented amount filing a claim, the system is being taxed beyond it's ability to pay out due to the overhead & wasteful expense of these government programs using a portion of the funds coming in.

So wasteful are the costs to run government programs that it takes 3 payers into the program to support one beneficiary.

But the sheeple want the gubment to take care of them at any cost!

:cool:
 

Yman

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Krustee, Your current obsession with reporting the economic news we hear on every corner is a real downer. I read the newspapers for my fill and I come here to PERB to lift my spirits. Granted the LOUNGE section is for discussion of ' whatever ' but you've started 5 threads that sit on the 1st page of threads --all reporting the sky is falling.

Give it up. We KNOW.

Is life that bad that you feel compelled to harp on the issue ? I know some people will tell me I should just ignore the thread , but 5 different threads on the 1st page !!
 

trackstar

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Krustee, Your current obsession with reporting the economic news we hear on every corner is a real downer. I read the newspapers for my fill and I come here to PERB to lift my spirits. Granted the LOUNGE section is for discussion of ' whatever ' but you've started 5 threads that sit on the 1st page of threads --all reporting the sky is falling.

Give it up. We KNOW.

Is life that bad that you feel compelled to harp on the issue ? I know some people will tell me I should just ignore the thread , but 5 different threads on the 1st page !!
Yes, what he said. Do you really want to be the "SilkyJohnson" of this subject? :confused:
 

Avery

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Well it's bad enough that we had 3.6 million job losses last year[/URL] & 626,000 new unemployment claims just last month...
We? Since when are you American? Not that "our" stats are a hell of a lot better, but, if you insist on stuffing The Lounge with countless threads on economic doom and gloom, at least quote some Canadian sources and refer to ourselves as "we", not the USA. Better yet, review an SP sometime. :rolleyes:
 

deslicher

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Krustee, Your current obsession with reporting the economic news we hear on every corner is a real downer. I read the newspapers for my fill and I come here to PERB to lift my spirits. Granted the LOUNGE section is for discussion of ' whatever ' but you've started 5 threads that sit on the 1st page of threads --all reporting the sky is falling.

Give it up. We KNOW.

Is life that bad that you feel compelled to harp on the issue ? I know some people will tell me I should just ignore the thread , but 5 different threads on the 1st page !!
You come here to lift your spirits?? I'm not sure what Krustee's motives are, but thankfully he's over my head so I just stop reading after a little bit. Have no idea why someone would want to report that much negativity unless he's a reporter or he's about to swallow a pistol, or he wants to let people know how much down time he has.

There is another member who has joined us as well who makes melancholy look like glee.....well not quite, but I'm sure you'll come across him soon. I'm actually afraid to put him in his place because it may just put him over the edge.

I call it emotional masturbation, he spurts his emotional baggage all over the place....and then leaves satisfied. I'm sure many of us have done it but not as consistent and cryptic. I hope he's reading because it will only be a matter of time before people's understanding wears thin.

Lastly, give people a break, we're on a site looking for a companion for an hour that will cost us 300$ an hour, how is that supposed to lift our spirits?? Esp when 300$ is looking like 500-700$ to alot of people right now.
 

Yman

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Lastly, give people a break, we're on a site looking for a companion for an hour that will cost us 300$ an hour, how is that supposed to lift our spirits?? Esp when 300$ is looking like 500-700$ to alot of people right now.
Few of the $300+ an hour SPs get reviewed on this site. Perhaps that is why there are fewer and fewer reviews. There are some. But to be honest I only occassionaly read the reviews these days.

I have already changed my pooning with the economic environment. I have resorted to the old fashioned method of dating and screwing with all its headache and complications. lol. It's less of a sure thing but at least I'm getting some of my needs met while it gives me added peace of mind in the pocket book. But its not for everyone and I wholeheartedly encourage supporting the fine ladies in the community.
 

FunSugarDaddy

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I actually enjoy reading about finance, I pretty much do it for both a living and a hobby, and even I'm tired of this negativity.
 

FunSugarDaddy

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Lastly, give people a break, we're on a site looking for a companion for an hour that will cost us 300$ an hour, how is that supposed to lift our spirits?? Esp when 300$ is looking like 500-700$ to alot of people right now.
Apparently it's about a week of EI entitlement in some states.

Let's see..food & shelter or sex..decisions decisions...
 

Krustee

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Krustee, Your current obsession with reporting the economic news we hear on every corner is a real downer. I read the newspapers for my fill and I come here to PERB to lift my spirits. Granted the LOUNGE section is for discussion of ' whatever ' but you've started 5 threads that sit on the 1st page of threads --all reporting the sky is falling.

Give it up. We KNOW.

Is life that bad that you feel compelled to harp on the issue ? I know some people will tell me I should just ignore the thread , but 5 different threads on the 1st page !!
Well first off let me thank you for your kind words of encouragement!

You are right -
  • I have posted a plethora of political prose.
  • I blithely bat about burgeoning bankruptcies & broken balance sheets in the big bad banks whose bellicose barons besmirch the business.
  • I follow the financial faux pas of fat cat fund managers who lack the fiduciary responsibility to foster faith from the masses.

I do this not to cause people to be frustrated but rather to be a voice of alarm about the impending economic nightmare which looms on our horizon.

I also do this because you are all my best friends & I just want y'all to know ...




I love y'all so much I even did something to show how much I care:



:p
Then how would we get the 10 different threads that Krustee starts a day? :rolleyes:
Blazeski - just for you I will limit it to 5 threads!
:D
Yup it is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy over the top. But hey, whatever floats his boat.
Actually, warm puppies, long walks on the beach & big bright yellow sunflowers float my boat but sharing on this board with my good friends is fun too!
;)
We? Since when are you American? Not that "our" stats are a hell of a lot better, but, if you insist on stuffing The Lounge with countless threads on economic doom and gloom, at least quote some Canadian sources and refer to ourselves as "we", not the USA. Better yet, review an SP sometime. :rolleyes:
I am a citizen of the world my man.
I care about my brothers south of the border.

You should care too, cuz, to be honest, if the good ol' US of A goes bust ...
SO DO WE!!!!

You come here to lift your spirits?? I'm not sure what Krustee's motives are, but thankfully he's over my head so I just stop reading after a little bit. Have no idea why someone would want to report that much negativity unless he's a reporter or he's about to swallow a pistol, or he wants to let people know how much down time he has.

There is another member who has joined us as well who makes melancholy look like glee.....well not quite, but I'm sure you'll come across him soon. I'm actually afraid to put him in his place because it may just put him over the edge.

I call it emotional masturbation, he spurts his emotional baggage all over the place....and then leaves satisfied. I'm sure many of us have done it but not as consistent and cryptic. I hope he's reading because it will only be a matter of time before people's understanding wears thin.
WOW!!!
I got so emotional reading your post, I came all over my keyboard!

Lastly, give people a break, we're on a site looking for a companion for an hour that will cost us 300$ an hour, how is that supposed to lift our spirits?? Esp when 300$ is looking like 500-700$ to alot of people right now.
Uh - yeah...
You may wanna look at that unless you are independently wealthy.

I actually enjoy reading about finance, I pretty much do it for both a living and a hobby, and even I'm tired of this negativity.
There is the alternative:


I have already changed my pooning with the economic environment. I have resorted to the old fashioned method of dating and screwing with all its headache and complications. lol. It's less of a sure thing but at least I'm getting some of my needs met while it gives me added peace of mind in the pocket book. But its not for everyone and I wholeheartedly encourage supporting the fine ladies in the community.
Another one bites the dust!!

I am not sayin don't poon I'm just sayin don't do it on a credit card!

Apparently it's about a week of EI entitlement in some states.

Let's see..food & shelter or sex..decisions decisions...
 

FunSugarDaddy

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It's hardly sticking your head in the sand to give this topic a rest or a while. This issue, crisis, event, or whatever you want to call it, doesn't change much on a daily basis.
 

Krustee

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Bump
;)
:d
 
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