It Makes No Sense

[DeaAphrodite]

I simply stated my opinion without trying to make it "nice" by chosing "nice" words.

Conversation that is paid for (usually) is not on the same level as a conversation where both parties want to be there and have an intimate and true connection.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you're implying that the financial exchange necessarily precludes an honest connection and true enjoyment of each other. This is simply not true. It is very possible, if the individuals involved are open to it. Perhaps you have never experienced it - hope you do someday, because it really is special. But until you do understand, it might be best to avoid making assumptions about others' experiences.

To me, conversation can be more intimate than sex.

I agree 100%. I just think that those spectacular conversations depend more on the individuals involved, not whether the lady's company was paid for (directly or indirectly).

 

[hardup]

Now I get to add my two cents worth, why? Cause I can.

I used to charge a dinner and play date amount which was $450. It normally was three hours and generally included me in a very sexy, classy dress. Most times it was to a restaurant of my choosing. All of the times I wore something sexy underneath. All of the times my panties got removed sometime throughout dinner and were given as a "gift", whilst eating. Most of the time we did not stay for dessert and instead enjoyed a chocolate sundae "on me" once we got back to my place.

So I guess one could look at it both ways, however, I know that I was an exciting, titilating, sure thing whose main intend was to arouse all of your senses for the whole time we were together.

Eden

It would appear Eden that you provided value for the money and I'll bet you had a lot of *nice* dining experiences. I for one would take you up on your dinner and play dates as would many others. I think you had in mind exactly what a guy wants when inquiring about a "Dinner Date"

As for paying full pop for feeding an escort..........fuck that idea.......any escort that greedy and lacking of imagination wouldn't make a good dinner date anyway

 

[dirk_dog]

I thought guys paid to get laid and keep the chicks from yipping too much. To each his own I guess.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

You can eat anytime.
If yer gonna drop that kinda coin, spend the whole 3 hours phukin.
Make her earn it.

 

[Eden]

dirk_dogand FuZzYknUckLeS

Tsk tsk tsk, some boys cannot help but throw sand. I like to play nice in the sand box.

Oops, did I say boys? Gosh sorry about that.

Licks,
Eden

Ps Thanks hardup (I think)

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

dirk_dogand FuZzYknUckLeS

Tsk tsk tsk, some boys cannot help but throw sand. I like to play nice in the sand box....Oops, did I say boys? Gosh sorry about that...

No sand being throw there, buttercup. Somethin' hit a nerve did it?
Hypothetical question: If you were a SW, and I were a payin' customer, would you have a problem with me wanting to do ya for 3 hours straight? Compensating you for the time of course. Or does that sound like too much work? That's probably what I'd want for my 3 hours if you were hot. There's nothin' like the look on a grrl's face after you've been bangin' for an hour and a half and she's bagged tired and she cums. Priceless.
Oops! Did I say grrl? ...sorry 'bout that. Where was I...

 

[stryker]

Oops! Did I say grrl? ...sorry 'bout that. Where was I...

LOL,,You slipping there FuZzNuTs

 

[Eden]

Fuzz..

No nerve being struck at all.

To answer your question:

SW- you pay for the ACT

SP- you pay for her TIME

If you asked or wanted to "do me silly" for the entire three hours, than the price would be the standard rate, babe. But if you "wanted" to have a dinner companion, and a play date before or after (which many people have) then it was the price I listed earlier. Whether, I am hot or not (many people think I am), I have on the contrar done both.

Licks,
Eden

 

[momlover]

...me in a very sexy, classy dress. Most times it was to a restaurant of my choosing. All of the times I wore something sexy underneath. All of the times my panties got removed sometime throughout dinner and were given as a "gift", whilst eating. Most of the time we did not stay for dessert and instead enjoyed a chocolate sundae "on me" once we got back to my place.

Eden

All of a sudden I have this "funny" bluge in my pants. How can I get it to go down?

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

...
SW- you pay for the ACT

SP- you pay for her TIME
...
...Licks...

Stop phoolin' yerself darlin'.
If I wanted to pay for someone's time, I'd go to Rent-A-Friend.
It would be interesting to do a poll and see how many others hold your opinion.
It's a different world when you're the one dishin' the dollars, as opposed to rakin' them in.

Hey. BTW. Are those yer eyes in yer avatar? Hawt.

 

[ScottyTwoHotty]

No nerve being struck at all.

To answer your question:

SW- you pay for the ACT

SP- you pay for her TIME

If you asked or wanted to "do me silly" for the entire three hours, than the price would be the standard rate, babe. But if you "wanted" to have a dinner companion, and a play date before or after (which many people have) then it was the price I listed earlier. Whether, I am hot or not (many people think I am), I have on the contrar done both.

Licks,
Eden

Eeeeck. I disagree..
SW you pay for the time and the act
SP you pay for the time and the act
At the risk of raising the roof and stirring shit, I disagree.
IMO an SW is no better than an SP, and an SP is no better than an SW.
One conducts business in a different manner than the other. SW's offer the same services as SP's.
SW's are riskier to pick up due to LE. However, some men seek the thrill.
SP's are a safer way to go is avoiding LE, and some men find comfort in that.
Yes, society looks as SW's in a dimmer light. But both SW's and SP's put one shoe on at a time. Looking at SW's as less than SP's is a piss poor way to look at things. Looking at all SP's as crackheads is a piss poor way of looking at things as well.
Some of the most successful people on this planet have done things society considers wrong. Bill Gates admitted on 20/20 he smoked pot daily. Bill Clinton admitted to smoking a joint, but didn't inhale. So on and so on. Some of my clients, who are very powerful and wealthy, seek SP's, SW's, and have a drug of choice.
Both SP's and SW's offer the same services, conducted in a different manner. Be it time or act. Thinking one is any better or worse, cheaper or more expensive, trashy or classy... It's all the same.
While I won't visit an SW due to LE and the risk, I don't see them as just the act I'm paying for. Nor do I see an SP as just the act I'm paying for. They are both paid for TIME and the ACT.

 

[luv-em-n-lv-em]

I see the mods visiting soon.

People, People!

And some people are calling me a jerk today.

Edit: Clarification, I'm solidly on the SP side of this one!

 

[Batman02]

Why is it a problem what SP charges for dinner dates? It's very simple if you like her enough, enjoy her company and do not have problems with what she charges to go for a dinner with you then go ahead. If you don't think she's worth her asking price then don't pay, instead find other sp who's in your price range. Whatever floats your boats. SP can charge whatever they want to charge. It is their time and companionship you're paying for. What should we be telling them what to charge, it's none of our business. But on the other hand clients have the rights to refuse or accept her rates. If some sp demands 500/hr for her to go out on dinner and she gets it then more power to her. If some rich dudes have no problems paying 500/hr for sp to have dinner with him, hey it is his life, his choice and more importantly it is his money. He can do whatever he wants to do with his money. It's a free country. No one's putting a gun into anyone's head to force you to do things that you don't want to do.

 

[ScottyTwoHotty]

Why is it a problem what SP charges for dinner dates? It's very simple if you like her enough, enjoy her company and do not have problems with what she charges to go for a dinner with you then go ahead. If you don't think she's worth her asking price then don't pay, instead find other sp who's in your price range. Whatever floats your boats. SP can charge whatever they want to charge. It is their time and companionship you're paying for. What should we be telling them what to charge, it's none of our business. But on the other hand clients have the rights to refuse or accept her rates. If some sp demands 500/hr for her to go out on dinner and she gets it then more power to her. If some rich dudes have no problems paying 500/hr for sp to have dinner with him, hey it is his life, his choice and more importantly it is his money. He can do whatever he wants to do with his money. It's a free country. No one's putting a gun into anyone's head to force you to do things that you don't want to do.

Thats right, and it was an opinion. I wasn't coming in with this thread trying to change SP's ways, have world peace, and find a cure for cancer. It was an opinion. I can afford a $1000 feed and fuck, but I think its an insane thing to do.
I have a lot of respect for a lot of the girls. I just think some of the marketing of the package and product is messed up.

 

[ScottyTwoHotty]

This may upset ladies but I have gone on dinner dates and I did not charge for my time..
I have met several gentleman for a great GFE in my room and after they asked have I eaten???
Of course great sex makes me hungery.. I went for a great meal as well...
If a client wishs to have me for a dinner date and then back to my place for fun I add 50.00 to the amount of our "private" time...
I am not greedy....Dinner out to a nice resturant is payment enough for me....

Your
AWESOME!
And with that attitude, you will have repeat customers! Good thinking!


Short term career goal: Rook the customer for all he is worth on the first meeting. He MIGHT return if he didn't learn the first time.
Long term career goal: Let the customer leave with a few bucks in his pocket, satisfied, and happy. He will return!​

 

[Eden]

ScottyTwoHotty.......

Just to clarify something for you, no one is better than anyone here. It is an equal playing field and in no way did I even imply that I thought one was better than another. I was an SW in Vancouver, in fact. Was I a crackhead, uh no. Did I have a pimp and do many of the girls have pimps, uh yeah they do. Are some of them good people, uh yeah. When a girl jumps in the car (SW), the conversation does not normally entail "how much for an hour", it is normally "how much is it for (insert act here)". This has been my experience. As an SP who has worked for an agency and as an independent, my playtime has been negotiated by a "time frame". Most common complaint on perb, in fact, is that men don't feel that they get the "time", they pay for. I don't see this as being a complaint common amongst men who pick up SW's.

I have also had drinks, appy's, and dinners with members of the perb community and other play friends and have NOT charged for it because I wanted to. My dinner date was for someone calling me up on the phone and specifically requesting that particular service, etc etc. I was in this hobby, yes for the cash, but also as a means to get to know people (men) on a playing field that I was comfortable with. So I judge no one on looks or otherwise! Just so you know.

Licks,
Eden
Ps The eyes on my avatar are mine.