Is this kind of guy worth it to you, SPs?

[Kevin101]

I would still need 5-10 minutes of conversation, though, to feel you out, and relax, decide you're not a serial killer, etc.

I acutally quite enjoy the conversation too. I would like to get to know the SP a little bit more than the sex, name,age etc and get more comfortable with the SP. It makes me relax more and hopefully covers the "awakward siliences". I hate those.

decide you're not a serial killer

LoL. Nice. haha.

After all that is how Misty and I became pretty close.

AC Slater,
Kevin is harmless! I think I am the first and only SP Kevin has seen. Kevin and I just really connect and we share a lot of the same interests! We have good laughs together. Kevin and I get along really well. Kevin and I are very close in age

All that matters is that Kevin treats me very well when he comes and see's me - He has a lot of respect for and treats me like a princess

^^^ Undder the thread created by Princess69 - Thank You!

 

[Smoothmover]

I am a flexible sp. Its just Lenny's attitude I don't like. He comes across rude, and condescending. I know I sell sex for money. There is no confusion here.

I would still need 5-10 minutes of conversation, though, to feel you out, and relax, decide you're not a serial killer, etc.

To avoid being rude we (or at least I) tend to be very honest up front and explain "this is what I'm looking for you to do" But it's the fact that "you" need the 5-10 minutes of conversation. For me, I'll talk, but I don't want it coming out of the session time since I'm not paying for conversation. (Makes me wonder I should be charging for the conversation since your the one that needs it....hmmmm

My main point is I don't think it is unrealistic to ask or expect this kind of a session. At the very least, it's mention should not be met with negative judgement put upon us by others

 

[Harmony-bc]

To avoid being rude we (or at least I) tend to be very honest up front and explain "this is what I'm looking for you to do" But it's the fact that "you" need the 5-10 minutes of conversation. For me, I'll talk, but I don't want it coming out of the session time since I'm not paying for conversation. (Makes me wonder I should be charging for the conversation since your the one that needs it....hmmmm

My main point is I don't think it is unrealistic to ask or expect this kind of a session. At the very least, it's mention should not be met with negative judgement put upon us by others

I understand your points.

I for one do not like to feel like a blow up doll, so it is good that you are honest, because quite frankly I would be extremely uncomfortable with the kind of session you describe.

I do not need kissing, cuddling, etc. I do, however, need to feel that I have value as a human being though

 

[hapkido]

I understand your points.

I for one do not like to feel like a blow up doll, so it is good that you are honest, because quite frankly I would be extremely uncomfortable with the kind of session you describe.

I do not need kissing, cuddling, etc. I do, however, need to feel that I have value as a human being though.

Heck I'm not a SP and feel uncomfortable just envisioning such a session . I think most SPs would be creeped out and service level would degrade exponentially.

But hey different strokes for different folks.

 

[Thais]

My main point is I don't think it is unrealistic to ask or expect this kind of a session. At the very least, it's mention should not be met with negative judgement put upon us by others

I think that theoretically you are absolutely right. People have different needs, fantasies, desires - and financial situations - so there should not be judgment.

But I also think reality complicates it. Most women I have corresponded with prefer respectful, BFE-like approach from their clients. And an SP who is good at what she does has a choice of customers. She can reject people whose approach she doesn't like.

Which means that men who tend to be relatively more emotionally difficult clients get passed to the SPs who have less choice, making life increasingly more difficult for them. We've all seen stereotypes of how hard this activity can be for the SPs involved (drinking, drugs, hardness, emotional shutting down), and I think this dynamics is partially responsible for it.

Your delicate yet direct way of phrasing your thoughts tells me that you respect people in this discussion. I don't know what you are like with the SPs you see. But it seems like a number of men who take the "I pay her, I get exactly what I want, her wishes be damned" approach don't respect or treat the SPs they are with as human beings. And that's what causes negativity from others.

At least, in my interpretation.

 

[Smoothmover]

I understand your points.

I for one do not like to feel like a blow up doll, so it is good that you are honest, because quite frankly I would be extremely uncomfortable with the kind of session you describe.

I do not need kissing, cuddling, etc. I do, however, need to feel that I have value as a human being though.

It's not about not having value as a human being. I used to be a plumber and when I'd get sent out to a job by my boss (making $20-$25 an hour) sometimes it would be great, sunny day, new construction, and sometimes I would have to crawl into someones crawlspace after their septic had backed up and get covered in well, you know. Was I undervalued as a human being? The person who owned the house, who payed the bill probably wouldn't go under there himself and was probably disgusted at the thought, but that was my job and it was what needed to be done. It wasn't what i wanted to do ideally, but it wasn't unreasonable and it was the service that the client needed at the time. Most of the time I got a thank you, but most of the time I didn't get a hand shake

It didn't mean that I was someone who was "less than" the person paying me, and I also didn't exactly have the option of saying "No" I won't do that. It's what I was there for.....

 

[Harmony-bc]

It's not about not having value as a human being. I used to be a plumber and when I'd get sent out to a job by my boss (making $20-$25 an hour) sometimes it would be great, sunny day, new construction, and sometimes I would have to crawl into someones crawlspace after their septic had backed up and get covered in well, you know. Was I undervalued as a human being? The person who owned the house, who payed the bill probably wouldn't go under there himself and was probably disgusted at the thought, but that was my job and it was what needed to be done. It wasn't what i wanted to do ideally, but it wasn't unreasonable and it was the service that the client needed at the time. Most of the time I got a thank you, but most of the time I didn't get a hand shake

It didn't mean that I was someone who was "less than" the person paying me, and I also didn't exactly have the option of saying "No" I won't do that. It's what I was there for.....

I think you are purposefully misunderstanding my point, for the sake of arguing, so I am not going to continue in this exchange with you.

 

[hapkido]

There may be a niche market for a SP to capitalize on.

Menu: BBBJ, DATY, Mute Session

 

[Smoothmover]

I think you are purposefully misunderstanding my point, for the sake of arguing, so I am not going to continue in this exchange with you.

Your point is that you sell sex, but you only want to sell sex on your own terms

My point is that it must be nice. Some of us don't have the luxury of selling ourselves under our own terms.(whether we're a plumber, an SP, or working at McDonalds, we are all selling ourselves (our time) in some way) We do our job or we get fired

 

[Smoothmover]

There may be a niche market for a SP to capitalize on.

Menu: BBBJ, DATY, Mute Session

the niche would be

Be Hot (accurrate pic)
Take my money
perform the services I ask for that are listed on your ad
don't short me on time

 

[hapkido]

Your point is that you sell sex, but you only want to sell sex on your own terms

My point is that it must be nice. Some of us don't have the luxury of selling ourselves under our own terms.(whether we're a plumber, an SP, or working at McDonalds, we are all selling ourselves (our time) in some way) We do our job or we get fired

Dude there is a key difference here. A plumber or any other profession does not need to service people with dick in the mouth or ass from all walks of life. Yes it's a business transaction but a very personal business transaction where rapport and trust needs to be established in a matter of seconds. This aint like walkin to a grocery store or McD's and you get a standardized branded service.

Noone is saying that you a wrong in your needs but it's a really tall order to fulfill. But I'm sure there must be a few sps out there who can satisfy you.

I'm going to do a little experiment one day. I will walk into a session and just smile and avoid conversation and see how it turns out. But then again I look way too nice and innocent so the mute session may not turn out tooo bad. LOL LOL

 

[Harmony-bc]

Your point is that you sell sex, but you only want to sell sex on your own terms

My point is that it must be nice. Some of us don't have the luxury of selling ourselves under our own terms.(whether we're a plumber, an SP, or working at McDonalds, we are all selling ourselves (our time) in some way) We do our job or we get fired

Ok, I know I said I would not answer, but I can't seem to help myself, lol.

I have worked for agencies, where if you did not do things their way, you got fired. I have worked in many places where the owners had the same attitudes as your common street pimp.

I now work for myself. I pay all my own over head. I have many, many regulars, so I must be doing something right. I have earned the right to say no to sessions that would make me uncomfortable, nervous, or scared! If you walk into a store or restaurant, sometimes, they have signs that say "We reserve the right to refuse service" Why would an escort not have the same rights as the corner store.

Dude there is a key difference here. A plumber or any other profession does not need to service people with dick in the mouth or ass from all walks of life. Yes it's a business transaction but a very personal business transaction where rapport and trust needs to be established in a matter of seconds. This aint like walkin to a grocery store or McD's and you get a standardized branded service.

Noone is saying that you a wrong in your needs but it's a really tall order to fulfill. But I'm sure there must be a few sps out there who can satisfy you.

Exactly, my point. I like nice, wonderful clients, that I can build a rapport with.

 

[lenny]

I'm going to do a little experiment one day. I will walk into a session and just smile and avoid conversation and see how it turns out. But then again I look way too nice and innocent so the mute session may not turn out tooo bad. LOL LOL

Here's the experiment i'm going to do. I'll let the SP know in advance
precisely what i expect from the session. As a non cranially challenged
human being made in the image of g_d, and probably a better person
than i ever will be, she will have the choice to accept or reject my
request/terms. I will tell her that i am mute and deaf, so there will
be no point in any conversation ;

BTW, I'm curious as to how some SP's here in this thread would
deal with such a person. I think they would be lost, and have to
reject this client, because he cannot converse with them. LOL.

P.S. I confess, i know my attitude stinks, HARMONY ; But how can
i change myself, this is what i am, & the cards life has dealt me ;
Maybe your sweet love can save me & change me ; Can we book
a session for tomorrow night? I promise i will converse with you
for at least 5 minutes, and that i am not a serial {or cereal} killer!

LOL

Yours truly,
lenny

Finishing up his third baccardi breezer.

 

[Harmony-bc]

Here's the experiment i'm going to do. I'll let the SP know in advance
precisely what i expect from the session. As a non cranially challenged
human being made in the image of g_d, and probably a better person
than i ever will be, she will have the choice to accept or reject my
request/terms. I will tell her that i am mute and deaf, so there will
be no point in any conversation.

BTW, I'm curious as to how some SP's here in this thread would
deal with such a person. I think they would be lost, and have to
reject this client, because he cannot converse with them. LOL.

P.S. I confess, i know my attitude stinks, Harmony ; But how can i
change myself, this is what i am, & the cards life has dealt me ;
Maybe your sweet love can save me & change me ; Can we book
a session for tomorrow night? I promise i will converse with you
for 5 minutes, and that i am not a serial {or cereal} killer! LOL

If someone was mute and deaf, as long as he can write, and somehow book the appointment. Not sure how he could, seeing as how he'd have to be able to hear the address because I don't give my address over email. I guess some one else could set it up for him. I'd love to be able to see him, but I don't know if my suspicious nature would let go enough for a third party booking.

As for booking an appointment with me (I know you're kidding, but I'll answer anyway) If you could convince me you would'nt make me give you a bbbj for 2 hrs (I only offer covered, and my jaw would lock up, I'm sure after even half that time ) You would also have to change the tone of your posts a bit before I would think we'd be a good match.

 

[lenny]

As for booking an appointment with me (I know you're kidding, but I'll answer anyway) If you could convince me you would'nt make me give you a bbbj for 2 hrs (I only offer covered, and my jaw would lock up, I'm sure after even half that time ) You would also have to change the tone of your posts a bit before I would think we'd be a good match.

I am not kidding, sweet lovely gorgeous Harmony! Although i am working
on my 4th baccardi breezer {see my previous & edited post}, so please
let me see how i feel after the hangover wears off in the afternoon ;

As for "making" you do a BBBJ for 2 hours, LOL, cum on, i know you would
not be into that. Covered for 2 hours would do just fine ; LOL

P.S. Is that a better tone? ;

 

[Potter]

Actually.....

I'm finding this tread quite informative for discovering what SP's I might WANT to see. Us lurking vultures gotta get info somewhere!

P.S. This is a good thread for guys discovering what SP's not to see.
I hope some more SP's will pipe in with comments like yours. Carry on ;

 

[Harmony-bc]

I am not kidding, sweet lovely gorgeous Harmony! Although i am working
on my 4th baccardi breezer {see my previous & edited post}, so please
let me see how i feel after the hangover wears off in the afternoon ;

As for "making" you do a BBBJ for 2 hours, LOL, cum on, i know you would
not be into that. Covered for 2 hours would do just fine ; LOL

P.S. Is that a better tone? ;

Actually it is a better tone, lol.

(I'm still not doing a two hr bj)

 

[lenny]

Actually it is a better tone, lol.

(I'm still not doing a two hr bj)

No problem darling. If you'ld put in an honest review of me
in this thread, i'd be happy to forgo the 20% discount ;

"You work hard in life and you deserve to be spoiled, pampered
and treated like a king" {Harmony}

http://harmonybc.myescortpage.com/

Looking forward to it! ;

 

[FortunateOne]

How can you tell, I thought most don't speak English and the rest you tell to be quiet and get busy.

lmao, thank you very much.

"me love you long time, lenny, you big strong man" Yeah, you betcha they like ya

 

[FortunateOne]

There may be a niche market for a SP to capitalize on.

Menu: BBBJ, DATY, Mute Session

That's called Micro service. Guys who want/expect/demand those things know where to go.

Just don't expect it from the indys, that's all they are saying. In fact, why would they bother the indys with this sort of request when they also usually think indy rates are too high, indys have too many "rules" and indy's ability to screen their potential clients usually leaves them out dialing up the micros anyways lol.