Just gimme a baseball bat and an enclosed room and lead them in single file.
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The response and comments from many youths to this event seems to vouch for ' confusion ' over many moral issues. I'm not surprised as the internet has thousand of websites which show and depict gang rape and gang bang scenarios. Some of these videos get copied , stolen and re-posted to sharing websites without the necessary warnings or statements that the participants are actors participating in consensual acts . At some point one has to wonder if the participants are actually willing ? I've seen links from this website to videos showing some pretty outrageous acts like violent blow jobs for example. I often think : ' that person can't be consenting to such abuse ' . Who knows ? Shouldn't we know ? How can we watch and partake if we don't know ? I can only imagine the impact on a teen who probably spends more time watching online porn than studying ' law ' as part of the high school curriculum.
Here's what's gonna go down. Message boards all over will light up, a lot will say these guys need to get their heads bashed in, a bunch will say let them go to prison and get raped. Some smart ass douches will say she enjoyed it/deserved it or whatever.
At the end of it all, they've arrested one 16 year old and most likely he will get 1-2 years of juvie and probation. Being that he's a minor, he'll get no criminal record, hell, once he's out, he may even goto a good college in the future, get a good job and make more than people who'd never even think of doing shit like that to someone else. Meanwhile this will probably haunt the girl for the rest of her life. 3 years from now, all the guys will be hanging out with friends like nothing ever happened. If they happen to arrest any adults, 1-2 years max and probation. For all the outrage the population has, nothing will come of it. In a few weeks, it'll be forgotten until the next case. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying that we as a society are too complacent.
What I'm saying is that I'm tired of getting all riled up and than nothing happens, the politicians give us lip service of tougher sentences, but it never sticks and at the end of the day, judges don't give a shit. They are just talking assholes sitting behind a large bench. A bet a bunch of politicians will go on TV, say how horrible and disgusting it was and as soon as the cameras are off, the parasite will forget all about it. None of the real decision makers really care unless it happens to one of theirs. It's instances like these that I wish we as a society wasn't so "civilized". We should all say "Enough of this bullshit" and make the judges and politicians accountable. None of this vote them of out office bullshit, but march up to their house and tear that fucker down.
At the end of it all, they've arrested one 16 year old and most likely he will get 1-2 years of juvie and probation. Being that he's a minor, he'll get no criminal record, hell, once he's out, he may even goto a good college in the future, get a good job and make more than people who'd never even think of doing shit like that to someone else. Meanwhile this will probably haunt the girl for the rest of her life. 3 years from now, all the guys will be hanging out with friends like nothing ever happened. If they happen to arrest any adults, 1-2 years max and probation. For all the outrage the population has, nothing will come of it. In a few weeks, it'll be forgotten until the next case. Not saying that it's right, I'm just saying that we as a society are too complacent.
What I'm saying is that I'm tired of getting all riled up and than nothing happens, the politicians give us lip service of tougher sentences, but it never sticks and at the end of the day, judges don't give a shit. They are just talking assholes sitting behind a large bench. A bet a bunch of politicians will go on TV, say how horrible and disgusting it was and as soon as the cameras are off, the parasite will forget all about it. None of the real decision makers really care unless it happens to one of theirs. It's instances like these that I wish we as a society wasn't so "civilized". We should all say "Enough of this bullshit" and make the judges and politicians accountable. None of this vote them of out office bullshit, but march up to their house and tear that fucker down.
There is a big difference between our fantasies and reality.
What kids say about themselves to appear cool and to be accepted, or, to challenge people, is very different from who they are inside.
I hear trashy talk from 13 year old girls all the time...they talk about things that make my hair stand on end, and they are not one bit serious. They are from very, very dysfunctional homes and have lived under terrible stress for most of their lives...
Punishing someone with gang rape is not acceptable.
What women wear and how much they drink does not make it acceptable to abuse them. Although the Taliban and many Christians think otherwise.
What if it was a slutty guy who talked big and drank heavy...what if a bunch of guys slipped him a drug and dragged his body out and gang banged him and took pictures?
Also, what does it say about the guys who did this? I remember guys at biker parties putting the clothes back on the slutty women as they drank and became out of control...I saw guys protecting these women from other guys...
If I was her mother I would not rest until I had personally strangled each one of those boys and men...but, I wonder if her mother has ever cared that much for her....
What kids say about themselves to appear cool and to be accepted, or, to challenge people, is very different from who they are inside.
I hear trashy talk from 13 year old girls all the time...they talk about things that make my hair stand on end, and they are not one bit serious. They are from very, very dysfunctional homes and have lived under terrible stress for most of their lives...
Punishing someone with gang rape is not acceptable.
What women wear and how much they drink does not make it acceptable to abuse them. Although the Taliban and many Christians think otherwise.
What if it was a slutty guy who talked big and drank heavy...what if a bunch of guys slipped him a drug and dragged his body out and gang banged him and took pictures?
Also, what does it say about the guys who did this? I remember guys at biker parties putting the clothes back on the slutty women as they drank and became out of control...I saw guys protecting these women from other guys...
If I was her mother I would not rest until I had personally strangled each one of those boys and men...but, I wonder if her mother has ever cared that much for her....
The facebook pages of my daughter's friends are filled with trash...pretty strange considering they are just 13 year old sheltered kids....they talk about things they have little knowledge of in order to seem mature...
How did you know her name? Was it published?
How did you know her name? Was it published?
You couldn't be more wrong on the drugging. At raves you take drugs that can be very similar to date rape drugs or even take date rape drugs in low does. An example is GHB, if you take it in a low dose it will give you a controllable high and heightened sexual feeling. Does it make the alleged rape any more right that she might have taken the drug willingly? No.
"Like these other "club drugs," GHB is taken because users feel that it enhances the experience of being in a club or at a party; small doses of GHB are thought to act as a stimulant and aphrodisiac. GHB is sometimes referred to as liquid ecstasy, liquid X, or liquid E due to its tendency to produce euphoria and sociability and its use in the dance party scene."
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-Hydroxybutyric_acid#Club_scene_or_.22rave.22
It was not published.
Very disturbing. That poor girl.
You know what's just as disturbing? The fact that apparently who ever was involved in the gang rape, both participating, watching or taking photos/videos didn't even really see what they were doing as wrong? Or very serious? Why else would you take/appear in photos and POST them on facebook...?
Obviously these guys didn't even realize what they were doing was bad? That's scary. It's one thing to know what you're doing is bad but there is something really wrong with the fact that a 16 year old thought nothing of posting these pictures. I mean, wtf?
You know what's just as disturbing? The fact that apparently who ever was involved in the gang rape, both participating, watching or taking photos/videos didn't even really see what they were doing as wrong? Or very serious? Why else would you take/appear in photos and POST them on facebook...?
Obviously these guys didn't even realize what they were doing was bad? That's scary. It's one thing to know what you're doing is bad but there is something really wrong with the fact that a 16 year old thought nothing of posting these pictures. I mean, wtf?
jeez...maybe it wasn't a good idea to let your 16 yr old kid go to a rave party....unless you are the only parent on earth that hasn't heard about the prime purpose of a rave party is to get whacked on E and other drugs....
and there is not a western society on earth that is going to castrate a teenager no matter how much he deserves it.....in fact, I bet that poor girl is forced to attend classes with the same punks that raped her......
Parents have abdicated their responsibility in raising their children to our teaching system and their left wing agenda...and this is the result.
and there is not a western society on earth that is going to castrate a teenager no matter how much he deserves it.....in fact, I bet that poor girl is forced to attend classes with the same punks that raped her......
Parents have abdicated their responsibility in raising their children to our teaching system and their left wing agenda...and this is the result.
Immaterial; don't blame the victims here. And what kid 'asks' permission for something they know will likely be forbidden?
Were you ever a teenager yourself?This is the same type of illogical reasoning that will be used by the defense; I'm sure they will also argue that she was inappropriately dressed, and therefore, assumes part of the blame.
I went to one of the first ever raves in Montreal with some of my friends. We were all 16 and all "supposed" to be sleeping over at one another's house. My parents never "gave me permission", nor did they know where I was.. they were convinced I was at a friends. I was a good kid so they had no reason to think otherwise.
From about 14-16 yrs old, before we could get into bars, we had parties in the woods. You think my parents allowed me? Do you think I even asked? I was either gone to the movies, or to a friends house, etc... You can't keep teenagers locked up and you can bet they won't ask you if they already know your answer is going to be no. (oops I'm repeating what Sonoman wrote..just read the comment. oh well.)
There is one time that especially sticks out in my mind where I was passed out and bad things definitely could have happened to me. . Especially considering I was out with guys only, had they been POS like the kids in question here, no doubt it would have been a very bad situation. But I was lucky and none of the guys I was with were like that and actually came to get me in the women's bathroom, jumped over the stall because I'd locked myself and passed out. Nothing bad happened to me, my friends took care of me and made sure I got home safely.
This night I'm talking about, I was well in my 20's and even then poor judgment on my part landed me in a potentially dangerous situation. The age is absolutely irrelevant. Weren't the kid taking the photos and the one arrested juveniles? So take all of those kids and move them to party with a lot of kids their age....you think you'd have gotten a different result?
That kind of situation can happen at any age and whether you're 16 or 36, you don't go ahead and gang rape, regardless of what age you are, day of the week it is or drug anyone's on. Period.
There is all that stuff (drugs) at school too, do you recommend one parent stay home to homeschool his/her children and keep a leash on them 24hr a day?
Immaterial; don't blame the victims here. And what kid 'asks' permission for something they know will likely be forbidden?
This is the same type of illogical reasoning that will be used by the defense; I'm sure they will also argue that she was inappropriately dressed, and therefore, assumes part of the blame.
I was originally pissed that the media even reported it. These sensational stories always seem to inspire 'copy cats'. Spreading it through the media just made those pictures more in demand.
One of my friend's daughters was raped when she was 13. The mother was definitely at fault as she was seriously into crack and left the daughter with unreliable people when she was on a binge. The daughter is now quite a bit older, an addict, and a cutter...her arms are covered in scars.
Those boys (and men...some were 18 no?) will walk away and soon it will be an unpleasant memory...that girl will carry it with her forever, and may never heal.
One of my friend's daughters was raped when she was 13. The mother was definitely at fault as she was seriously into crack and left the daughter with unreliable people when she was on a binge. The daughter is now quite a bit older, an addict, and a cutter...her arms are covered in scars.
Those boys (and men...some were 18 no?) will walk away and soon it will be an unpleasant memory...that girl will carry it with her forever, and may never heal.
Negligent behaviour, but it doesn't excuse what happened.
Yes; hopefully she remains unable to recall much of what happened.
Well Hopefully.
But even then, the fact that everyone around her knows is probably going to be just as hard to deal with and just as bad as remembering IMO.
So she doesn't recall what happened?
I know you probably don't give a shit but this comment really pissed me off.I would like to see the pics. How do I search?
Regardless of the outcome in the investigation this is a disgusting comment...grow the f**k up.
