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"Sexual relationships that involve the exchange of money cannot be considered adultery, according to a Tokyo District Court ruling involving a couple and a bar hostess.

The verdict finalized in 2014 is stirring controversy among Japan's legal experts, The Japan Times reported Wednesday. No damages were rewarded to the plaintiff – the wife of a man who was allegedly sleeping with a hostess for more than seven years."

Yup, a man might still very much love his wife, but if the lust has faded, it is biological for him to spread seeds to fertilize eggs for reproduction. So I do not view paying (no strings) as a type of an affair. It's a form of sublimation freeing the built up lust, fantasy and desire, as well as a normal primitive, human need.
 

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Of course it is adultery. Whether you pay for it or not doesn't change that.

My guess is that the judge who made that ruling may be an adulterer themselves, and are really protecting their own backsides ;)
 

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Of course it is adultery. Whether you pay for it or not doesn't change that.

My guess is that the judge who made that ruling may be an adulterer themselves, and are really protecting their own backsides ;)
So you are saying there is a difference between church and state? Man's Laws and God's Law
I'll be Damned. No really I will be damned. I was hoping that Japan's ruling exonerates me and my slate was clean for the pearly gates of heaven.:rolleyes:
 

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ADULTERY is a social construct based upon a Judeo-Christian tradition. The one man/one woman schtick is from the Old Testament. If you don't believe in living your life in accordance with Old Testament law, you don't have to sweat it!
 

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ADULTERY is a social construct based upon a Judeo-Christian tradition. The one man/one woman schtick is from the Old Testament. If you don't believe in living your life in accordance with Old Testament law, you don't have to sweat it!
Old Testament law reflects a patriarchal definition of adultery: at the time, another man's wife is off limits but that's it. There are cases of multiple wives by pious people in the OT. (Bonus tidbit: Leviticus says a man should not lay with another man as he would a woman, but doesn't restrict women equivalently, so even in a strictly traditional and literal reading, the Bible is actually fine with lesbians.)

Not that I'm using this to justify anything. I just find it fun to point out to people who cite the Bible on such things. :)
 

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Old Testament law reflects a patriarchal definition of adultery: at the time, another man's wife is off limits but that's it. There are cases of multiple wives by pious people in the OT. (Bonus tidbit: Leviticus says a man should not lay with another man as he would a woman, but doesn't restrict women equivalently, so even in a strictly traditional and literal reading, the Bible is actually fine with lesbians.)

Not that I'm using this to justify anything. I just find it fun to point out to people who cite the Bible on such things. :)
Still a social (societal) construct though.
 

clu

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Still a social (societal) construct though.
No arguments from me. I more posted that as ammunition for anyone who might find themselves talking to a Biblical literalist. They often say if the Bible doesn't make sense to you it's because you're not reading it correctly. Well this is what reading it correctly gets you.
 

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I could care less about Old Testament, New Testament or Future Testament
therefore I've never believed in the concept of adultery.
 

Ms Erica Phoenix

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No arguments from me. I more posted that as ammunition for anyone who might find themselves talking to a Biblical literalist. They often say if the Bible doesn't make sense to you it's because you're not reading it correctly. Well this is what reading it correctly gets you.
I try to avoid talking to Biblical literalists! :eek!:

Love,
The Whore of Fleetwood
 

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ADULTERY is a social construct based upon a Judeo-Christian tradition. The one man/one woman schtick is from the Old Testament. If you don't believe in living your life in accordance with Old Testament law, you don't have to sweat it!
No, it is based on a legal contract you have with your partner. If you don't like that arrangement, don't enter into it. But, if you do decide to enter into such a contract, it is not unreasonable for your partner to expect you to abide by it, and if you don't you face the consequences associated with breach of contract.
 

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No, it is based on a legal contract you have with your partner. If you don't like that arrangement, don't enter into it. But, if you do decide to enter into such a contract, it is not unreasonable for your partner to expect you to abide by it, and if you don't you face the consequences associated with breach of contract.
I completely agree.
Biblical, Schmiblical- if you fuck around outside of your marriage or committed relationship, without some sort of consent, then it's adultery, plain and simple. Do you want to try and use a Biblical tradition or Japanese ruling as an argument when your SO finds out? Do you think she/he really gives a shit how you try to justify your actions? Highly unlikely. Will hers/his feelings be assuaged by these notions? NFW!
Live by the sword and die by the sword.
 
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ADULTERY is a social construct based upon a Judeo-Christian tradition. The one man/one woman schtick is from the Old Testament. If you don't believe in living your life in accordance with Old Testament law, you don't have to sweat it!

Dear Whore of Fleetwood,

Actually, it's a legal construct.

Kind regards
 
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Wow what a jerk/asshole comment.
I try to avoid talking to Biblical literalists! :eek!:

Love,
The Whore of Fleetwood
What the hell are you talking about...she affectionately referred to herself as "The Whore of Fleetwood".

Quit being such a prude. By the way the Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup...that's ring number 14 for Mr. Scott Bowman...on the 4th anniversary of the Bruins beating the Canucks...so sweet...did you ever get a chance to see Bowman's "Top 100 Players"...he rated Serge Savard ahead of Larry Robinson...have to say I agree.

Bowman is a genius...but he has also been in the right place at the right time.
 

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Ohhhhhh, Miss Erica.......Your making my upper lip curl when you talk like that.
What the hell is an Opticaltubeassembly...Or was it rectaltubeassembly?
 
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Ohhhhhh, Miss Erica.......Your making my upper lip curl when you talk like that.
What the hell is an Opticaltubeassembly...Or was it rectaltubeassembly?
Dear Whore of Fleetwood,

You may be making his lip curl, but you sure as hell aren't making him any more literate...which must be disappointing for a person with a teaching background...

begging your forgiveness
 
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