Is Prostitution "bad", from a moral point of view?

[BDAClub]

its bad.

very very bad.

in fact i've been a very very very bad girl.

Let the record show I'm all about the bad girls.....bring it on I'm in favour of it......even if she is a Flames fan .....wouldn't be the first time the Oilers conquered the Flames

 

[Randy Whorewald]

Funny how Dion didn't think that Kyoto was so important when he was environment minister...

Agreed. The Libs were in power for some 20 years and did zilch on the environment and now suddenly we're supposed to trust them again? They're going to save us from Harper's "archaic" policies? Not on your life!!

 

[slacker]

Well I pretty much have no moral issue with prostitution.

The only "moral" thing I can think of is lets just imagine a world where prostitution was so normal every woman was a prostitute. In other words the only way to see a woman was for money. I think that would represent a pretty unnatural abstraction between the natural interaction of a man and a woman. And I'd think that would be a bit morally wrong at that point if you actually have to pay for it no matter what. Then again all the BS you probably have to go through to get with a civilian could be considered pretty unnatural as well. So I'm not sure I am making a good point here really.

In real life there is a natural balance, as only a small percentage of women are prostitutes, and they service the maybe not so small amount of men that desire their services, yet other men are happy to have regular relationships. So it all works out pretty well for society with no real moral ills coming out of it.

 

[jjinvan]

In other words the only way to see a woman was for money.

That is NOT what would be different. We already have that.

What would be totally different is that every woman would be a sure thing, and guys could get all the blowjobs they wanted, whenever they wanted.

mmmm paradise?

 

[Mr.O]

My observation

Well I pretty much have no moral issue with prostitution.

The only "moral" thing I can think of is lets just imagine a world where prostitution was so normal every woman was a prostitute. In other words the only way to see a woman was for money. I think that would represent a pretty unnatural abstraction between the natural interaction of a man and a woman. And I'd think that would be a bit morally wrong at that point if you actually have to pay for it no matter what. Then again all the BS you probably have to go through to get with a civilian could be considered pretty unnatural as well. So I'm not sure I am making a good point here really.

In real life there is a natural balance, as only a small percentage of women are prostitutes, and they service the maybe not so small amount of men that desire their services, yet other men are happy to have regular relationships. So it all works out pretty well for society with no real moral ills coming out of it.

This man has obviously never been married!!!

 

[ms.belair]

I wonder if this question would be asked if men were being paid to have sex with strange women.

 

[myselftheother]

I wonder if this question would be asked if men were being paid to have sex with strange women.

I wouldn't need to be paid... I'd gladly volunteer my services

Seriously though, Ms Belair, what's your point? We could all sit here and speculate on whether or not if there was a parallel universe where men were being paid to have sex with strange women. In reality, men are buying the services of pleasure from women ...the question was is it bad from a moral point of view.

Being a long time pooner and a bit of a lurker on here, I can honestly say that morally it is wrong, but so very right. It's a service that has helped me get over ex-SO's, explore my own sexual horizons, and have some absolutely freakin' fantastic, mind blowing, eye-crossing, toe-curled orgasms of my life....

So, yes it's good.....IMHO.

 

[LutherBlissett]

I wonder if this question would be asked if men were being paid to have sex with strange women.

I also wonder this:

Why isn't the question posed with a slash?

Is pooning/prostitution "morally" wrong?

The great Canadian golfer, George Knudsen, commented to someone who was bemoaning the fact that George was dying of lung cancer from his fabulous smoking habit (George looked very Bogartish on the links with an ever-present cyanide cylinder):

"Shit man, what did I expect, for fuck's sake? I chose to smoke the damn things!"

(Or words to that effect).

In my rather longish pooning career, I've probably had sex with as many different women as most female sex workers will have sex with different men in their usually relatively brief stint in the trade.

If any man on this board thinks "prostitution" or any aspect of it is "morally" wrong, it follows that "pooning" is equally so. Echoing George:

"Shit man, what did I expect, for fuck's sake? I chose to fuck the damn things!"

(Oh, by the way, Maggie, if all the "strange women" look like you, I'll gladly accept the assignment. I take only Mastercard, though.)

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

I'm for totally legalizing it, and I don't view it as morally or
ethically wrong, unless, like any other situation, it involves
force, coersion or exploitation of someone who cannot say no,
and should obviously never involve children or anyone of
diminished capacity.

In my opinion, prostitution is one of the most honest forms
of communication between men and women in existence:
anyone who has ever spent a night in a bar or club or
even gone on a date knows the huge bullshit that accompanies
most social intercourse between the sexes.

Give me a dollar figure and a time frame and I am blissful!

LG you took the words right out of my mouth!

Religious morals aside. and as long as everyone is respectful, honest & upright I think it's a huge benefit to both men and women, whether they know it or not.

Attached men are still men and biology creates a drive for frequency and variety. I think it's far safer to go see a pro, deal with both of these in a professional way, than go out and cheat with the secretary or some woman you meet. Those situation tend to involve:
-more emotions
-more drama than seeing a pro
-are far less discreet
-more often leave to break-ups and divorce

This is just a safe way to take the edge off while maintaining the emotional sincerity of the relationship.

For single guys... happy guys make the world a better place!

For those wit hygiene issues... well at least you know that someone is making them take the occasional bath!

 

[bigmoe69er]

Is Prostitution "bad", from a moral point of view?
No, it is potentially "good". Like most things in life, it all depends upon the quality of the individuals involved.


---Dr. Moe

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Psychological research has clearly shown that replacing instrinsic motivation with extrinsic motivation pretty much wipes out the intrinsic motivation. Its very hard to backtrack.

But this is true of pretty much every person doing any job. Would you sit in a call centre and answer phones all day if there was not a paycheque in it?

I also question why money is pretty much the only initial selector used by SPs. I know its a bit easier than administering personality and IQ tests but it seems to be too much of an easy out.

Hardly, having a lady's rate in your hand does not equal a ticket to ride. We screen clients. Being in this biz gives you a knack for read people. You can usually tell if they are nice, decent and reasonably intelligent. If not, you send them packing.

Example: if an SP and had the choice of working with a disabled person on a fixed income who had no other outlet but couldn't afford to pay the advertised rate vs a married man who could who would they pick realistically? Who gets picked typically?

Apples and oranges. I go back to my original statement about jobs & paycheques. If a mechanic only had so much time, whose car would he work on, the person who could pay or not? Now compare two people with equal financial resources, one is disabled, one is able bodied. Who is the SP more likely to see? Depends on the type of person she is or how well she clicks with the clients in question.

Even without invoking ethics one could argue that, even if the disabled individual is not able to afford as much per session, they are much more likely to book multiple sessions and the SP in that case might actually make more money as a result. However, I've seen people all too often doing the opposite: going for the quick reward and losing out on more substantial long-term gain.

I know you are speaking in generalities but we are not all the same. And some of us may have a heart and come to some other kind of financial arrangement.

Also, I *think* you are suggesting that a disabled guy is more likely to see the same SP? Why do you make that assumption? It that because they have difficulty finding an SP who will see them, and when they find a god thing they stick with it? OR are you suggesting they are more prone to form attachments that would lead to repeat business? I can't disagree with the former, but if you mean the latter then you are forgetting that disabled does not mean they are any less prone to the same descion making process able bodied men are.... if you want variety, you seek out variety.

 

[Irresistible Isabelle]

Well I pretty much have no moral issue with prostitution.

The only "moral" thing I can think of is lets just imagine a world where prostitution was so normal every woman was a prostitute. In other words the only way to see a woman was for money. I think that would represent a pretty unnatural abstraction between the natural interaction of a man and a woman. And I'd think that would be a bit morally wrong at that point if you actually have to pay for it no matter what. Then again all the BS you probably have to go through to get with a civilian could be considered pretty unnatural as well. So I'm not sure I am making a good point here really.

In real life there is a natural balance, as only a small percentage of women are prostitutes, and they service the maybe not so small amount of men that desire their services, yet other men are happy to have regular relationships. So it all works out pretty well for society with no real moral ills coming out of it.

Great that you should mention this!
I read a stat in university (can't for the life of me remember what course though) that said in the uber repressed Victoria era in England, about 1/10 of the female population were prostitutes. Go figure eh? Goes to show what happens when religious morality clamps down on society. Think the religious climate of the US is the possible cause of the rampant promiscuity in the same culture?

 

[ms.belair]

Seriously though, Ms Belair, what's your point?

My point? Well it's a rhetorical question, but I'm curious what men think about the situation being reversed.
I personally do not think prostitution is immoral, not at all.

 

[slacker]

This man has obviously never been married!!!

Oh actually I am quite married, to a great lady. And after many years together it is not costing me much at all as she isn't a gold digger who expects to be showered with expensive yet meaningless things. Apparently that's a rare case around here. I'm quite sure the cost to support her divided by the number of times we've shagged comes out much cheaper than an SPs rates. But yeah, no matter the value, you want variety, just like anything in life, which is why I'm here.

I think what you meant to say was "obviously this man has never been divorced!!!".

 

[myselftheother]

My point? Well it's a rhetorical question, but I'm curious what men think about the situation being reversed.
I personally do not think prostitution is immoral, not at all.

I believe if the situation was reversed, we'd have a junior, college and professional league and it would have the playoffs on TSN....

Seriously tho'....it would be a different roll men would be in, even though we would be supplying the same essential service, I think that the psychologial dynamics would lend an odd mix of everything that you see now, just different. I know that's vague, but i haven't had a coffee yet.....

What do you think it would be like?

 

[tianna]

the only tick....

are the so's that stumble across numbers and information on peices of paper... that belong to their partners ( who did not cover their tracks enough ) and then decided to call them back.. and give the 1001 questions... or call back and leave a message telling u to cancel their husbands 2pm appointment. because he will not be making it I think this industry is great ... Im enjoying it... and it should be legalized !!!!!!

 

[kalel]

$$$

Im enjoying it... and it should be legalized !!!!!!

i dunno, i don't wanna pay gst on it. plus i don't ever want it to get to the point where usual HR issues become a factor.

 

[snowmonger]

How is that?

Keep in mind that minority lobby groups don't represent the views of society at large, but they are the ones doing all the shouting so they are the ones that seem to control weak leftie governments.

man, that's hilarious.
the so-called weak lefty govts have to kowtow to a wide range of conservative morals in this country to have ANY chance of being elected.

 

[jjinvan]

man, that's hilarious.
the so-called weak lefty govts have to kowtow to a wide range of conservative morals in this country to have ANY chance of being elected.

I think that was part of my point?

'wackjob special interest groups' come in both right and left wing flavours.

If you only follow the media reports and look at the government actions, you'd assume that the majority of people in Canada believe prostitution is wrong.

But, if you actually did a properly conducted poll, with an unbiased question or two, my guess is that the majority of Canadians (albeit a small majority) have no problem with a girl having the right sell access to the amusement park that is her body.

 

[jjinvan]

Now, the solution to the problem is to get a good sex trade lobby going and then become a VERY vocal special interest group the next time we have a leftie government.

They'd completely legalize and licence prostitution pretty quickly. It would be interesting to see how the current legal framework would deal with the idea of manditory HIV and STI testing in a court challenge.

Of course, that would also mean full income tax for SPs as well as PST and GST on their services etc etc...

Also, you would have 'escort insurance' to cover things like lawsuits from angry spouses and maybe even disability insurance to cover 'occupational HIV' etc...

What would it mean in the end?

1) Much lower prices

2) Much higher expenses and taxes

3) Lots of paperwork and lawyers

4) Professional liability issues

And, of course, if we have a leftie government, they would say that since everyone deserves to get laid, those on welfare would have their pooning subsidized by tax dollars. I call it "Whorefare" or "Poonicare" and of course, the escorts would have government regulated rates that they could charge, with the anti-poverty groups arguing that they need to provide this essential service at lower rates several days per week for lower income people.

And, of course, they better all be Bi, because they can't discriminate against clients due to sexual orientation, so they better be ready and willing to do some carpet munching if a lesbian calls to book. Same goes for not being able to discriminate against a potential client because he is a heroin addict or alcoholic and shows up tripping or drunk.

Don't you just love it when the government gets involved in things?