John Kerry is dumb

[Randy Whorewald]

Part of his speach tonite:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

A source close to Kerry tells NBC News that he was trying to make a “tough and honest joke” about Bush and that in the process he omitted two words which changed the intended meaning. Per the source, Kerry meant to say that he can’t “overstress the importance of a great education” and that “if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy… You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” Kerry mistakenly dropped the “getting us” from his initial remarks.

I think John Kerry just destroyed his 2008 presidential ambitions (if any) that he had through this statement.

 

[sdw]

John Kerry lost the 2004 elections and now he's lost the 2006 elections. They should have stuffed a pickle (Heinz of course) into his yapper.

 

[shapeshifter]

Part of his speach tonite:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

A source close to Kerry tells NBC News that he was trying to make a “tough and honest joke” about Bush and that in the process he omitted two words which changed the intended meaning. Per the source, Kerry meant to say that he can’t “overstress the importance of a great education” and that “if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy… You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” Kerry mistakenly dropped the “getting us” from his initial remarks.

I think John Kerry just destroyed his 2008 presidential ambitions (if any) that he had through this statement.

He was never going to be elected in 2008 so moot point

 

[Randy Whorewald]

He was never going to be elected in 2008 so moot point

I think everyone knows he wouldn't be elected, however, there was some discussion that he may run.

Kerry insulted the men and women who serve in the US armed forces. And then he has the audacity to say he owes nobody an apology. That is Very Telling.

 

[gravitas]

there was some discussion that he may run

kerry running again reminds me of that avatar with the guy on the ground repeatedly getting kicked in the balls, getting kicked in the balls, getting kicked in the balls.....

 

[OTBn]

Randy, (not so) surprising that you would follow the same punk-assed Republican chickenhawk manipulation...

He's a democrat... what did you expect?

how profound - care to expand on that?

 

[BC visitor]

Is what he said wrong?

He may have meant to say someting different, but is what he said wrong? A large percentage of the men & women in Iraq are economically and educationally disadvantaged. Education is a way out - if not you end up in the military, fighting in some war...

What he said was maybe not the best comment, but it was not worng.

 

[dirtydan]

Part of his speach tonite:

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

A source close to Kerry tells NBC News that he was trying to make a “tough and honest joke” about Bush and that in the process he omitted two words which changed the intended meaning. Per the source, Kerry meant to say that he can’t “overstress the importance of a great education” and that “if you don’t study, if you aren’t smart, if you’re intellectually lazy… You end up getting us stuck in a war in Iraq.” Kerry mistakenly dropped the “getting us” from his initial remarks.

I think John Kerry just destroyed his 2008 presidential ambitions (if any) that he had through this statement.

Yet there is already a doofus in the White House that needs a Speak-n-Spell to write his speeches. How many verbal faux pas has Bush made just during his time as president? I suggest that there is a double standard when it comes to dumb things said by a Republican and a Democrat. That being the Democrat is more quickly castigated while the Republican is made fun of.

Take Howard Dean's scream. Really what the fuck was all the fuss about? Nothing. Zip. Sweet fuck all. A few pundits made some unfavourable remarks and because of the bovine mentality of the US media the sheer repetition of the Dean Scream evolved into a vicious attack on him. Meanwhile Bush has come up with things like "misunderestimated" and "suiciders" among other hachet jobs on the English language and he's popular (well enough to win two elections) by US voters.

Now all this is not to say John Kerry isn't a doofus. Looking back at his chance to become President he surely deserved the outcome. At best he had a wishy-washy position on Iraq and he seriously mishandled the meanspirited furor over his Purple Hearts.

I don't think Kerry has any kind of a chance to regain the Democrat nomination for the 08 Presidential election. IMHO the real contenders include Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, and what is his name Obama. Anyhow when all is said and done the mice that make up the US voters list will again have a choice between two cats.

 

[luckydog71]

Far be it from me to defend Kerry (I voted Bush and I would vote the same way if I had a do over).

But what Kerry said has been way over blown.... Our system is broken... now every thing ever said is available on Youtube...Blogs... or the 7 by 24 newscasters.

If you scrutinize anyone you will find something stupid...

Saying uneducated people are sent to Iraq.. Stupid and wrong.

Landing on a carrier and declaring mission accomplished .. stupid and wrong

Saying Fox was faking his symptoms... stupid and wrong

Using a slang "macaca" .... stupid...don't know what it means so right??wrong?? I don't know.

Saying "I did not have sex with that woman" stupid and wrong

Saying if Strom Thurmond would have been Pres. America would be better...stupid and wrong..


If we eliminate from politics anyone who ever in their life ever said any thing stupid, we will have no one running (just a minute I may be on to something).

Can we (and I mean Americans) forget about the distractions and talk about what is important. What do we do about Iraq? What do we do about stem cell research and cloning? What do we do about illegal immigration? What do we do about the deficit?

I do not care about what Kerry said as a joke about our soldiers and this elections is too important for anyone to base their vote on something this trivial.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Kerry strikes me as a well-educated and intelligent man, but a foolish man who is also out of touch with 95% of America.

The idiotic debacle of his wife's public presentations during the election was enough to convince me that she is only an alter-ego to his personality. It was the last straw for me in terms of believing he should be president, despite his more intelligent approach to foreign and domestic matters than our Mr. Bush.

If he's a real fool, he'll give it another try. But I agree with LD that things can be taken out of perspective all the time, and it is patently unfair to do so. Unfortunately, what was taken out of perspective on Kerry merely augments the personality he had put forth during the election.

 

[JustAGuy]

The Democrats were poised to kick butt in next week's mid-term elections, very likely winning back control of the House and possibly control of the Senate as well. All they had to do was coast to the finish line and not do anything incredibly stupid. Leave it to idiot John Kerry to throw a monkey wrench into the works by opening his mouth and letting something stupid come out, yet again.

This is not to suggest that the Democrats are some kind of wonderful alternative to the Republicans. Americans have, as always, the choice between Tweedledumb and Tweedledumber. But the notion that there might be something more than just a congressional rubber stamp in the last two years of the Bush presidency was appealing, if for no other reason than to watch the veins on Satan's .... errr, I mean Cheney's head throb wildly when he wasn't getting his way.

 

[westwoody]

Did you listen to the speech?
He was trying to say that an uneducated and intellectually lazy president got into Iraq-he was NOT talking about the people serving in Iraq. The Republicans have turned an insult to Bush into an insult against the servicemenand women.
In the proper context the meaning was clear.
How many people who are yapping about the speech actually heard it?

 

[georgebushmoron]

Did you listen to the speech?
He was trying to say that an uneducated and intellectually lazy president got into Iraq-he was NOT talking about the people serving in Iraq. The Republicans have turned an insult to Bush into an insult against the servicemenand women.
In the proper context the meaning was clear.
How many people who are yapping about the speech actually heard it?

Haha.... true to form of Republican skill at twisting and slandering! They should be renamed the "Machiavellian Party".

 

[luckydog71]

The Democrats were poised to kick butt in next week's mid-term elections, very likely winning back control of Congress and possibly control of the Senate as well.

Justaguy ..... I have heard the same predictions ... but I believe many conservatives were pissed at the GOP rather than supporting the DEMS.

But when you look at the congressional leadership if the DEMS take both houses makes us have a second thought.

Pelosi.
Kennedy
Frank
Kerry
Rangel
Conyers

The GOP is not conservative enough for me... in fact to associate GOP with conservatives is a dis-service to conservatives. I am pissed at them and I need a way to slap them, but electing the FAB 6 would hurt me more than the GOP.

 

[luckydog71]

Did you listen to the speech?
He was trying to say that an uneducated and intellectually lazy president got into Iraq-he was NOT talking about the people serving in Iraq. The Republicans have turned an insult to Bush into an insult against the servicemenand women.
In the proper context the meaning was clear.
How many people who are yapping about the speech actually heard it?

Please westwoody... we need more honest here....

This is his exact quote.... I copied and pasted this from MSNBC.

“You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.”

This is not anyone twisting Kerry's words... Kerry's words are both dumb and wrong... There is no joke here, like Kerry claims...

However I still disagree with the gotcha game played by both parties..

All Mr Kerry had to do the morning after is say....

I am sorry for what I said... It is not what I believe and I know it is not true.. I extend my unconditional apology to the brave men and women of the US military and their families....

I extend no apology to the President and the GOP. They have made dumb mistakes that have cost US lives.

Now let's focus our attention back on the real issues of this election.​

That would have ended it...

 

[westwoody]

I copied and pasted this from MSNBC.

My point exactly, you are cutting and pasting from MSNBC. Did you listen to the speech or not? The thirty second sound bite or at least a couple of minutes?

I just wanted to add something. Kerry isn't even running so why pay so much attention to what he is saying, there are more important things to talk about...
I'm sick and tired of hearing about Belinda and Peter, these idiots are running my country and they sit in Parliament looking after my interests. Yet they act like four year olds, badly-behaved ones at that! Watching the relevant Question Period was sickening, and it's EVERYONE who is acting like an idiot, no party is exempt. Instead of making a worthwhile point some Reform jackass yells "Tell your girlfriend to shut up!" Wow is that ever mature. I couldn't make out Peter's response but it was probably about what you'd expect from an eight year old. The Speaker should come down hard on this crap, it's not a joke, it's not partisan politics, it's just a bunch of self indulgent assholes wasting my money instead of doing their job. Now we have the US getting sidetracked as well. Maybe instead of trying to play politics and be smartasses our elected leaders could demonstrate that they are worthy of their responsibility and act like adults for a change.
Rant over, I can't even discuss this rationally it makes me so mad.

 

[JustAGuy]

Justaguy ..... I have heard the same predictions ... but I believe many conservatives were pissed at the GOP rather than supporting the DEMS.

The Democrats weren't counting on Republicans suddenly voting in droves for the other party but rather that they'd be pissed off enough to stay home and not vote at all, ld. The Foley page scandal has alienated many in the evangelical wing of the Republican party and it was thought that large numbers of them would give the election a pass, letting the Democrats win seats by simply being able to turn out their supporters in bigger numbers.

The Republicans are doing everything they can to try and shift the focus away from an unpopular president and an increasingly unpopular war. Kerry's speech has given them the opening they've been looking for and, as westwoody correctly points out, they have twisted his feeble attempt at a joke aimed at Bush into some kind of insult to the troops serving in Iraq. What Kerry said is less important than what the spin-meisters of the Republican party are trying to make sure he's perceived as having said.

 

[luckydog71]

My point exactly, you are cutting and pasting from MSNBC. Did you listen to the speech or not? The thirty second sound bite or at least a couple of minutes?

I listen to an extend sound bite, but not the entire speach... He told a few jokes before he started talking about education and the jokes were aimed at Bush... I heard the jokes but to be honest I could not quote them...

But no one is twisting what he said...be smart or you will be stuck in Iraq. If that is a joke I do not get it. I do not think being sent to Iraq is a joking matter...

So why did he come out the next day and say ... I will apologize to no one... that was even dumber than the stupid joke...

Now if he meant to say... study hard..be smart or who will be stuck in Washington DC.. now that would be funny... I don't think Bush had a very high grade point average at Yale... But I do know that Kerry's grade point average was lower than Bush's.. which shows you were the stupid people wind up and it is not in Iraq....

 

[luckydog71]

The Democrats weren't counting on Republicans suddenly voting in droves for the other party but rather that they'd be pissed off enough to stay home and not vote at all, ld.

That I agree with. Until a week ago that is exactly what I was going to do NOT VOTE. That would show those SOBs. Kick them in the nuts and then they might listen.

It wasn't Foley that pissed me off so I would not vote. It was illegal immigration... It was the deficit and the debt... It was their intrusion into the gay marriage discussion....


In Washington state all voting is done by mail. There are no polling stations. So I have already voted. It wasn't Kerry that got me to vote... I still think the Kerry statement regardless of what he meant is irrelevant.... I just got scared of a Pelosi / Reid led congress..

 

[Sonny]

Kerry strikes me as a well-educated and intelligent man

You are joking, of course. Maybe well-educated in the American sense of the word, perhaps politically knowledgeable, but certainly not intelligent or he wouldn't be that stupid. Of course, folks who think they are so intelligent neglect to prepare adequately for a public presentation, believing in their own infallibility and the complete stupidity of everyone else.

In spite of Kerry, the Dems will win control of Congress, even though they do not appear to have much to offer. It's just that Americans are sickened by what the Reps have done (and not done) for the past six years.