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This goes into all of the less well known connections who have been involved with Epstein over the years, including the woman who groomed and trained the girls for Pedo Island and the father of US attorney general William Barr and the mysterious fires on Pedo Island when the heat was being put on Epstein. Can be tough slogging at times but still interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vc-uysS6Tlw
 

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This goes into all of the less well known connections who have been involved with Epstein over the years, including the woman who groomed and trained the girls for Pedo Island and the father of US attorney general William Barr and the mysterious fires on Pedo Island when the heat was being put on Epstein. Can be tough slogging at times but still interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/Vc-uysS6Tlw
That site is a taxt-book case of loony conspiracy theories.

There may be some connections to Epstein over the years, but tying them into one convenient bundle to make a case doesn't necessarily mean anything.

One example - the tail number of his plane. That seems to be a fabrication. There is no record of that number belonging to anything other than his private jet.
 

Hugh Jass

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That site is a taxt-book case of loony conspiracy theories.

There may be some connections to Epstein over the years, but tying them into one convenient bundle to make a case doesn't necessarily mean anything.

One example - the tail number of his plane. That seems to be a fabrication. There is no record of that number belonging to anything other than his private jet.
Im not familiar with the site but I will take your word for it. You could well be correct. Just thought I would put it out and let people make up their own minds.
 

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A bit of perspective for guys who rant about women not reporting abuse.

We had a guy where I work who was a binge drinker. He would get all touchy-feely with one particular woman. She was not attractive and he liked mocking her and insulting her. several people had complained on her behalf but she herself was scared of him and would not say anything.
Also some other douchebag guys would say he was just joking around and tell her she would be a bitch to complain.
Finally he grabbed her ass right in front of a senior manager who is also female. BANG out the fucking door.
Now some of his fellow assholes are harassing his victim. They tell her that she is to blame for him losing his job. They say she did it for attention.
Yeah it is infuriating and I would love to slap them.
I think the same thing when I see jackasses here going on about women not coming forward.
These guys are idiots who cannot see anything but their own ignorant selfish point of view.
 

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Virtue signalling, but what have you done where you can actually have an influence, for the woman where you work, other than, "...I would love to slap them."
 

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Google X22 Report Spotlight and his interview with Dr. Dave Janda. In his opinion Epstein was an intelligent asset that people higher up used to blackmail billionaires, politicians, actors, etc.
 

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Virtue signalling, but what have you done where you can actually have an influence, for the woman where you work, other than, "...I would love to slap them."
I have to follow rules and the law.
We made a paper trail to document his behaviour and our attempts to help and discipline him. We got rid of him, but it took time. He may still go to an arbitrator or human rights, but the physical contact sealed it in my opinion.

Tell me what else I could have done.
 

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Hopefully seeing his exit will be a sign.
Interestingly the problems are all with guys in their fifties. It must be a generational thing. Zero issues with younger guys.
Same with a few gay guys, nobody cares whether someone is lgbt except for the older guys.
 

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You had said. A senior manager was involved for “out the door”. Sit down with the manager and bring up workplace harassment and they will have to address the situation as a blanket problem, not to single out anyone. Then from there, discipline should start for offenders.
People have the right to feel safe at work, at all times...
This. I wasn't referring to the guy who got the boot, but the ongoing harrassment from his supposed supporters.

If you haven't brought this up with a manager, you should.
 

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Is Jeffrey Epstein a foreign asset?

Good article! I also find it interesting that Alex Acosta is taking a lot of the blame for the plea deal, but Acosta mentioned at his confirmation hearing to be sworn in as Labor Secretary “that he was told to leave Epstein alone because he belonged to Intelligence.” What has not been mentioned is that the FBI Director at the time that ultimately oversaw the plea deal was Robert Mueller. You know, the same Robert Mueller that is
going to appear in front of Congress tomorrow to talk about the Russia investigation.
 

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Good article! I also find it interesting that Alex Acosta is taking a lot of the blame for the plea deal, but Acosta mentioned at his confirmation hearing to be sworn in as Labor Secretary “that he was told to leave Epstein alone because he belonged to Intelligence.” What has not been mentioned is that the FBI Director at the time that ultimately oversaw the plea deal was Robert Mueller. You know, the same Robert Mueller that is
going to appear in front of Congress tomorrow to talk about the Russia investigation.
Robert Mueller was berated this morning on a radio commentary for going beyond prosecutorial etiquette to include 180 pages on what Trump was not exonorated on. That while Trump isn't above the law, Mueller's report put Trump below the law. Robert Mueller needs to explain what he knows about Epstein belonging to intelligence.
 

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Robert Mueller was berated this morning on a radio commentary for going beyond prosecutorial etiquette to include 180 pages on what Trump was not exonorated on. That while Trump isn't above the law, Mueller's report put Trump below the law. Robert Mueller needs to explain what he knows about Epstein belonging to intelligence.
I watched the whole Mueller hearing today, and it seemed odd to me that for a guy that wrote the report, he sure didn’t seem to know a lot about what was in it. Maybe it was because he was caught by surprise, and shouldn't have really been up there anyway, or somebody else wrote it for him? Nonetheless a complete disaster for the Democrats who were hoping for a Hail Mary to finally impeach Trump.

I agree with you, Mueller should be answering questions about his role as the FBI Director in the Epstein plea bargain.
 

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Robert Mueller was berated this morning on a radio commentary for going beyond prosecutorial etiquette to include 180 pages on what Trump was not exonorated on. That while Trump isn't above the law, Mueller's report put Trump below the law. Robert Mueller needs to explain what he knows about Epstein belonging to intelligence.
I was also disappointed with the Republican members that did not bring up any questions about the DNC server that was supposedly hacked by the Russians. They should have asked "why the FBI didn't investigate this?, why didn't the Special Counsel ever verify the claim by the DNC that it was the Russians that hacked into it? Why didn't they ask about Julian Assange's information that they are trying muzzle? Assange's claim is that the DNC hack came from a disgruntled democrat that was pissed off at the way the DNC treated Bernie Sanders, namely Seth Rich, who later turned up dead. The Republican members on that committee completely dropped the ball by not asking these questions. Because this is what started the whole 3 years of this fake investigation and waste of time.
 

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I was also disappointed with the Republican members that did not bring up any questions about the DNC server that was supposedly hacked by the Russians. They should have asked "why the FBI didn't investigate this?, why didn't the Special Counsel ever verify the claim by the DNC that it was the Russians that hacked into it? Why didn't they ask about Julian Assange's information that they are trying muzzle? Assange's claim is that the DNC hack came from a disgruntled democrat that was pissed off at the way the DNC treated Bernie Sanders, namely Seth Rich, who later turned up dead. The Republican members on that committee completely dropped the ball by not asking these questions. Because this is what started the whole 3 years of this fake investigation and waste of time.
Would have made no difference. Mueller simply refused to answer any questions that mattered.
 

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Would have made no difference. Mueller simply refused to answer any questions that mattered.
The DOJ letter specifically stated stay within the scope of the 448 page report.

Why would he entertain any of the conspiracy theories touted to cloud the issues of Obstruction and Conspiracy?
 

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Would have made no difference. Mueller simply refused to answer any questions that mattered.
In Mueller’s opening statement he said “he agreed to serve as Special Counsel because he thought it was of paramount interest to the nation to determine whether a foreign adversary interfered in the presidential election.” The first question that should have been asked by somebody is “for something that was such an important national security issue whether the FBI was notified to do an investigation?” It doesn’t mean that Mueller would answer, but at least it goes into the public record.
 
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