Is it ok to walk away if an SP changes an appointment last minute?

[tobleroney]

Had an appointment with an SP for 3:15pm and had booked at 1pm over text. I booked a 30 minute session. She said that works.

I get there at 3:05pm and text her that im there. No answer.

She replies at 3:20pm saying she's busy and can only do a 15 minute session for almost the same price as the 30 minute session.

I say no thank you and I'd rather see her when she has more time.

She basically replies back saying how I wasted her time and that she's not coming back for a year etc etc.

Wtf are you supposed to do in this kind of situation? She got me to etransfer her money before we met which means she has my name so I can't even write a bad review about it or anything. I haven't done this in about 10 months so I guess I'll go back to my dry spell.

 

[Lo-ki]

E-transfer are way to easy to get screwed on.
I only did it once for a small deposit that I knew if she cancelled, it was no great lost.

 

[Mr Quim]

Had an appointment with an SP for 3:15pm and had booked at 1pm over text. I booked a 30 minute session. She said that works.

I get there at 3:05pm and text her that im there. No answer.

She replies at 3:20pm saying she's busy and can only do a 15 minute session for almost the same price as the 30 minute session.

I say no thank you and I'd rather see her when she has more time.

She basically replies back saying how I wasted her time and that she's not coming back for a year etc etc.

Wtf are you supposed to do in this kind of situation? She got me to etransfer her money before we met which means she has my name so I can't even write a bad review about it or anything. I haven't done this in about 10 months so I guess I'll go back to my dry spell.

Was this a well reviewed Lady, You tried too see ?

Where did You, come across her Ad ?

And the E-Transfer, You made, was for the entire Session fee ?
Not just, a partial Deposit ?

Unless, You have a S.O., and a fear of possibly affecting that Relationship ?
I'd strongly suggest, writing that Review !

Just an Example, of how, it helps out !

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?258837-Ava-Love-TantraBliss-com-1350-Rude-Waste-of-time-WOT

Just a Reference...

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?237502-Couple-of-different-reviews

Reputable Ladies, usually make amends ?

Scammers on the other Hand, keep getting away with It, until They're exposed !

That's pretty much, what this Site, is all about ?

Just my 2Cents...

Hope it helps ?

Cheers

P.S. In my Experience, last Minute arrangements, have a pretty poor Track Record with a new Lady !
Repeats, with a quality Lady, not an Issue if She happens to be available ?

 

[westwoody]

Had an appointment with an SP for 3:15pm...She replies at 3:20pm saying she's busy

She didn't lose any money if she was doing another customer in the time you had booked.
You are the one whose time was wasted.
Frankly this sounds like the behaviour of a "manager". Pack as many customers in as possible.

Go ahead and give her a bad review. No woman with class would do this. They don't like other women giving them a bad rep by association.

 

[grizzly]

I think I would be wary of writing a negative review if I was in tobleroney's shoes. She has his real name from the etransfer. A negative review could possibly fuel a whole host of problems for him even if he doesn't have a SO. Thank you just the same for this thread, it maybe a reminder to gentlemen to never agree to an etransfer. If we all refuse, hopefully the demand for deposits will reduce the requests and scams.

 

[ElsiDawson]

A negative review could possibly fuel a whole host of problems for him even if he doesn't have a SO. Thank you just the same for this thread, it maybe a reminder to gentlemen to never agree to an etransfer. If we all refuse, hopefully the demand for deposits will reduce the requests and scams.

We need to find an amenable middle ground between deposits and No Call No Shows. I'm totally open to suggestions.

I don't take deposits while I'm in town because I work from home so a NCNS doesn't put me out on an incall fee, but clients can be terribly flaky. I could write a poem with the excuses I've had this week from clients who booked out and bailed day-of without so much as a six-pack apology. If you're doing your due diligence and not booking Insta-scams, I feel like a deposit for a new client without references shouldn't be high treason--reputable SPs aren't interested in trading in the good names they've built over $100.

So, grizzly, what suggestions do you have? OP's situation is certainly one where he should feel comfortable either asking for his deposit back or posting a negative review. But in other circumstances where the clients are prone to disappear if they don't have any skin in the game, what do you suggest?

 

[uncleg]

Post and be done with it....if are afraid to step up if/when you get fucked over then this is the wrong "hobby" for you.

 

[Stamkos]

Post and be done with it....if are afraid to step up if/when you get fucked over then this is the wrong "hobby" for you.

Easy for you to say uncleg, its not your first and last name that’s out there along with the inherent risk.
OP don’t be stupid, you learned your lesson. If anyone wants to know the details they can PM you. Don’t make the situation worse for yourself!!

Better luck next time.

 

[badbadboy]

Only etransfer to SP you have know already.

I realize many won't see guys without references but this is just wrong. You were gamed and I'd bet you weren't the first one. She or the handler knew they had better odds of keeping the money without a public protest.

Personally I would not see one who required a deposit if my references were not adequate.

See reputable SP or agencies who have a brand to protect. They won't treat you this poorly.

 

[bobjob]

This is a prime example of why I would never, ever e-Transfer an SP, not even a deposit. She has nothing to lose by cancelling the appt. If they ask for an e-Transfer, it is the last time I will ever contact them...I don't care who they are.

 

[Mr Quim]

Yes, this controversial Topic, has been discussed quite a bit over the last few Months .

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?257137-Deposits-amp-E-Transfers

I personally, could live with a partial Deposit, of up to $150 at the most . I still, would only consider that, with a well reviewed Lady .
As It's been mentioned, most reputable Ladies, aren't going to compromise their Reputation over a $100 - $150 Deposit ?

I've noticed some Touring Ladies, with a 50% Deposit requirement, which would put Me out of the running .

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?39-%26%23926%3B-Vancouver-%9B-Escort-Ads

Even with, stellar Reviews !

https://perb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?247684-Carmen-Flavia


That Risk & Reward, is too great, for my comfort !

The Gift Card option seems to Me, to be the most workable, while maintaining the Client's anonymity ?

There's got to be, a happy medium, somewhere ?

Cheers

P.S. References seem to be, a big giant pain in the Ass, for Everyone concerned ?
There doesn't seem to be an Industry standard, or modicum form ?
And when a SP asks for 2, I've got to ask, WTF ? LOL
Does She, really want to hand-out multiple Reference requests, for her previous Clients ?

 

[uncleg]

Easy for you to say uncleg, its not your first and last name that’s out there along with the inherent risk.
OP don’t be stupid, you learned your lesson. If anyone wants to know the details they can PM you. Don’t make the situation worse for yourself!!

Better luck next time.

My name might not be out there, but I haven't exactly been bashful in regards to having my face posted on this site, plus as mentioned elsewhere, I have been approached and addressed as uncleg based on people recognizing my dog. Yes, I am married and do have a couple of businesses that have me in contact with the public and with public officials.

The point is this, the SP in this case has something to lose as well, even if it's her ability to pull this same shit on somebody else in the future. In this case she pockets a hundred bucks, or whatever...think she'll risk that against the chance of pocketing a grand in the future ?

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted to help put an end to this kind of behaviour by SP's. To let the bad apples get away with it doesn't help anybody on either side of the transaction.

 

[Stamkos]

My name might not be out there, but I haven't exactly been bashful in regards to having my face posted on this site, plus as mentioned elsewhere, I have been approached and addressed as uncleg based on people recognizing my dog. Yes, I am married and do have a couple of businesses that have me in contact with the public and with public officials.

The point is this, the SP in this case has something to lose as well, even if it's her ability to pull this same shit on somebody else in the future. In this case she pockets a hundred bucks, or whatever...think she'll risk that against the chance of pocketing a grand in the future ?

Sometimes you have to stand up and be counted to help put an end to this kind of behaviour by SP's. To let the bad apples get away with it doesn't help anybody on either side of the transaction.

I hear you uncleg and I’m aware you’re very forthcoming on Perb and I commend you for it. Not everyone is in the same situation though.
OP has to do what’s right for him first. There are other means of getting the information out without compromising himself.
Either way, it’s a shitty situation and hopefully this thread, as it is, will make pooners think twice when making a decision on a little known SP, particularly when upfront e-transfers are involved.

 

[UhOh]

Exposing her would be great but she simply changes her name and it business as usual.

 

[treveller]

This is a common problem in business with a well established solution. An escrow service would hold funds until they are cleared to be released. It could also provide anonymity. Probably more trouble that it would be worth and the details could be complicated but the problem and the solution are well known. Just search "escrow service". If sex workers in BC or Canada were better organized this could be a service that brought in more business and provided a more professional reputation while protecting both parties.

 

[firecracker-84]

Had an appointment with an SP for 3:15pm and had booked at 1pm over text. I booked a 30 minute session. She said that works.

I get there at 3:05pm and text her that im there. No answer.

She replies at 3:20pm saying she's busy and can only do a 15 minute session for almost the same price as the 30 minute session.

I say no thank you and I'd rather see her when she has more time.

She basically replies back saying how I wasted her time and that she's not coming back for a year etc etc.

Wtf are you supposed to do in this kind of situation? She got me to etransfer her money before we met which means she has my name so I can't even write a bad review about it or anything. I haven't done this in about 10 months so I guess I'll go back to my dry spell.

Did you do any research on the lady before transferring the funds??

 

[grizzly]

We need to find an amenable middle ground between deposits and No Call No Shows. I'm totally open to suggestions.

I don't take deposits while I'm in town because I work from home so a NCNS doesn't put me out on an incall fee, but clients can be terribly flaky. I could write a poem with the excuses I've had this week from clients who booked out and bailed day-of without so much as a six-pack apology. If you're doing your due diligence and not booking Insta-scams, I feel like a deposit for a new client without references shouldn't be high treason--reputable SPs aren't interested in trading in the good names they've built over $100.

So, grizzly, what suggestions do you have? OP's situation is certainly one where he should feel comfortable either asking for his deposit back or posting a negative review. But in other circumstances where the clients are prone to disappear if they don't have any skin in the game, what do you suggest?

I maybe the wrong person to ask for a suggestion on the providers perspective, as I'm not a provider and don't experience the no shows and dealing with clients who don't or won't provide a reference. Unfortunately to many unscrupulous characters are asking for deposits like in tobleroney's experience. I will never agree to a deposit, but I do offer my board handles and have solid references and I don't ever pull a no show.

I will say, a regular lady I see who travels occasionally does not ask for deposits. If the client can't or won't provide board handles and have a positive posting history or can't or won't provide a solid reference, she will decline the visit. Does this hurt her bottom line? Probably. She is possibly missing out on positive new clients, but at the same token, she hasn't had a no show in over a year and the majority of her clientele are repeat visitors.

 

[firecracker-84]

My suggestion is to always take time to do your homework before sending a deposit or a full session payment. Never use E-transfer when you're suffering from a boner emergency situation. An advance deposit of a modest fee to a reputable provider you've done your research on is one thing. But if it's a full session payment, wouldn't it be reasonable to wait until you arrive to give the password?

 

[Mr Quim]

My suggestion is to always take time to do your homework before sending a deposit or a full session payment. Never use E-transfer when you're suffering from a boner emergency situation. An advance deposit of a modest fee to a reputable provider you've done your research on is one thing. But if it's a full session payment, wouldn't it be reasonable to wait until you arrive to give the password?

I think, that's great Advice !

Always do, your utmost "Due Diligence", to CYA !

Time is Money... ?

Spend the Time, and You'll save some Money, IMHO !

Cheers

 

[sevenofnine]

no fucking way

no fucking way would I e transfer even a deposit
or give my name,
not in this life time

but I guess,
my sp knows who I am, I showed her my drivers licence once upon a time. but I have know her for so long.

and even though I have know her for over a dozen years,
I put the money in her hot little hands, that is the only way it goes down,
why would you,

over the course of time, she has cancelled on me, I have cancelled on her,
life happens. so why pay for a service you have yet to receive.
I will catch you next time baby,

only one other sp knows my real name,
she is a travelling sp has a long history that I researched over multiple websites.
plus my emails and her posts, told me her reputation is important too her.
so I trusted her and gave her my full name when requested,

but I wouldn't really put up with much, im a regular with someone the lady still travels.

what im trying to say
is get in good with one or two sp's and you don't have to put up with any other bull shit