Well, congrats on being in that 2-3% for which the rule doesn't apply (assuming you're not full of shit).
Is paying for sex making us men lazy?
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See what I mean? She's maximizing her utility, being the rational actor that she is. You on the other hand, are not being rational because despite all your efforts, the returns are not satisfactory and you continue to pour "good money after bad", as it were.So, I don't think pooning makes us lazy.
In fact one of the reasons why I poon, now that I think about it, is because I often find that it's the women I get involved with who sometimes become lazy, and bore the shit out of me in relationships.
Ever notice how when you first start dating a lady that she goes that extra mile to look hot, wear those sexy boots, or laugh at your stupid jokes?
Then, after you have been banging her for about a month she's all of a sudden wearing sweatpants all the time, and saying "OMG" when you make a classical cheezy joke.
I am really not a chauvanist pig, but it really picks my butt in the non pleasurable way that a good number of women nowadays still expect men to go those extra lengths to be chivalrous, get the door, keep that spark alive, attend yoga class, watch silly sitcoms, go to art galleries, care about their dogs and gay friends, look sharp, give face like a gold fishy, and fuck like a white knight on demand.
Whereas, how many bitches nowadays still know how to make a pineapple-upside down cake, a good cup of coffee, or cook a decent meal. It blows me away how many girls I know that are total slobs and can't cook.
In my current "relationship" my female fuck buddy comes over and we fuck. I have cooked a lot of meals, and I am a good cook - and what does she do? Leaves her dirty bowl and chopsticks in the sink.
So far, she has left her used maxipad in a bag on the bathroom floor 3 or 4 times, before I pointed out to her that if she does not dispose of that shit its going to be me - do girls really want that?
I can't even get the girl to wax her damn moustache off her top lip. But, she comes over and tells me that she like it better when I don't grow a beard.
And, its not just this girl which I use as an example, its most girls that I date that want someone to act like a fawning servant.
All I ask in exchange is that a girl read a book and how to give a great handjob, and give me the hand job of my life.
Is that too much to ask in exchange for all the effort I put in???
You may be able to increase your perceived value to her by stopping bending over for her and being a guy she takes for granted. Simply stop making food, licking her pussy, calling her, etc. If that doesn't extract better returns, break off with her without telling her. Then she will have to "buy you back".
What you say is true, many females are lazy like that. That is perhaps part of the whole female role syndrome: to attain a steady provider so that she may proceed with her agenda of raising a family. A wiser female would not suddenly become lazy until she had you under a more legal engagement. That she acts this way already communicates what she'll really be like if you guys partner up permanently. The smartest females look upon their partner as an investment, not an asset: once attained, she continues to invest in him to maximize the returns to her. Or you can simply say to her, "if you want gas, you have to prime the pump".
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I think he's frustrated with working out and studying and still not getting any of that sweet free sex from super model look-a-likes.
Maybe he needs to break down and buy some and relax.
You're right, it is a narrow perspective. Then there's love.... and love is blind. That works fine when both are blind, but what if one of them is maximizing her utility, and therefore a little less blind? A partnership of one blind, one seeing, so someone is in the driver's seat and the other is the blind passenger.
I guess i am when i think of it ..
i seldom look at other women( except porn) , The waitresses that i see .. few i find appealing .. and i won't try to ask them out .. never real did , all those there were a few witch i did try ..
But i know If i want some sex i just have to ask the One or two girls i know if they would see me , and not much more to worry bout ..
i seldom look at other women( except porn) , The waitresses that i see .. few i find appealing .. and i won't try to ask them out .. never real did , all those there were a few witch i did try ..
But i know If i want some sex i just have to ask the One or two girls i know if they would see me , and not much more to worry bout ..
For me, the BEST answer to the question on why gentlemen date courtesans came from Classy Angel about 3 years ago. :nod:
No, it hasnt
1) you have nothing to offer me ( eg, i cook, clean better )
2) I would fuck you and treat you like an equal but that is not what you want.
Some of them try witty ways to insult my take on the situation but then i usually shut them down based on facts. I don't poon often but one thing pooning has done is taken out the whole sex weapon trap. Does it make me rusty at the dating scene? No, the don't give a fuck about aura actually creates a stronger semblance of confidence.
If you are looking for a meaningful relationship, use pooning to wash away the urges and then you can see clearly the women you are trying to get involved in. All the red flags are much clearer with only one brain in charge.
IMHO it is not making us lazy. Almost every month I get a host of hot girls coming over for a house party. Every time my friend introduces me to girls he always says to them, "he is not interested in a relationship". Then the barrage of questions comes along. My usual answers usually include:
1) you have nothing to offer me ( eg, i cook, clean better )
2) I would fuck you and treat you like an equal but that is not what you want.
Some of them try witty ways to insult my take on the situation but then i usually shut them down based on facts. I don't poon often but one thing pooning has done is taken out the whole sex weapon trap. Does it make me rusty at the dating scene? No, the don't give a fuck about aura actually creates a stronger semblance of confidence.
If you are looking for a meaningful relationship, use pooning to wash away the urges and then you can see clearly the women you are trying to get involved in. All the red flags are much clearer with only one brain in charge.
No, definitely not making me lazy. In fact, it's making me LESS lazy - I'm voluntarily working more overtime hours so that I can justify blowing several hundreds for one hour of fun once in a while. Heh heh.
lazy? no...
more selective? yes...
harder to coerce with promises of mediocre sex? definitely!!!
more selective? yes...
harder to coerce with promises of mediocre sex? definitely!!!
I was starting to think the same way when I entered the hobby a few months back, but now I have found a new found confidence around women in general. I know what you are all saying about it being easy about pooning vs. dating. Hopefully in the new year I will finally get off my lazy ass and get into a relationship but hell, I said that this time last year :nod:
Very well said. I hadn't considered that side of the equation. I have also noticed that I have more confidence approaching women than I had in the past. I have had to become a better conversationalist in order to fill those otherwise, awkward pauses during sessions (during post or pre coitus conversation). However, I have not dated since I started pooning, so it would be interesting to see if I would be more inclined to get to know a woman first before I ventured into the bedroom...or would this hobby make me a serial cheater?
That is the downside to this hobby I think, not only do we have the tendency to avoid relationships entirely, especially if we can get sex anytime we want. But how do we ever stay completely satisfied with one woman for an extended period of time when there is always the next greatest and hottest girl just around the corner?...In other words how do you stay or remain monogamous in a relationship once you become a pooner?
I can charm the old lady give her money for bills buy her expensive gifts allowance etc. its still not a sure thing. I got smart gave myself an allowance instead and now i see any sp i want when i want her. Im not lazy im busy as heck with a boner i think not.
