Is the death spiral starting to happen now?!!! LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!

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huggzy

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agree completely, life is pretty good

some people see the glass half empty, some see it half full......
You see it as a glass half full, when others see it as some idiot dumping our water out the window. If you think life is good if you have to take out a $1million mortgage to buy a dump in this town when the average schmuck is earning $25-$30/hr then you have no clue what is a "pretty good" life.

We've thrown away a pretty good life...our parents had a pretty good life and then sold it all out on the future generations.
 

summerbreeze

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well lets see, worked hard to get good education
worked hard at building career
focused on what I could accomplish rather than worry about outside influences which I had no impact on
kept positive attitude
have great friends and family
great job, more than adequate income
profiting nicely from investments including real estate assets
spend time and focus on what advances my growth rather than spending anytime blaming or worrying about the economy, the government, others....
treat people with respect

wake up every morning marveling at how lucky I am and what a great life I have

not sure why anyone would think I should think otherwise, just worked hard enough to stay ahead of the curve rather than playing catch up and blaming everyone for any little thing

life is good..... :)
 

huggzy

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well lets see, worked hard to get good education
worked hard at building career
focused on what I could accomplish rather than worry about outside influences which I had no impact on
kept positive attitude
have great friends and family
great job, more than adequate income
profiting nicely from investments including real estate assets
spend time and focus on what advances my growth rather than spending anytime blaming or worrying about the economy, the government, others....
treat people with respect

wake up every morning marveling at how lucky I am and what a great life I have

not sure why anyone would think I should think otherwise, just worked hard enough to stay ahead of the curve rather than playing catch up and blaming everyone for any little thing

life is good..... :)
So tell me this...you earn enough in this marketplace to service a $1-$2 million mortgage? And you don't live in a dump? And you did it without inheriting from someone else or buying in in the 70's or 80's? If you say yes then I call bullshit.

Edit. Nevermind. I just went over your post history and the majority of it is discussing Asian SPs, AMPs, K girls, Chinese movies etc. Go figure.

Edit again...and you're Chinese and earn your living from China. I'm sure you all think Canadians are stupid (and by and large, as long as they're buying your tune they probably are)

http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...nd-pushiness&p=1622682&highlight=#post1622682

"when I started doing quite a bit of business in Asia a number of years ago, I was shocked that women in their mid 20's were attracted to me.

these were very good looking women and it took me a while to understand the logic behind it.

first, there is no stigma in Asia for a young woman to be with an older man, they think it makes sense. stability, good provider, etc, etc

my friends wives over here were horrified and thought I was becoming something they did not care for, when cornered by them and their questions I told them it was not a nubile issue. these women were refreshing in terms of their outlook on like and had far less baggage than women my own age.

when queried about why the women were compatible I told them that the common thread in my case was that these women were gorgeous but also very smart. it was simply a case of them growing tired of always pretending they were dumber than the particular boyfriend they were with.

in my case they could just be themselves, being older with some maturity I was not threatened by their IQ and in fact encouraged them to be themselves. I had prior to that not realized how threatened most Asian men in Asia were by intelligent women. (probably a portion of the Asian men over here as well but not nearly as much as in Asia)

so in my case, I found age difference was never an issue in Asia but then that was casual dating, no potential in-laws in the equation...."


http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...s-operations&p=1622453&highlight=#post1622453

"guess google's translation has a way to go

chinese language uses a lot of idioms which is hard on a direct word to word translator"
 
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vanperb

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How has Vancouver gone to shit??!?! The density and wall to wall people is suffocating and dirty. Monster houses instead of friendly, nicely designed homes and neighborhoods. People are extremely unfriendly and cold. Things are beyond expensive now. The environment is going to shit. Traffic sucks ass. I could go on and on and on. This place sucks compared to what it was before.
So hey... Have you ever thought about moving? You're obviously not happy with Vancouver growing/changing/going to hell, and you're obviously not dumb and has a skillset that is transferable across regions. The clock isn't going back so a solution is to find some place else. If you have property here, cash it out an move to Kitmat, or maybe Thunder Bay. What's keeping you chained here?
 

huggzy

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So hey... Have you ever thought about moving? You're obviously not happy with Vancouver growing/changing/going to hell, and you're obviously not dumb and has a skillset that is transferable across regions. The clock isn't going back so a solution is to find some place else. If you have property here, cash it out an move to Kitmat, or maybe Thunder Bay. What's keeping you chained here?
And tell me why should I have to move away from my family and life in order to appease foreign interests in my own country and city where I grew up and where I've been paying taxes my entire adult life?

Fuck.

Dude. You earn $30/hr which is an above average income although is far less than I earn. Unless you've been gifted money from someone else there's no chance you're retiring here by making a living here in Vancouver. You should be more outraged than I am unless you're not thinking forward.

You don't even qualify for a $400,000 mortgage if you had zero debt and $400,000 buys you NOTHING here.
 
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summerbreeze

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So tell me this...you earn enough in this marketplace to service a $1-$2 million mortgage? And you don't live in a dump? And you did it without inheriting from someone else or buying in in the 70's or 80's? If you say yes then I call bullshit.

Edit. Nevermind. I just went over your post history and the majority of it is discussing Asian SPs, AMPs, K girls, Chinese movies etc. Go figure.

Edit again...and you're Chinese and earn your living from China. I'm sure you all think Canadians are stupid (and by and large, as long as they're buying your tune they probably are)

http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...nd-pushiness&p=1622682&highlight=#post1622682

"when I started doing quite a bit of business in Asia a number of years ago, I was shocked that women in their mid 20's were attracted to me.

these were very good looking women and it took me a while to understand the logic behind it.

first, there is no stigma in Asia for a young woman to be with an older man, they think it makes sense. stability, good provider, etc, etc

my friends wives over here were horrified and thought I was becoming something they did not care for, when cornered by them and their questions I told them it was not a nubile issue. these women were refreshing in terms of their outlook on like and had far less baggage than women my own age.

when queried about why the women were compatible I told them that the common thread in my case was that these women were gorgeous but also very smart. it was simply a case of them growing tired of always pretending they were dumber than the particular boyfriend they were with.

in my case they could just be themselves, being older with some maturity I was not threatened by their IQ and in fact encouraged them to be themselves. I had prior to that not realized how threatened most Asian men in Asia were by intelligent women. (probably a portion of the Asian men over here as well but not nearly as much as in Asia)

so in my case, I found age difference was never an issue in Asia but then that was casual dating, no potential in-laws in the equation...."


http://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...s-operations&p=1622453&highlight=#post1622453

"guess google's translation has a way to go

chinese language uses a lot of idioms which is hard on a direct word to word translator"
Actually I am Canadian, born here and have an Asian background

Know Vancouver very well as it is my hometown and just don't see things the way you do. Not everyone has the same take on things as you do.

Came from a hard working family and used that work ethic to further my interests much like the friends I grew up with. Wasn't that difficult and didn't take a rocket scientist to get ahead in the high growth baby boomer era.

But this thread isn't about me, it is about real estate historically in Vancouver and its future. Still don't think your view on the real estate industry here locally is the only view.

For those who have saved, paid of their initial mortgages, invested, and rode the asset inflation trend in Vancouver things have worked out. In addition, Vancouver unlike most other cities in NA has not really gone through a major downtrend since the slide which 21% interest rates caused in 1980. After that blip real estate has trended up and when other markets fell, Vancouver held and then continued to move up.

We just have to accept that people like to live here for weather and lifestyle reasons and there is a constant inflow of new homeowners coming from other parts of Canada and outside of Canada. Probably a normal progression and given the low crime and high standard of living it is good for some and expensive for others.

By the way, I do like the sushi and noodles we have in this town. Yum

Chill dude, not everyone has a bleak take on life......
 

huggzy

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Actually I am Canadian, born here and have an Asian background

Know Vancouver very well as it is my hometown and just don't see things the way you do. Not everyone has the same take on things as you do.

Came from a hard working family and used that work ethic to further my interests much like the friends I grew up with. Wasn't that difficult and didn't take a rocket scientist to get ahead in the high growth baby boomer era.

But this thread isn't about me, it is about real estate historically in Vancouver and its future. Still don't think your view on the real estate industry here locally is the only view.

For those who have saved, paid of their initial mortgages, invested, and rode the asset inflation trend in Vancouver things have worked out. In addition, Vancouver unlike most other cities in NA has not really gone through a major downtrend since the slide which 21% interest rates caused in 1980. After that blip real estate has trended up and when other markets fell, Vancouver held and then continued to move up.

We just have to accept that people like to live here for weather and lifestyle reasons and there is a constant inflow of new homeowners coming from other parts of Canada and outside of Canada. Probably a normal progression and given the low crime and high standard of living it is good for some and expensive for others.

By the way, I do like the sushi and noodles we have in this town. Yum

Chill dude, not everyone has a bleak take on life......
Oh...so apparently Asians are the only people with a hard work ethic huh?

So in other words you are Asian, who didn't have to pay $1 million in a mortgage, who earns his income from China. Gotcha. I'm going to disregard everything you say from this point on.

Edit...no, I'm not done with you yet.

Don't tell me...let me guess. A majority of your income is likely from engaging in shadow flipping in real estate considering you're obviously involved in the real estate market and heavily engaged with business interests in China.

For those of you that don't know what shadow flipping is (most Asians do know what this is because its been a massive windfall for them whether Canadian born or not):

1. A person wants to sell their property, and gets it listed. In Vancouver, which has been having a meteoric rise in real estate prices due to the Asian market, its well known that it is advantageous to also have an Asian realtor who has foreign client lists as well.

2. Locals who bought pre 2000 for dirt cheap don't have any idea what their homes are worth these days - they just know its a hot market and you hear stories daily about multiple offers and bidding wars on top of these overly inflated prices. Their realtor helps them set their price 100s of thousands, if not millions of dollars more than what they originally paid. No matter what the place sells for they're going to make a windfall and be happy about it - if not oblivious.

3. The house is listed, and then you will see dozens if not 100s of couples (almost all Asian) tour the home. Then maybe the house sells immediately upon listing, or maybe it doesn't, but eventually the vendors are told that the offers are coming in (in actual fact, this is all a fictional ruse). And oftentimes its the offer with no conditions above list price that is accepted (a set up), and the buyer will likely have an Asian name on the contract of course. The contracts are signed and the realtor makes their disclosures - of course the realtor discloses that they have no interest in this deal. And then the closing date is set a few months down the road.

4. In the meantime the vendors are happy just counting down the days until closing, while the realtor is taking multiple new offers on the same property from his Chinese client list. Oftentimes these buyers are even buying sight unseen and the realtor already had their sights set on flipping this property to one of his clients even before the listing hit the market.

5. Unbeknownst to the vendors, the buyer who signed the contract with them may be a friend, relative or associate of the realtor, and then the property is assigned TO the realtor after the original sales contract was signed, knowing that he was going to be able to sell the property for hundreds of thousands if not millions more than what the property was listed at.

6. The realtor not only gets to pocket multiple commissions, but they also get to pocket the difference while having zero carrying or transaction costs.


And guess what - its the Chinese realtors who are able to do this, not the local non-ethnic realtors because the Chinese are the ones with all the out of country business contacts.
 
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huggzy

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We just have to accept that people like to live here for weather and lifestyle reasons and there is a constant inflow of new homeowners coming from other parts of Canada and outside of Canada. Probably a normal progression and given the low crime and high standard of living it is good for some and expensive for others.

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And this statement you make here is where you clearly identify yourself as a greedy, self-entitled fucking tool. NO...WE DO NOT HAVE TO ACCEPT IT.

I earn $120k/year and I couldn't even dream of buying a shitbox here for $1.5 million with mortgage payments of $8, $9 or $10k/mth. My income is well above what most Canadians earn and I can't even imagine what it must be like to be a 25 year old living here earning $20/hr and wondering what the hell is he/she going to do in the future?!?! I made good life choices and I put in the hard work and education. And I'm still going to get fucked.

And you clearly don't give two shits about anyone but yourself. I also see that you don't have children (obviously) and you clearly don't have a sense of community or empathy for your fellow citizen.

You make a flippant remark about how you are "hard working" and paid off your initial mortgage...so how the fuck did you do that if you aren't earning $1M a year?! Did you buy in the 70's and have a mortgage of $100k?

You say it "wasn't difficult" to do - yet do you see most people here having the ability to go to Asia and make their income from there? How was it so easy for you to do? Or are you one of those guys who bought for $100k in the 70's so you couldn't give two shits about how things are going to clearly be so difficult for future generations because, well, you don't have any kids?

Or, more likely the case, when you migrated here did you come with alot of your family's money? Did you live with them until you were 30? How much money did your wealthy Asian parents give you to start your investing? Because not just anyone can get in now when prices for a detached home START at $1.5M.

I read about you flying around to Shanghai and Bangkok and everywhere else and clearly you aren't the average Joe Schmuck here and clearly you're piping money here from the East, and if experience tells us anything most of the time the Asian immigrant who comes here had a shitload of money to begin with too - which is why we are having the problems we are seeing now.

So save your fucking lectures because you're "that guy" we're talking about, you just got here on your parents' ticket earlier than those flooding in here now. We see the problems that China has with over population - why on earth would any sane person here in Canada want to willingly choose to adopt those same problems?

There's no sense in listening to your perspective - you even entered into this conversation dishonestly because you would never have even disclosed your ethnic descent if I didn't dig around in your old posts. You would have just posed as an average, typical British Columbian who just worked hard and the rest of us are who are complaining are just griping about nothing and should have done what you did. You wouldn't have disclosed anything about your background if I didn't out you.
 

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This discussion doesn't need to get personal. Stick with the argument being made, not the person making it.


Or, more likely the case, when you migrated here did you come with alot of your family's money
He indicated he was born here. He's Canadian, not an immigrant.
 

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I have repeatedly warned people about getting along and being able to debate without insults. Guess some people have to learn the hard way.
 
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