Jimmy Carter's Cash Links to Arab Terrorists

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To understand what feeds former president Jimmy Carter's anti-Israeli frenzy, look at his early links to Arab business.

A quick survey of the major contributors to the Carter Center reveals hundreds of millions of dollars from Saudi and Gulf contributors. But it was BCCI that helped Mr. Carter established his center.

BCCI's origins were primarily ideological. Abedi wanted the bank to reflect the supra-national Muslim credo and "the best bridge to help the world of Islam, and the best way to fight the evil influence of the Zionists."

Shortly after assuming office, in March 1977, Mr. Carter made his first public statement regarding a Palestinian "homeland." Since then, he has devoted much of his time to denouncing Israel's self-defense against Palestinian terrorism, which he claims is not only "abominable oppression and persecution" of the Palestinians, but also damages U.S. interests in the region.

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http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20061220-092736-3365r.htm
 

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What is your point?

I really don't know what you are tring to say here .. Evey president in the last 30 yrs . has links to arab money .. be it Irac ..Iran.. Egypt..Syria.. Saudi.. and it goes on and on . they have the money .. and they got it from the big american oil companies.
Yes Carter has been for the Palistinians.. and a home land for them .. because he want peace for peace sake... but he does regonise that Israel is no angel... as for debaiting jews and musloms and the roll of christianity in this all ,I am not in to debating that .. everyones oppinion on it is right and mine is wrong .. according to them any ways.. so where does that leave use to find an answer to the problems of the world let a lone the Plalistin amd Israel question
I allways thought Carter was one of the most honest presidented the US had .. O course i think he lied to him self as to how easy it would be to solve the worlds problems .. as President.
 

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Randy Whorewald said:
...Israel's self-defense against Palestinian terrorism...
terrorism. interesting choice of terms. what are their other options?

throwing stones at tanks.
Israel is militarily supplied by Uncle Sam.
no other country in the world will support the Palestinian cause.
they're smart enough to know better
after what happened to Saddam.
 

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maxx50 said:
I really don't know what you are tring to say here .. Evey president in the last 30 yrs . has links to arab money .. be it Irac ..Iran.. Egypt..Syria.. Saudi.. and it goes on and on .
Bush may be an idiot and while I will agree to some extent with your comment, neither Bush nor any other prez have come out against Israel the way Carter has, it negates your view that they have all been influenced by Arab money. Also, this thread is about Jimmy Carter, not every president in the last 30 years. Carter even wrote an anti Israeli book.
 

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We can say something agaist Israel . I how.

RW are you refering to Carters book .."Palestine; peace not aparteid"
 

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maxx50 said:
RW are you refering to Carters book .."Palestine; peace not aparteid"
Yep - Thats the one where Jimmy slaps the Israelis with the Aparteid tag.
 

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LOve not war

THat is what Carter believes in .. and he does every thing he can to point out to the world that some thing is not right there in the mideast
THey seem to have the fucking each other in the ass down pat.. but the love part . nada And when some one tries to point that out then they try to srew him in the ass also..
Aparteid.. " segragating a definable race or culture in to a reserve .. or home land .."( from Maxx50 dic.). Of course it is not just Israel that is guilty of doing that but all the boardering arab mideast countries .. they have be treating the Palestine's as lepers.. considering this was called Pllestine.. That is the area of Israel..and Jordan..... You can debate that it was the promisted land .. promisted to the Jew.. by God .. but the area has been in,but more out of there control for the last 5000 yrs..
But of course we are now dealing with the here and now .. Well right now we have a situation there that looks like Aparteid... and a few years before that we had something that looked like a consentration camp.. where they had keep the Palestine's for over 45 Yrs..
Shame on Israel .. they should know better... And i think that Carter is right in tring to point that out... the world is not really that blind ... only the west .. when it come to oil.
 
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Israel's origins are terrorism. Most of their leaders are ex-terrorists. They say "Never Again", yet fail to consider that they are doing it over and over again to the Palestinians (albeit much more slowly).

I'm no fan of the Palestinian terrorists but if there is a particular victim in this story, it is the common man/woman/child in Palestine and Lebanon.

And for the record: I have some Jewish ancestry and a substantial number of one side of my family perished in Nazi concentration camps. To the best of my knowledge, I have no Palestinian ancestors, though with all the conquests, pillaging and rape in human history, who can really be sure.
 

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The linked article is an op-ed piece.

Notwithstanding that Carter has neither hidden or denied the contributions to the Carter Center, any of his opposition, naturally, has a vested interest. Recognizing that vested interest is key in helping to decipher whether Carter's stated views, in balance, might be compromised or diminished in relevance.


The articles author is Rachel Ehrenfeld - director of the American Center for Democracy (ACD) that includes two ACD fellows with close links to the Israeli government: retired Col. Jonathan Dahoah Halevi of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), and Ilan Weinglass. From 1998 to 2002, Halevi directed the Palestinian Research Branch in the Intelligence Unit of the IDF, after which he became head of the information branch in the IDF Spokesperson Unit. He then moved over to the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, where he was senior adviser for policy planning. In addition to being an ACD fellow, Halevi serves as director of research at the Orient Research Group and is a board member of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs. Halevi also consults on Middle East and Arab affairs for the Wall Street Journal. Weinglass was the head of research for the Israeli Trade Ministry's Investment Promotion Center from 1999 to 2001.

Other ACD fellows include Alyssa A. Lappen, a freelance journalist who has written for the neoconservative FrontPageMag.com, and Marc Shulman, “who prepared the initial research for the trillion dollar lawsuit against the Saudi royal family on behalf of the families of 9/11 victims” and is a “specialist in Islamist financing and investments.”

The ACD links to various other institutes, organizations, and sites from its website, including the Ariel Center for Policy Research, the Center for Advanced Middle East Studies, the Islam Quest Blog, and One Jerusalem.

ACD's advisory board includes neoconservative strategists Richard Perle, William Van Cleave, and James Woolsey.
 

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Let's get to the real issue.

America is not a true democracy - it's a republic.

There are more lobbyists in the states than you can shake a stick at.

America is run by lobbyists and corporate interests.

Every few years Americans have a dog and pony show (called elections) which costs millions of dollars to run. Where we get to elect idiots like George Bush.

Politicians will take money from anyone, say anything and pretty well promise the world to anyone who will listen to get elected. ie: Jean Cretian I will scrap the gst.

Until people smarten up and demand a true democracy, things will never change. (one of the few true democracys is Swizterland) Our system of gov't is out dated and doesn't reflect the realities of today.

Better communication
Better access to information for the masses
Better education
Better technology

Our gov't (and the US's) is set up to control outcomes. The party leader says vote this way, and party members vote the party line.

We have no democracy, just the right to suffrage every 4 yrs.
 

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chilli said:
Let's get to the real issue.
America is not a true democracy - it's a republic.
There are more lobbyists in the states than you can shake a stick at.
America is run by lobbyists and corporate interests.
Every few years Americans have a dog and pony show (called elections) which costs millions of dollars to run. Where we get to elect idiots like George Bush.
Politicians will take money from anyone, say anything and pretty well promise the world to anyone who will listen to get elected. ie: Jean Cretian I will scrap the gst.
Until people smarten up and demand a true democracy, things will never change. (one of the few true democracys is Swizterland) Our system of gov't is out dated and doesn't reflect the realities of today.
Better communication
Better access to information for the masses
Better education
Better technology
Our gov't (and the US's) is set up to control outcomes. The party leader says vote this way, and party members vote the party line.
We have no democracy, just the right to suffrage every 4 yrs.
I agree with everything you say, chili. The one tiny way in which the Canadian system is better than the American system is that by having multiple parties we are periodically in the position of having a minority government, just as we do right now. The party in power in this scenario needs to watch its p's and q's because it can fall at any time. Therefore not that much gets done, either good or bad. Since most of what government does is bad anyway, it's a good thing to have a hamstrung government, in my opinion. Watching the Harper government actually acknowledge in recent days that perhaps paying some attention to the environment is a good thing, when I have no doubt that few elected Conservatives believe global warming is anything but a socialist anti-business myth, is an example of the delicate tippy-toeing a minority government has to do.

The American system has built in checks and balances but in recent decades, more and more of the power seems to be slowly moving away from the judicial branch and legislative branch and towards the executive branch. That's certainly been particularly evident during the Bush administration which seems to be using 9/11 as an opportunity to consolidate executive power. Just yesterday I saw on the news where they are making the case that the government has the right to open the mail of any private citizen without a search warrant. Naturally their rationale is "preventing terrorism" Unbelievable!

The glaring shortcoming of a two party system, and what makes our system preferable, is when one party has control of the executive branch and legislative branch, as has been the case in recent years with the Republicans in control of the presidency and both the House and the Senate. In this scenario the party in power can ram through really dubious legislation (for instance The Patriot Act) that it's likely the majority of citizens do not favor enacting but there's no mechanism by which the government can be held accountable (i.e. fall) until the mid-term elections and the next presidential election.
 

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nuke it

Seriously, bomb the whole area...irradiate the whole goddamn Middle East, wait 25,000 years until it cools off and then start again.
 

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Ilovethemall said:
Seriously, bomb the whole area...irradiate the whole goddamn Middle East, wait 25,000 years until it cools off and then start again.
If Iran gets the bomb, this is just what might happen.
 

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works for me

What the hell.....Imadiphsitdinajad will nuke Israel and then Israel will nuke Iran, Syria will jump in and get nuked for being idiots and the Palestinians will die from the fallout.

Let's start shipping weapons grade plutonium tomorrow!
 
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