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kalel

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would you be okay with all restaurants charging $100 for an 8oz steak, because that's what they think it's worth, or shoes for $1000, or a hoody for $300? think about what you're proposing with a set rate. there are many different levels to it, pick the one you think you are worth, if you make the money at that rate keep it, if you have too much demand for your services at that rate then raise it, and if you find yourself lacking customers then you know what to do.

as for us renting your body, i like how you put it - i rent it so forgive me if i don't ask or care how your day was, do my thing and quietly leave when my rental period is over. of course it's not that cut and dry, but if you treat it like a rental period then you are gonna get guys who say it the same way.

ps david hasslehoff? really? i thought he was butt.
 

SexyBoy

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I think VV is worth every penny that she charges!

She is just so naughty and I think she is even hotter because of her sexy body and age.

I think she needs to do a tour!
 

maxx50

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Some days.

I happen to agree with that a women is worth what ever she want to ask .. and at the same time hope that at no time that s all they think they are worth.
Giving of ones self has no price tag and SP's give alot more then just sex . or their body to be rented for an hour at a time. A man comes back for the person that they see and yes respect.. Maybe sex and fucking is not the way to show that respect all the time .. but it is a part of the very being that we all are( I found this out very late in life)
The other side that this post has reminded me of ..and reinforce in many of the ladies .. is the shitty attitude of so many of the men here. I am ashamed for there attitudes.. so many guy just think women are there to be used and a bussed and i am sure that attitude is the same towards . every women they meet .not just SP's.. It tells me a lot of why they are here and why they use SP's.. You all my have your experiences that cause you to think and act that way but sure does not make the world a better place . Yes I could be lumped it to that category also. and i have my reasons for seeing SP's .. but not because i think less of women .. possiblily be cause i think more of them.. just have a srewed up way of showing it
 

aznboi9

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Third, as for the issue of rating sp's on looks, performance etc,. How else do you propose clients are to make a decision on who to see? Men judge women in the civvie world too based on looks etc,. We are attracted to physical beauty.

I think you need to present better reasons why men should accept a standardized price of $300 for the services of an sp. Untill then....let the market prevail
Well said.

Maybe, you are missing the point being made in some of the reviews you're on about. If I find an SP's pricing unreasonable for what is being sought/offered, I'll move on, but, and I think this is where the reviews you're complaining about come from, if the SP does not live up to the service sought/promised, then the client has every right to slag the SP in question. If the SP is not worth it, then what does being a person have to do with it? ...

It's not like I can go to the Better Business Bureau if I have a complaint about an SP, this Board is pretty well it.
And ditto this as well.

This is a review board; it's our only recourse from scams and rip offs and, by definition, a review is an opinion. If you don't like it, sorry, but get over it.
 

kodiak_bear3

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The Economics Of Prostitution

I have recently come across an interesting paper written in 2001 by Edslund and Korn, two well-respected economists, who published "A Theory of Prostitution" in the Journal of Political Economy. The paper considered wives and prostitutes as economic "goods" that can be substituted for each other. Men buy, women sell.

They used market analysis to tackle the questions: Why do prostitutes make so much money? Prostitution is, seemingly, a low-skill but high-pay profession with few upfront costs, micro-miniskirts and stiletto heels aside.

Developing the consequences of their mathematical model, Edlund and Korn argue that the primary reason for the income differential is not the risk sometimes associated with the practice of prostitution but rather that prostitutes greatly diminish their chances for marriage by virtue of their occupation. Men generally don't want to marry (ex)prostitutes, and so women must be relatively well-compensated in order to forgo the opportunity to marry.

Prostitutes make more money--in some cases, a lot more money--than do girls who work for a living. This held true even for places where prostitution is legal and relatively safe. In short, prostitutes aren't necessarily being paid more for their increased risk of going to jail or the hospital.

Edlund and Korn admit that spouses and prostitutes aren't exactly alike. Wives, in truth, are superior to prostitutes in the economist's sense of being a good whose consumption increases as income rises--like fine wine. This may explain why prostitution is less common in wealthier countries. But the implication remains that wives and prostitutes are--if not exactly like Coke and Pepsi--something akin to champagne and beer. The same sort of thing.

The model also predicts that how much a woman damages her chances to marry by becoming a prostitute depends on how likely it is that she'll be exposed as one.
The likelihood shrinks if the woman leaves home and migrates to a different part of the country or to a different country altogether. This would also explain why foreign prostitutes are likely to be cheaper than domestic ones.

One last prediction the model makes is that the income differential paid to prostitutes will rise with the status the culture accords wives.
That is, if wives are valued highly, would-be prostitutes are giving up a lot by becoming prostitutes and will require more money to do so. And if wives have few privileges, would-be prostitutes aren't giving up much to become prostitutes and thus need less inducement to do so.

Of course the economical model is biased by the raw assumptions made by the 2 economists. In particular, the assumption that there is no "third way" between wife and prostitution is problematic, if not outright offensive.
Like any statistical model, this one ignores the diversity of real people and the complexities of love and pleasure, changing social mores, et cetera. Still, once all its equations have been solved, a simple fact remains: Most women enter prostitution for the money.
 

Krustee

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This whole issue of price of the SP`s was addressed in another thread which I unabashedly stated the union mentality of the SPs about pricng here in Vancouver.
I`ve been around long enough to remember the price change that happened just under a couple years back.
My own SP raised her rate on me & said that she was told to do it by other SP`s (more like threatened).

Naturally I complied then after much discussion about who she should trust more, me or the other girls in this biz, I got back to my original rate which is less than half what most SP`s advertise here.

She & I have an agreement which is mutually beneficial and that is the way it should be.

Check out this thread:
https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=682350#post682350
 
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Miss*Bijou

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SP's should accept the fact this is a review board dominated by men and if we demean women so be it. Don't come here and read the posts! And no, I'm not a woman-basher but c'mon, we are Men for christ sake's!

Sorry, I don't buy that.
There are many men I know and many who's posts I read, that have my total respect whether I agree with their opinion or not. I've always hung out with mostly guys and I've heard A LOT of things that I've rolled my eyes about.. but have never felt belittled or insulted as a result, even if I didn't share their opinion on women.
However on any given day I can come on perb and read some of the most ignorant, self serving, ignorant, moronic, ignorant, sexist, ignorant, disrespectful, ignorant comments. Some so ignorant I have to comment if no one else has. It's just not necessary. Some of you just prove your own stupidity (and inferiority :p ) by writing the way you do and not being able to find a more tactful way to get the same or similar message across.

If you demean women then so be it? Are you fucking kidding me? Yes, it's a review board. A review board on the internet and it's public, for anyone to read. When you're in the locker room, say whatever the hell you want - privately with your buddies. You'll never hear a thing out of me!

But as you know this site is also for advertising purposes as well as is a review board and there are many ladies who do visit to read their own. You and other pooners should accept the fact that this is a review site about women so odds are there will be women who might not appreciate ignorant and demeaning comments made about them.. because guess what? They're just not necessary and there are MANY intelligent and respectful men on this board who prove that everyday. (Thank you ;) )

The day this is a private board and only men are allowed, you go ahead and join all the ignorant monkeys who pollute this board with their women-hating garbage... but until then, join a hockey league and keep it in the locker room. Thanks.
 

maxx50

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THat need to be said.

Only you could put that way.M B. Stait up.. Your right this is not a locker room.. or out with the buddies.. but some people think the anonminity of the Internet allows them to be asses. and they prove it all the time.
I am agreeing not just to get myself points .. I just don't hang out with people like that in the first place.. and when i here it here it turns me off of these board also. If you know you won't get away with that attitude in you every day real world .. don't pull that shit here.
There have been a few that it has come back to bit some one in the ass in there everyday life.. We are not anonymous to the girls we see.
 

Miss*Bijou

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Not all the posters here are women-haters. But the ones who are what do you expect from them?

There are jerks everywhere you go!



That only explains why we there are such comments written....... it doesn't explain or mean we have to accept and be okay about them. ;)

You think we (women, sp's,..) haven't had our own share of personal experiences with assholes and human waste in our relationships?? Trust me, I'm sure if some of us wrote 1/10th of what we've put up with, you'd wonder why we don't need to behave ourselves the way some of you do towards the rest of your gender. ;) There's no excuse for it. I don't care, there just is nothing that justifies it in my books. Period.

Maxx hit it on the head, if you wouldn't say it or behave that way out in public..... then you shouldn't here either. And to that I'll add that if you wouldn't sit silently after hearing someone's unnecessary disrespectful or hurtful comment in public.... neither should you here. The more you guys speak up about what's acceptable and what isn't, the more others will think twice about doing it. I mean, do you really want to trust reviews that are written by women hating ignorant monkeys anyway?
(ok, I'll admit it.. I just really wanted to use the monkey reference again! :p )
 

SexyBoy

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Demean women.....

Never.

I admit I enjoy dirty talk and aggressive sex. I like to mark my territory as a natural instinct.

However I totally respect women. I dislike hurting a woman emotionally and physically.

Some women really dislike being rated on by their looks. Not everyone is perfect I don't like to lie. I find beauty in other aspects. There are times I want to fuck a supermodel.

However that pales in comparison to wanting to fuck a real sweetie.
 

aznboi9

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And your attitude works both ways, so remember what you just posted in this thread. You can tell us to get over it all you want, but is there truly a need to be so harsh? No there's not, there's a way of being tactful when doing a review and then you can be an outright asshole about it, the choice is yours but if you choose to be an asshole and sorry but there are alot of asshole reviews (and there alot of good one's too), but is that really needed? And that's the point quite a few of you are missing.
While that may be your point, it was not what ee’s original post, or even her second post, was about nor was it the point I was addressing. The OP was basically a complaint about when pooners complain about getting shoddy service. Or more specifically, we shouldn’t be giving our judgement that a girl was not worth the price for whatever services were offered. That’s ridiculous. A girl charges whatever she wants; but it’s the market that ultimately determines/judges that worth ie the pooners who are choosing or not choosing to pay.

And while one should always try to be as respectful as possible, in the end, there’s really only so many ways to tell others you believe an SP’s services are poor or a rip-off without just coming out and saying it.

From what I’ve heard, this situation can usually be avoided by providing a good service and not ripping people off.
 

Miss*Bijou

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Demean women.....

Never.

I admit I enjoy dirty talk and aggressive sex. I like to mark my territory as a natural instinct.

However I totally respect women. I dislike hurting a woman emotionally and physically.

Some women really dislike being rated on by their looks. Not everyone is perfect I don't like to lie. I find beauty in other aspects. There are times I want to fuck a supermodel.

However that pales in comparison to wanting to fuck a real sweetie.



The thing is, why is it not enough to say supermodel looks? You say that and everyone knows what you're talking about.
The rating system is for the most part useless as not every pooner has the same idea of what a 7 is or what a 8.5 is. One guy's "9" is anothers "6" so what the hell does that mean to anyone reading it? Nothing.. You all have different standards or base yourself on different criteria to come up with those ridiculous numbers.

To you she might be a 7 because she was on the short side, or had a fuller bum.. But how does that remotely help the next guy if he loves full bums or short girls and that makes anyone a 9 in his books?

There's a way of describing features that perhaps did not appeal to you, that can be helpful for the next guy who is looking for that while still respectful to the sp. He reads your 7 rating and that means absolutely nothing. Or it means his idea of a 7, which isn't anything close to your idea of a 7. Ratings are dumb. :rolleyes:

Just give actual information and that will be more helpful to others, than some random number ever will IMHO. :cool:
 

SexyBoy

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Reading the OP comments what's wrong with scoring women out of 10? We are paying for services and if we want to give a mark there's nothing wrong with that. It's our opinion and if we want to use a grading system we should be able to.

Maybe there should be a SP only board so you all can bitch and complain about the overbearing, misogynistic, unhygenic clients you see from time to time. And I know for a fact you women do see them.
Nothing should be wrong with it.

A girl that scores high in all three areas is going to make a ton of cash.

Of course it depends on the reviewer and if the reviews stay good.
 

Miss*Bijou

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Oh there's no doubt in my mind you put up with some of the foulest, sorriest excuses of male garbage out there. I've read some of the negative comments by the male posters here and I know they hate the majority of women. They are misogynistic but what do you expect from men paying for sex? A lot of guys here have had a bad string of luck from women in general so no wonder there can be a lot of gender bashing. It doesn't make it right but it's not going to change their minds.


Hun, I wasn't talking about men who pay for sex.. I was talking about men we've dated in our personal life. :p
 

Miss*Bijou

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Can we go there?

Seems like a double standard.

At least we have PM.


No, not a double standard at all. It's really important for safety reasons and many others. Most of us are isolated in this business and not in contact with any of the other girls so that is a place to get a lot of information from other ladies on a variety of topics. Trust me, it isn't a bitch fest though there is the occasional rant about something worth ranting about!

And yes, PM! Sometimes that is exactly what some of the comments should be reserved for and guys should use this to ask about or give more specific/intimate details. ;)
 

erotic_exotica

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I thank aznboi9 for trying to understand my point and your almost there hon. What I was really trying to bring to everyone attention is the level or lack there of, respect I see on this board towards women. And I don’t think I should have to suck it up and deal with it. It’s comments about me and my fellow sp’s. Tuula2 is right, I am new to the biz of only 8-9 months and as many kind and sweet gents I meet everyday, this board scares me. Now I’m sure over time I will develop a thicker skin but as for now all I wanted to point out is that do "some" of the gents on here really have to say that a sp's not worth it?? Couldn't we find a more respectful term to use, perhaps “she wasn’t what I was expecting” ect. I seriously think that all (good) sp's are worth it no matter their fees. It's a matter of personal preference and opinion
 
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