http://ipolitics.ca/2017/10/01/jagmeet-singh-wins-ndp-leadership-race/
Wasn't even close...he even speaks French!
Wasn't even close...he even speaks French!
Jagmeet Singh is the new leader of the federal NDP
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I voted for jt last federal election because I wanted harpo out.
But jt is not that diffrent than the cons he replaced, I'm gonna take good look at this dude in a few years
You nailed it right on the head....come next election the Leftists will have a SPLIT vote....and hopefully it results with a Conservative government.
That "run in" you refer to....well only half of the FACTS were reported by the Left Wing Canadian Media.....the gal who was asking a hard question got drummed out and was labelled a "racist" because she asked Jagmeet Singh if he supported Sharia Law....he of course ducked the question and the loud BS Leftist media response was to portray the gal as a "racist".
When it comes down to it the leader of the NDP Federally just does not matter....there is no fucking way they will ever get elected in even a Minority Government.When the NDP under Layton got 15 more seats with that pussywimp Dion at the helm the NDP thought of themselves as "kingmakers"....that did not work out though as the Conservatives under Harper said "no FUCKING way".....next election under the Lieberals under Ignatieff and the NDP gained more ground under Layton....last election though was Angry Tom with his fake smile and bullshit chuckle for the NDP with Justine Trudeau and at the same time the ENTIRE LEFT wing media in Canada trashing Harper in every way they could but at the same time glossing over or ignoring the Lieberal pigs at the trough.....how much attention or investigation was done by the CBC into the expence claims of Mac Harb....the money he claimed was more than Brazeau/Duffy/Wallin COMBINED.
I am all in favour of Jagmeet Singh winning the NDP leadership....it just adds more spice to the pot for the Left Wing vote split.
SR
Take a look at the Defecit spending under Trudeau.....30 BILLION added to the National DEBT for 2017.....If you wanted a fiscal Consevative gone to replaced by a selfie obsessed fancy sock wearing idiot who has lived the life of a tax dodging millionare before he got into politics and has coasted along via name recognition.....
SR
That would be too bad since democracy is supposed to represent the will of the majority and the Conservatives do not. Hopefully if the Liberals see a losing proposition coming next election they will revisit their "promise" of proportional representation. Yeah, pipe dream I know, but it would be refreshing to see them stick to the promise that got them elected.
Apparently, some of the folks here cannot talk about politics without getting so worked up they resort to name calling or calls for violence, even in jest. I have culled the posts from the thread, but fair warning, if this slips back there again, it will be closed and those responsible will have some time off to reconsider their actions. We are trying to make this place friendly and fun. If you can't disagree or debate in a civil manner, then don't post at all. thanks
You must be having nightmares. I was gonna say you must be dreaming but that is obviously not the case here.
A working class guy who votes for a Harper gov't?. Same reason Harpo got in, he copy catted exactly what
G. Bush did to get re-elected. Went after the "Christian right wing zealot" Religionists. As I call them.
And guess what? It worked. That Asshole Harper looked like nothing more than a bloated overweight Pastor
with a plastic hairdo.
Personally I'd love to see the NDP get in anytime federally just so I can have a laugh at SR's ranting and
blowing a gasket over that very fact if they do get in. LOL!!
........................QM'r
Yet one of the most conservative cities in Canada is run by a Muslim (Calgary). On top of that Sikhs actually have a decent presence in the Canadian government, with 20 Sikh MPs, 4 which are in the cabinet of the PM, such as the most well know Harjit Sajjan, the Minister of Defense. Times 'a changin', his biggest draw back is his party, which won't win a majority regardless of who they put in power, not his ancestry.
I dont believe you actually said that.....that you would want the Commie nutbar leftwing NDP to FORM/WIN a Federal Government.Choose ANY Province you want where the NDP have been elected and show me a POSITVE result vis-a-vis the policies of the NDP.No matter which Province they have Governed they ran it into the ground.Manitoba/Saskatchewan/Ontario/BC....sadly Alberta and now BC again which BTW the Horgan lead NDP started off the mark with a financial SURPLUS as updated in the last month....watch that vanish come the first full budget in the Spring and just try to get Freedom Of Information Requests about the spending as a tax payer....oh and just for all of the Cronyism to start....it took all of a a fortnight for Notley to do it...hell she sandbagged her own Energy Minister when Notley hired every single Chief of Staff for her entire Cabinet and none of the Ministers knew about it.
As for labelling me as a "Christian Right Wing Zealot" I resent that.Yes I did in the first 5 years of my education attend a Catholic school and then I got shifted into the Public Education System and it was a lot worse education wise as well as with regards to Social Engineering.I may have attended Catholic School but I did not buy into the idea of organised religion in general.I consider myself a small C conservative in that I want responsible Government with as little of Bureaucracy as possible.Personally when it comes to the subject that is cast by the intolerant Left which is abortion I am FIRMLY in the camp of Pro Choice....it is a womans body and her decision and ANYBODY that wants to shame/obstruct/feel outraged etc about a womans choice should be FLOGGED.
Back to the topic at hand though....if you would happily see the NDP elected to RUN the Federal Government and thusly run it into the ground as they legislate the LEAP Manifesto and put that sufferance unto ALL Canadians just to get a laugh at ME....well all I can say is you have a sadistic streak FAR wider than I have and I was the youngest of 3 brothers and both of the older ones were VERY sadistic......cant believe you would WISH/ENCOURAGE and even CHEER for the entire population of Canada to suffer under the yoke of Socialist Tyranny that a Federal NDP Government would bring......that just FUCKS my mind.
SR
@storm rider
This is not meant to be inflammatory or ad hominem, but I’d just like to suggest that calling a leftist social party like the NDP a “Commie nutbar” party really doesn’t jibe with the image of an open minded “small c conservative”.
This is not meant to be inflammatory or ad hominem, but I’d just like to suggest that calling a leftist social party like the NDP a “Commie nutbar” party really doesn’t jibe with the image of an open minded “small c conservative”.
Surely then, you and I are on the opposite sides of the political table. You stay on yours and I'll stay on mine.
I never accused YOU personally of being a religious right wing zealot. I take offense to that my friend.
Btw dude, and tell me this. If the CONS which they are by name and I mean CONS. The lot of those jerk offs should be
in the slammer. Why in hell did the Albertan population TOTALLY disagree with you and their political rhetoric only
to vote in an NDP party in your very province.
Don't you think the majority got sick enough of the Cons? I do and the majority of the Albertan population as well
because obviously they are not in power now.
Are they?
Also and for the next couple of years don't go blaming the NDP because the economy is no friggin good in Alberta
because of the NDP. That province's majority of its economic growth is generated by what the price of oil is.
The NDP nor the CONS or the LIBS dictate that value. DO THEY?
Our economy here is doing rather well. Only because of the thieving Liberals taking a billion dollars or more of our money
to feed her cronie corporate ass kissers. So don't give me that crap about the NDP being a bunch of commies.
The Libs have them beat hands down and now the fucking tax payers have to cough up for that one.
You think the NDP is bad, your first paragraph totally outlines what the NDP has inherited and DEAL with from
those Thieving god damn Liberals. Not even a Harpo gov't can repair that damage man.
The Tax payer is going to get it in the ass to fix that mess and unfortunately just like what happened in alberta
an NDP gov't always get's in afterward and are made the joe boy as it were because of the simple
fact of WHAT THEY INHERITED....... And the simple minded voter will again blame the NDP , like you always seem
to do, because of their short memories on what the NDP was inherited to FIX!!!!!!!!
It also appears from your statement that you didn't vote with an open unvetted religious mind when
you voted for the CONS.
Looks like as I stated you voted with your religious right wing thinking. So be it. I rest my case.
If you think you are going to get responsible Government with as little Bureaucracy as possible from religiously
motivated politicians you are sorely mistaken. Those religious zealot leaders are Christians first.
Politicians LAST. Haven't you ever heard that politics and religion should never mix the two?
Because if you do, you have in the truest sense, COMMUNISM my friend.
Preaching an agenda on it's own is one thing. To do it from a religious standpoint is
totally another. You can not have unfailing gov't with as little bureaucracy as possible
when they are telling the masses that abortion will be abolished and we do not have the
right to decide for ourselves. Sounds more than a little Marxist Lenonist if you ask me bud.
You better rethink your thinking. BTW, I am NOT PRO CHOICE.
Abortion is MURDER. Plain and simple regardless of the reasons to do it.
What right do we have to rip an unprotected fetus from the womb. The only god damn thing I
agree with from the Harpo Gov't.
If life circumstances don't allow for a girl to raise a child there is always adoption.
.........................QM'r
Well said clu. Lol! kinda like the fact I'd rather die than vote in a Conservative party or United con party
except for the fact that I am anti abortion all the way. The one conservative policy I agree with.
Which reminds me. United with who? :lol: The Liberals in name only?
........................QM'r
I may not ever vote for him but I would before I voted for Pretty Boy and I guarantee you a lot of people who voted for Trudeau last time will vote for him.
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/03/singh-is-now-a-big-headache-for-trudeau
"Compared to Trudeau, he is younger (38 rather than 45), smarter, at least as well-dressed and even more of a trendy, politically correct symbol."
Love this line but then again my cat is smarter than Trudeau.
Cheers
J
http://www.winnipegsun.com/2017/10/03/singh-is-now-a-big-headache-for-trudeau
"Compared to Trudeau, he is younger (38 rather than 45), smarter, at least as well-dressed and even more of a trendy, politically correct symbol."
Love this line but then again my cat is smarter than Trudeau.
Cheers
J
The current Conservative party is basically a coalition, it's the Progressive Conservatives and the Reform that united in that case, although the Progressive Conservatives threw away their principles to do it.
This is what I mean by the current Conservatives don't represent the majority. It took a coalition to even get them back in play. If the Liberals and NDP united (about as aligned as the PC and Reform were) they'd have a clear majority.
I like that we're not a two party system but with the right united and the "left" not, vote splitting gives us a government that's out of alignment with the will of the majority. Our democracy is broken. ("Left" in quotes because the Liberals are really centrist, not left.)
BTW in my adult life I have voted for Progressive Conservative, Liberal, and even NDP depending on the circumstances, so I wouldn't say I'm dogmatic. (Granted I'll never vote Reform and the current Conservatives are more Reform than PC.)
Surely then, you and I are on the opposite sides of the political table. You stay on yours and I'll stay on mine.
I never accused YOU personally of being a religious right wing zealot. I take offense to that my friend.
Btw dude, and tell me this. If the CONS which they are by name and I mean CONS. The lot of those jerk offs should be
in the slammer. Why in hell did the Albertan population TOTALLY disagree with you and their political rhetoric only
to vote in an NDP party in your very province.
You and I are on the opposite end of the political spectrum....you are obviously a Socialist.....and I am NOT.
With regards to the election of the NDP in Alberta I guess you just dont look at the whole picture and you are not on the frequency.The NDP got elected in Alberta because of a combination of 2 things.The first was a vote split between the Wildrose and the PC's and the second little factoid was the HUGE amount of votes the NDP got via a PROTEST VOTE gone wrong.In every riding in Alberta be it a city riding or rural the NDP WON by the thinnest of margins.In every riding that was one by the Wildrose it was WON by large margins.In every riding the NDP won the Wildrose and PC's SPLIT the vote damn near down the middle.At the same time the "protest vote" gone wrong was not only triggered by Jim Prentiss saying "Look in the mirror" it also had a lot of anger from how the Red Queen Alison Redford did things.From being a pig at the trough very blatantly as well as acting like she was Queen of Alberta.....and then when she resigned she cried on the steps of the Legislature.
The ONE thing you just dont consider or even think about is the SPITE vote......that Albertans voted for the NDP out of SPITE/ANGER/HATRED and so on.They did not VOTE for the NDP because they believed or endorsed the NDP's filthy Socialist doctrine.....they VOTED for them out of sheer SPITE.....sadly far too many of them did and the next day they all collectively gave themselves a smack to their heads and said outloud "WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO?"
Alberta has gone from when Ralph Klein was in charge and we were debt free and giving out bonus checks to Ed Stelmach and his dodgy governance and then to Queen Redford and her pandering to the Teachers Union with a Pension prop up of 2 Billion and then to the NDP who have run the Province into the ground and has accumulated 40+ BILLION in DEBT with no plan to pay it off....and at the same time the NDP cronyism has been off the scale.
Come 2019 the NDP wont get the benefit of a vote split and they sure as fuck wont get a fucked up protest vote gone wrong....they will be kicked to the gutter where they belong.
SR
I never accused YOU personally of being a religious right wing zealot. I take offense to that my friend.
Btw dude, and tell me this. If the CONS which they are by name and I mean CONS. The lot of those jerk offs should be
in the slammer. Why in hell did the Albertan population TOTALLY disagree with you and their political rhetoric only
to vote in an NDP party in your very province.
You and I are on the opposite end of the political spectrum....you are obviously a Socialist.....and I am NOT.
With regards to the election of the NDP in Alberta I guess you just dont look at the whole picture and you are not on the frequency.The NDP got elected in Alberta because of a combination of 2 things.The first was a vote split between the Wildrose and the PC's and the second little factoid was the HUGE amount of votes the NDP got via a PROTEST VOTE gone wrong.In every riding in Alberta be it a city riding or rural the NDP WON by the thinnest of margins.In every riding that was one by the Wildrose it was WON by large margins.In every riding the NDP won the Wildrose and PC's SPLIT the vote damn near down the middle.At the same time the "protest vote" gone wrong was not only triggered by Jim Prentiss saying "Look in the mirror" it also had a lot of anger from how the Red Queen Alison Redford did things.From being a pig at the trough very blatantly as well as acting like she was Queen of Alberta.....and then when she resigned she cried on the steps of the Legislature.
The ONE thing you just dont consider or even think about is the SPITE vote......that Albertans voted for the NDP out of SPITE/ANGER/HATRED and so on.They did not VOTE for the NDP because they believed or endorsed the NDP's filthy Socialist doctrine.....they VOTED for them out of sheer SPITE.....sadly far too many of them did and the next day they all collectively gave themselves a smack to their heads and said outloud "WHAT THE FUCK DID I DO?"
Alberta has gone from when Ralph Klein was in charge and we were debt free and giving out bonus checks to Ed Stelmach and his dodgy governance and then to Queen Redford and her pandering to the Teachers Union with a Pension prop up of 2 Billion and then to the NDP who have run the Province into the ground and has accumulated 40+ BILLION in DEBT with no plan to pay it off....and at the same time the NDP cronyism has been off the scale.
Come 2019 the NDP wont get the benefit of a vote split and they sure as fuck wont get a fucked up protest vote gone wrong....they will be kicked to the gutter where they belong.
SR
Why do you insist the election of the NDP was a protest vote, and not an actual vote for change? Is there evidence for this, other than anecdotal evidence? From what I gather, people were fed up of the corruption and arrogance of the PC's. Same as BC wanting a change from Christy Clark.
