Just puzzled... how long is too long?

[tantalizeme]

I remember the words of a female acquaintance who dumped her lawyer-boyfriend in spite of his money because “in bed he lasted all of 5 minutes.”

But a girlfriend’s nightmare may be an SP’s dream: the ideal client who’s in and out in the shortest feasible time. In fact, some reviews pretty much read: “Arrived, did my thing, left 15 min later.”

Well, I’m not that guy. Even though some AMPs offer 30 or even 20 min rates, I’ve never yet availed myself of such bargains. This hobby, for me, isn’t about just getting off for the least amount of money; it`s about trying to enjoy myself as much as possible, in a way that`s win-win for both the SP and myself.

And so far I`ve always reaped great enjoyment, provided a few conditions were met—such as a friendly and attractive partner, a reasonably comfortable setting, and 20 to 30 unrushed min for the main course.

I hasten to add, this isn’t uninterrupted pumping, but includes changes of position, CBJ interludes, condom replacements, applying more lube, conversation, a bit of masturbation to firm things up if necessary, and other spontaneous “going with the flow” activities. And I don’t pump too hard, but always sincerely try to be responsive to feedback signals as to the lady`s comfort.

I find most SPs are perfectly okay with my style of pleasure-seeking, though like most pooners I run into those who, after 5—15 min, say things like "Don`t go on for too long” or "It`s time for you to come." I don’t feel happy about such reminders, but obviously it’s not realistic to expect all SPs to have equal patience or liking for me. Usually it`s probably nothing personal; just the way some SPs are used to approaching their job.

But what surprises me isn’t SPs who rush but fellow pooners who rake me over the coals for taking too long—reminding me that some of these poor SPs are “fresh off the boat” and just “want to make a buck” so that it’s unconscionable to "power-hump" them for half an hour. https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=96073

Words of wisdom on this issue? I interpret lack of response as implying that my conscience can rest easy.

 

[Markl]

I guess the first thing to remember is, this is their job, they are in it for the money.

Secondly, it is your mileage may vary depending on you.

Lastly, the amount of times you have seen them. A repeat client will get better benefits, more openness.

One of the reasons I have stuck with my regular is the rapport we have after so long. She talks all about her life, the troubles, etc... A feeling of connection to me is more important than just the sex.

Respect the lady you are with, smell good, be well manicured. That goes a long way.

Make sure you take a second shower upon arrival, no matter if you showered just 30 mins before. It makes a difference.

Not really sure what else to say about this. I've never really been rushed out, ever.

As for the taking a long time to come during sex, realize that women are only women. Most Sps will not have orgasms at work, and most will fake it. If you take too long, they will develop tears in vagina wall if everyone they saw in the day took 30 mins. Which is uncomfortable. Try having sex for 2 hours a day yourself, everyday.. little johnny won't recuperate that fast.

Do an SP a favour, ask her, and maybe get a HJ or CBJ instead.

 

[FortunateOne]

A stop and go approach may give the sp a rest, but if you are thinking it enhances the experience and makes it more enjoyable, I doubt it. To cum, whether by daty or fs, steady and continuous action is going to get her there. Stopping to change positions, add lube, switch condoms, have a chat, you are saying that her cumming is not your concern. No wonder they want you to finish "soon" lol, they are just getting warmed up when you suddenly stop to move about. Do it often enough, and they will get frustrated and more than ready to pack it in.

Maybe 5 minutes isn't long enough, but 15 continuous minutes will do the job that 30 stop-n-starts won't. I don't think anyone said it was "unconscionable" to power hump for 30 minutes -- that is kind of skewing the feedback. Just that no one was surprised by an sp going into the session with a good attitude, but ending the session a tad negatively. Even at the end she still, IMO, had a good attitude by asking you to come in another "10 minutes" -- far more time than most of her clients would take without having already taken 20. I think the general consensus was "no wonder she said that", and add to that you sit her down and lecture her as well.

Markl has a good point -- imagine the wear and tear at the end of the day, I guess more than a few guys can imagine themselves in her place with a client that never seems to finish. They could like you perfectly fine, but do not like the feeling that they are being taken advantage of by someone who appears to be trying to extend their visit and exceed the agreed upon time and service. Not saying that you go overtime, just that someone reluctant to come when given a number of opportunities is going to come off that way to an sp who is meeting you for the first time.

 

[TheGuy]

A stop and go approach may give the sp a rest, but if you are thinking it enhances the experience and makes it more enjoyable, I doubt it. To cum, whether by daty or fs, steady and continuous action is going to get her there. Stopping to change positions, add lube, switch condoms, have a chat, you are saying that her cumming is not your concern. No wonder they want you to finish "soon" lol, they are just getting warmed up when you suddenly stop to move about. Do it often enough, and they will get frustrated and more than ready to pack it in.

Maybe 5 minutes isn't long enough, but 15 continuous minutes will do the job that 30 stop-n-starts won't. I don't think anyone said it was "unconscionable" to power hump for 30 minutes -- that is kind of skewing the feedback. Just that no one was surprised by an sp going into the session with a good attitude, but ending the session a tad negatively. Even at the end she still, IMO, had a good attitude by asking you to come in another "10 minutes" -- far more time than most of her clients would take without having already taken 20. I think the general consensus was "no wonder she said that", and add to that you sit her down and lecture her as well.

Markl has a good point -- imagine the wear and tear at the end of the day, I guess more than a few guys can imagine themselves in her place with a client that never seems to finish. They could like you perfectly fine, but do not like the feeling that they are being taken advantage of by someone who appears to be trying to extend their visit and exceed the agreed upon time and service. Not saying that you go overtime, just that someone reluctant to come when given a number of opportunities is going to come off that way to an sp who is meeting you for the first time.

I have read of guys who would jack off before seeing an escort to make things last longer and "get their money's worth".

I do think that Asian's who are charging so little are not looking for 45 minutes of banging away - hey that is a lot of work.

 

[HB40]

I have read of guys who would jack off before seeing an escort to make things last longer and "get their money's worth".

I've actually had an SP suggest I do that. Just seems strange, wouldn't I be getting more of my money's worth if I can shoot twice in a session.

Oddly, I've never had an escort tell me to hurry up.

I don't think I'm premature but normally a first time meeting I can't control my excitement. But once I've seen a girl a couple of times I'm good to go.

I don't think I would ever lecture a girl on her service, but I do sometimes offer tips to newer girls on what alot of guys like, teasing the bum and balls during the massage for instance.

 

[deslicher]

Listen and listen good if she's into you, there won't be a "too long"....do ya get it. Sp or no sp, doesn't matter...IF they are into you they'll want you to go and go....but shouldn't you be doin that with your gf??

That lawyer chick is just lying(that's a shock). What i'm saying is:

With an SP, doesn't much matter, unless she's doing it just as much for the sex and in my experience that is the case...well.... do it a 2nd and if she's really good maybe a 3rd...lol.

The bottom line: Either it's a big porn style like D..k who can last awhile or someone who is pretty good but is a muti-millionaire.

Oh...BTW, women are like this in general not just sp's.

Dats dat.

 

[trackstar]

Listen and listen good if she's into you, there won't be a "too long"....do ya get it. Sp or no sp, doesn't matter...IF they are into you they'll want you to go and go....but shouldn't you be doin that with your gf??

That lawyer chick is just lying(that's a shock). What i'm saying is:

With an SP, doesn't much matter, unless she's doing it just as much for the sex and in my experience that is the case...well.... do it a 2nd and if she's really good maybe a 3rd...lol.

The bottom line: Either it's a big porn style like D..k who can last awhile or someone who is pretty good but is a muti-millionaire.

Oh...BTW, women are like this in general not just sp's.

Dats dat.

So if you're her fifth client of the day, the other 4 were hairy backed fat bastards that poored sweat while pushing their 2nd shot on goal, she's still gonna want you to fuck her for hours because, "She's into you"? Maybe Dat's not always dat sluggo

 

[Harmony-bc]

I think what every one needs to remember, is that sp's are also women, lol.

some women love sex, some women hate sex, some are un-comfortable with sex. some women get into this because they have bills, kids to feed, parties to go to. drugs to do, some women really and truly love sex, and think hey wouldn't it be great if you could get paid doing something you love, and paid well. some women are forced into it by creepy boyfriends, or trafficked and some like the freedom doing this gives them, so many reasons. You will never know in most cases why she chooses to do what she does, but you can choose to be sensitive to her needs. some sps see 1 customer a day, some see 5 or more. its very hard to enjoy your customers if you are over worked.
I would follow her comfort level, if you are still going when she has decided to stop pretending she likes it, lol. the polite thing to do would be to finish, get a massage for the rest of the session, leave, don't go back, come here and write a review, lol

 

[Harmony-bc]

I love that bum, you can just watch it jiggle for hours, fascinating.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I think I like yours better, its juicier, fatter, and rounder, lol. His was nice too though.

 

[deslicher]

So if you're her fifth client of the day, the other 4 were hairy backed fat bastards that poored sweat while pushing their 2nd shot on goal, she's still gonna want you to fuck her for hours because, "She's into you"? Maybe Dat's not always dat sluggo

Where in my post did I mention time...as in "hours"? I didn't....if they are into it, it's about pleasure....for both parties.

Oh, btw I won't be seein someone if I'm their 5th client of the day...if I do, they better act like i'm the 1st.....or I don't repeat....simple.

 

[Small pleasures]

Only speaking from personal experience...my ex had a big cock and took forever to cum. It was just the way he was, even when he masturbated.

It didn't matter what we did, I would often get sore if it took too long. I seem to be pretty small down there. We compromised and he was happy with me giving him a hand finish.

If you're okay with the SP having the option to give you a hand finish or a CBJ then it shouldn't matter if you take awhile to cum. If you insist on intercourse for a finish and you take a long time to cum then I imagine an SP could get a little frustrated with that.

 

[kidstone]

Don't SPs offer multiple hours, and usually at a better rate? So if you've booked two hours, there's no reason why she should be rushing you at the half way mark.

But if you're just paying for fifteen minutes, I can see why the SP would be rushing.

 

[deslicher]

Only speaking from personal experience...my ex had a big cock and took forever to cum. It was just the way he was, even when he masturbated.

It didn't matter what we did, I would often get sore if it took too long. I seem to be pretty small down there. We compromised and he was happy with me giving him a hand finish.

If you're okay with the SP having the option to give you a hand finish or a CBJ then it shouldn't matter if you take awhile to cum. If you insist on intercourse for a finish and you take a long time to cum then I imagine an SP could get a little frustrated with that.

Shows how much I know, big dick, taking forever to cum, I wouldn't mind having that problem....but I know it's all relative, depends what you think Big is, my opinion is anything over 7" is pretty big, although I know there are men on this board who are 7-7.5" and think they're not big....that's just fucked.

I'm definitely average, not considered small except by those who started out with a 7"er and never went backward....to them I guess I would be.

I actually lost my erection once because the womens pussy was too big, she didn't have any kegels, I could pretty much put a fist in there, it was like fucking water. Bottom line is if a woman/girl starts out with something pretty big....she'll always need something pretty big....unless she does kegel excercises on a daily basis.

 

[Small pleasures]

Shows how much I know, big dick, taking forever to cum, I wouldn't mind having that problem....but I know it's all relative, depends what you think Big is, my opinion is anything over 7" is pretty big, although I know there are men on this board who are 7-7.5" and think they're not big....that's just fucked.

I'm definitely average, not considered small except by those who started out with a 7"er and never went backward....to them I guess I would be.

I actually lost my erection once because the womens pussy was too big, she didn't have any kegels, I could pretty much put a fist in there, it was like fucking water. Bottom line is if a woman/girl starts out with something pretty big....she'll always need something pretty big....unless she does kegel excercises on a daily basis.

Interesting comments...

Firstly, regarding big cocks, big can mean think, long or both. Some are long and not-so-thick, some are thick and not so long, some are both. What makes me sore is thickness. What actually hurts me in a really uncomfortable way is length. I'm just little.

I currently sell a lot of video's about small penis humiliation and video's of me fucking a big cock (although the clips are ususally less than 10 min's *wink*) so for business reasons I can't really say that size doesn't matter.

Are far as pussy tightness, kegals and muscle control, I can tell you from someone who has fisted a lot that it is very individual. You can not generalize. I was trained to fist by a 50 year old gay man who had been into it for 20 years. After double fisting him almost to my elbow he said: "I bet you think I'm loose and that a guy fucking my ass with his cock wouldn't enjoy it? Take your hands out and put one finger in." I did, he clenched and nearly broke my finger.

I have fisted a lot of women who then took a cock a few minutes later. I always ask the men how it felt. It depended on the woman. Some women were able to use their muscles to become nice and snug right away, others not so much.

Oh, it also didn't seem to matter whether the woman had given birth vaginally or not. That also seems to be a myth that women who have had children aren't as tight...but again, probably an individual thing.

 

[mimi]

concerning the comment in the original post about the fellow who only lasted 5 minutes:

fact: the average human male, from first thrust to ejaculation, without interruptions, will last between 4-8 minutes...

...so this guy was finishing well within the parameters. She was not into him.

One cannot judge from a porn film how long a man is lasting because:

no.1: they quite often tie off to make it last (note the rather droopy yet firm cocks in many of these films).

no. 2: they can rework the takes to make anything look like it's forever...

4-8 minutes is actually a lot longer than it seems...try timing it! Once, a client bragged about being able to give face for hours. It was a duo situation and this was another sp's regular...she would give a very realistic orgasm after about 20 seconds of his first lick...so, I lay back and watched the clock on the wall and after 5 minutes he became very frustrated and looked up at me like a drowned cat. I gave a polite little orgasm so he could catch his breath.

And last, your disappointment at being hastened out the door...you need to sort out in your mind which business you are patronizing. That of the street hooker or the escort?

A street hooker, no matter how pretty, sweet and willing, is a tough cooky, charging a smaller fee and taking in a larger client base in a shorter period of time. She has to hustle to meet the bottom line of whoever owns her. It doesn't matter if she is not actually working on the street...

An escort is a lady. She charges enough for her services to ensure that her clients receive the attention due to them. Even when working for an agency she has the right of refusal. No 'body' owns her (except ad agencies!)

 

[FortunateOne]

re: mimi

Funny you should say 4-8 minutes just now, cuz I just heard Tyra come up with the average of 7 minutes a few moments ago. She's reading your mind lol.

Actually, she said something like "after about 7 minutes, I'm ready to say get off me" lol Apparently 7 minutes is the average, which implies that anywhere from 1-15 minutes would be within the parameters of "normal", or in this case, what the majority of sps will be expecting.

And rates/type of sp do matter: you rarely hear of a 300/hr indy escort looking at the clock or saying hurry up because she knows her time is well-compensated. Lower rate micro sps are not getting well paid and their attitude will reflect this when someone steps outside of what they expect.

 

[mimi]

Oh yeah, ok, I have to make one comment about big loose vaginas.

The vagina of a woman who is not sexually excited is approx. 3 inch in length. When she becomes excited, first phase, the inner organs pull away and the length of the vagina increases to accomodate the penis. The vagina is actually a penis inside out. At some point in the development of the fetus the y chromosome makes its presence felt and...I cannot condense this! Just trust me on this!

It stands to reason, that if men have different size penis' then women would have different size vaginas.

Back in my twenties I was wonderfully tight, from a man's perspective. But, sex was uncomfortable for me. Now, in my forties, I find sex to be totally awesome, I can grip when I need to but I can also relax...like a comfy ole shoe...LOL. lovely thought eh?

I had the finger test to check for vaginal tightness (bet the gynos just love dong this test!) and the Dr. was very impressed. I could tell by the look on his face....actually, wow, I got all rosy and warm, it was a total turn on!
I have to go now!

 

[mimi]

Hello Fortunate one, yes 1-15 sounds good, I like it. But, remember we are talking about uninterrupted, no changing positions or resting. The stats I got were from a Universtiy website, a urology dep. where they test all sorts of things. I have been doing quite a bit of research on Erectile Dysfunction as most of my clients are older, (still horny as hell), and I bump into other interesting snippets of info...I do not know how they carried out the research, what type of controls they used, etc....did they just get a line up volunteers to come in and masturbate? If so, did they select form a wide enough base etc...

 

[island-guy]

I could pretty much put a fist in there, it was like fucking water

"It was like fucking water"

That is the most awesome line I've heard in a looooong time. I am going to add it to my list.