Is it just me

[shellen47]

Is it just me or are men becoming more and more weak when it comes to women?
Its like, on one hand, you have a HUGE amount of men that have just checked out. Zero interest in dating, sex, females in general.
On the other hand, you have all these guys that completely fall all over themselves for any woman that pays attention to them. You even see it here on the forum. Eg, an SP gets involved in a thread and all of a sudden all these guys jump all over everything they say and almost...beg(?) for some kind of interaction with them even just via the forum.
Am I going nuts or is this actually a thing people are noticing?

 

[westwoody]

It’s just you.

 

[taster]

Getting a good nights sleep is underrated

 

[Neelsmith1234]

Is it just me or are men becoming more and more weak when it comes to women?
Its like, on one hand, you have a HUGE amount of men that have just checked out. Zero interest in dating, sex, females in general.
On the other hand, you have all these guys that completely fall all over themselves for any woman that pays attention to them. You even see it here on the forum. Eg, an SP gets involved in a thread and all of a sudden all these guys jump all over everything they say and almost...beg(?) for some kind of interaction with them even just via the forum.
Am I going nuts or is this actually a thing people are noticing?

Dating has become extremely difficult in this age of social media, short attention spans, instant gratification and excess materialism. From my point of view, its rare to meet a genuine woman wanting to meet a good person. Many will say that they want to meet a nice guy, but in the real world, they will prioritize other things like how rich the guy is, appearance, .......... There also seems to be this expectation that every date will be fun and exhilarating. Money is another sore point. Too many times, im expected to pay and I'm not one to ask the woman to pay her share. Her silence gives a clear message. Im a saver and put money aside for old age and I've had women walk away from me because I dont "live in the moment".

Sometimes I wish we were in simpler times.

 

[Banged_Up]

Some people have been members here for two years, or more and what is their contribution to the REVIEW part of the board? You know, the actual purpose of the board and you contribute not a single review?
Social commentary is interesting. Slagging others that exist in worlds that I have no knowledge of or interest in is not valuable.
Studying the psychology of current humanity on a sex worker review board is akin to eating a banana with your asshole. It’s fun, it’s messy and it’s absolutely pointless.
I’ve said it before and now I find myself saying it again “don’t go into the lounge, never go into the lounge”.

 

[luvsdaty]

I just enjoy the peace of being single. I recently dated a dismissive avoidant and boy let me tell you what a shit show!!!
She enjoyed the validation of being pursued but didn't want the responsibility/accountability of diving in more seriously.
Not all her fault as she was emotionally neglected as a child ,so she had no coping skills when her nervous system was triggered.

 

[shellen47]

I just enjoy the peace of being single. I recently dated a dismissive avoidant and boy let me tell you what a shit show!!!
She enjoyed the validation of being pursued but didn't want the responsibility/accountability of diving in more seriously.
Not all her fault as she was emotionally neglected as a child ,so she had no coping skills when her nervous system was triggered.

Sounds like we date the same women!

 

[luvsdaty]

Sounds like we date the same women!

Honestly, the 1st time I've ever dated someone with an avoidant attachment style.
It was an eye opener..

 

[Pumped]

I just enjoy the peace of being single. I recently dated a dismissive avoidant and boy let me tell you what a shit show!!!
She enjoyed the validation of being pursued but didn't want the responsibility/accountability of diving in more seriously.
Not all her fault as she was emotionally neglected as a child ,so she had no coping skills when her nervous system was triggered.

At some point people need to start acting like adults regardless of the 'past/triggers' etc. It takes work to be an adult and too many people simply don't want to take on that responsibility and grow up.

No one is perfect, but we can all try to be better than we are now.

 

[luvsdaty]

At some point people need to start acting like adults regardless of the 'past/triggers' etc. It takes work to be an adult and too many people simply don't want to take on that responsibility and grow up.

No one is perfect, but we can all try to be better than we are now.

Yup,she said she was going to see a counselor (I did) then she went no contact for 4 months.
When she reconnected, I asked her if she had talked to a counselor and she said no,so it was bye bye 👋

 

[Newuser505]

You even see it here on the forum. Eg, an SP gets involved in a thread and all of a sudden all these guys jump all over everything they say and almost...beg(?) for some kind of interaction with them even just via the forum.
Am I going nuts or is this actually a thing people are noticing?

Naw thats in your head. Im replying to your post right now. Am i also jumping over everything you say and hoping to get interaction?

The girls here are smart too. They know its bad for business if they're confrontational, so they are usually charming and non-aggressive, which makes them easier to agree with.

 

[DV6]

I just enjoy the peace of being single. I recently dated a dismissive avoidant and boy let me tell you what a shit show!!!
She enjoyed the validation of being pursued but didn't want the responsibility/accountability of diving in more seriously.
Not all her fault as she was emotionally neglected as a child ,so she had no coping skills when her nervous system was triggered.

They ALL enjoy being pursued! lol.
Finding one that actually enjoys long term commitment is pretty much dead as disco.

 

[richboy93]

I think this outlook on the world depends on how much time you spend online and what type of media you consume. All my friends that are online a lot and/or listen to certain podcasts believe that modern men are weak and modern women can't be serious about their relationships, and plenty of other stereotypes/generalizations. On the other hand my friends that are more present in the real world (as opposed to online) are getting married and have good jobs and generally just happier. that's not to say there aren't men and women with problems, but it's not as bad as the internet makes it out to be.

also someone else said this, but using a forum (especially this one) to generalize to all men and women is just laughable.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I think it's all part of the negativity we're surrounded with.

We're told over and over how bad things are. We have looming pandemics, bird flu, regular flu, the economy is crashing, Trump, Putin, Eby.

You'll never get a good job, own a house, afford a car, meet someone special, ever be out of debt, you're the wrong sex, you're overweight, don't "get it" when all around you are the cool kids.

With all that, it's easier to log on, stay home and game.

 

[MauiMan]

Dating is a wasteland. Online and app dating has killed it for most guys, with only the most attractive men getting matched regularly. The majority of men are rejected 90% of the time. 4B, sugar dating, man/bear memes and other movements among the ladies have warped perception and expectations. Men have been beaten into submission It's really not that surprising to see guys starved for the slightest bit of positive feedback from a lady losing their minds and becoming simps when they get some. It's driven many into the incel life, which is sad and just not the right reaction. Get used to it, it's not going away anytime soon.

 

[carvesg]

Dating is a wasteland. Online and app dating has killed it for most guys, with only the most attractive men getting matched regularly. The majority of men are rejected 90% of the time. 4B, sugar dating, man/bear memes and other movements among the ladies have warped perception and expectations. Men have been beaten into submission It's really not that surprising to see guys starved for the slightest bit of positive feedback from a lady losing their minds and becoming simps when they get some. It's driven many into the incel life, which is sad and just not the right reaction. Get used to it, it's not going away anytime soon.

If we resume it would be that its time to get out in the real world to socialize and have proper interaction with people.

 

[MauiMan]

If we resume it would be that its time to get out in the real world to socialize and have proper interaction with people.

Exactly. Get out an join a club, attend a meetup group, hell even events and adventures is a better way to meet like minded people than using apps or websites. Drop the entitlement mentality, just say hello to people. Walk your dog, or your elderly neighbour's dog and talk to people at the dog park. There's a lot of ways to socialize with others outside of the internet.

 

[DV6]

I think this outlook on the world depends on how much time you spend online and what type of media you consume. All my friends that are online a lot and/or listen to certain podcasts believe that modern men are weak and modern women can't be serious about their relationships, and plenty of other stereotypes/generalizations. On the other hand my friends that are more present in the real world (as opposed to online) are getting married and have good jobs and generally just happier. that's not to say there aren't men and women with problems, but it's not as bad as the internet makes it out to be.

also someone else said this, but using a forum (especially this one) to generalize to all men and women is just laughable.

I agree there’s still couples out there trying to make it work. But I can honestly say it’s not online where I see the decline in healthy relationships.
Almost everyone I know ( both male & female ) are either dancing from one relationship to another every 3-5 months, or just getting over the last 4-5 year marriage that left them both brokenhearted and fighting over who gets the kids on the weekend.
I do think it’s possible for relationships to exist outside this online sex based industry.
But the days of people planning a life together and actually making it last, definitely isn’t what it use to be.
The era of husband & wife / soulmate type situations, seems to be more like the rare sighting of an albino Owl these days.
🦉

 

[richboy93]

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The era of husband & wife / soulmate type situations, seems to be more like the rare sighting of an albino Owl these days.
🦉

I think this was exceedingly rare in the past, even more so than these days. Women married men because they HAD to have a husband (for social and financial reasons), men had to put no effort into being a decent person except the bare minimum (bring home the bacon, don't beat your wife,...). how many soulmate marriages could there possibly have been in that environment? how many faked it because of the intense social pressure?

in practically every statistic life has been getting better for the last few hundred years (at least), but people always seem to think the opposite when questioned. I don't think relationships are any different. People think it's getting worse but I doubt that's the case.

 

[DV6]

I think this outlook on the world depends on how much time you spend online and what type of media you consume. All my friends that are online a lot and/or listen to certain podcasts believe that modern men are weak and modern women can't be serious about their relationships, and plenty of other stereotypes/generalizations. On the other hand my friends that are more present in the real world (as opposed to online) are getting married and have good jobs and generally just happier. that's not to say there aren't men and women with problems, but it's not as bad as the internet makes it out to be.

also someone else said this, but using a forum (especially this one) to generalize to all men and women is just laughable.

I agree there’s still couples out there trying to make it work. But I can honestly say it’s not online where I see the decline in healthy relationships.
Almost everyone I know ( both male & female ) are either dancing from one relationship to another every 3-5 months, or just getting over the last 4-5 year marriage that left them both brokenhearted and fighting over who gets the kids on the weekends.
I do think it’s possible for relationships to exist outsidethis online sex based industry.
But the days of people planning a life together and actually making it last, definitely isn’t what it use to be.
The era of husband & wife / soulmate type situations, seems to be more like the rare sighting of an albino Owl.

I think this was exceedingly rare in the past, even more so than these days. Women married men because they HAD to have a husband (for social and financial reasons), men had to put no effort into being a decent person except the bare minimum (bring home the bacon, don't beat your wife,...). how many soulmate marriages could there possibly have been in that environment? how many faked it because of the intense social pressure?

in practically every statistic life has been getting better for the last few hundred years (at least), but people always seem to think the opposite when questioned. I don't think relationships are any different. People think it's getting worse but I doubt that's the case.

Well, everyone definitely has a right to their own opinions.
I see a lot more happier couples in their 40s, 50s and 60s over people in their 20 and 30s.
But that’s just my perspective.