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Sadly it won't be enough for some to condemn his actions . They will still come up with some kind of excuse and the use of free speech to feel better about their views.

Obviously his defenders would not dare doing or repeating musk's views publicly by fear of being ostracized, loosing their jobs , contracts and reputation and rightly so.
 
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I request dont goto that road to question my integrity to keep it civilised. I wont give a fuck about this board, liberal, Elon, Trump or your opinion, but I take my integrity extremely seriously and will goto any length to defend it.
What integrity? You support a guy who pardoned 1600 criminals (some of them violent) , pardoned the people around him who were convicted of conspiring with Russia ( even though its all a hoax according to the right) , and escaped criminal prosicution not by proving innocence but by running out the clock.

You say ' well the libs do this' but all that would show at best is that *no* parties have integrity. Its a no win for you.

So again, what integrity? Thats just virtue signalling on your part, like Musks Nazi salute was to his proud boy oath keeper criminal constituents.
 

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What integrity? You support a guy who pardoned 1600 criminals (some of them violent) , pardoned the people around him who were convicted of conspiring with Russia ( even though its all a hoax according to the right) , and escaped criminal prosicution not by proving innocence but by running out the clock.

You say ' well the libs do this' but all that would show at best is that *no* parties have integrity. Its a no win for you.

So again, what integrity? Thats just virtue signalling on your part, like Musks Nazi salute was to his proud boy oath keeper criminal constituents.
fuck off you deranged and delusional psychos who lost all rationality. supporters of war mongers, haters of common sense, killers of opposition, you can sit on dead bodies and do politics.

 
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Since we are talking about Nazis.............

Tomorrow is International Holocaust Remembrance Day, or the International Day in Memory of the Victims of the Holocaust, which is an international memorial day on 27 January that commemorates the victims of the Holocaust, which resulted in the genocide of one third of the Jewish people, along with countless members of other minorities by Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1945, an attempt to implement its "final solution" to the Jewish question. 27 January was chosen to commemorate the date when the Auschwitz concentration camp was liberated by the Red Army in 1945.

The day remembers the killing of six million Jews, two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population, and millions of other non-Jews s by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.
 

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Since we are talking about Nazis.............

Tomorrow is International Holocaust Remembrance Day, or the International Day in Memory of the Victims of the Holocaust, which is an international memorial day on 27 January that commemorates the victims of the Holocaust, which resulted in the genocide of one third of the Jewish people, along with countless members of other minorities by Nazi Germany between 1933 and 1945, an attempt to implement its "final solution" to the Jewish question. 27 January was chosen to commemorate the date when the Auschwitz concentration camp was liberated by the Red Army in 1945.

The day remembers the killing of six million Jews, two-thirds of Europe's Jewish population, and millions of other non-Jews s by the Nazi regime and its collaborators.
Thank you for reminding us !
 

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This thread is so ridiculous. It's why I had to join this forum.

Let me tell you that Musk may or may not be a Nazi, racist, child beater, wife beater, and he may or may not strangle cute puppies with his bare hands on Sundays for fun.

It's all irrelevent. It's about his private life, and his private thoughs and emotions. His job is to send stuff into space and build electric cars. And he apparently does a good job of it because every liberal I know around here drives a Tesla.

If he can build good cars while screaming Nazi shit at the top of his lungs, all the power to him. I don't care. I wouldn't get caught dead driving an electric car, if it was made by a Nazi or a socialist, or anyone in between.

Any time a public figure is being character assassinated, it's likely all bullshit.

And you guys need to brush up on your Nazi history. What he did only remotely looks like a Nazi salute. You might say it also looks like the American Bellamy salute:
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He simply has to give nicely felt apologize ! Along with a good explanation would help .

And ....oh sure one thread compelled you to join .

People joining to talk about the controversial topics but never compelled before for the main existential reason of this website. Gotta put some effort in other threads before being taken seriously then.... Otherwise most of us will assume that you are a returning member with handles we know all too well. Sorry but it will the assumption for a lot of us.

Et si tu essaies de te faire passer pour francophone avec ton pépé le pieu on peut "switcher" en anglais ou Frenglish if ça peut t'aider....
 
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Most people view the political spectrum as a simple ruler with left and right. I don't see it that way. I see it more as a circle with freedom on top. You can go to the left or the right from there, but either way, you eventually end up at the bottom where they look identical as totalitarianism.

But the flat ruler version is mind numbingly simple. You choose.

Fact is the word Nazi literally means national socialism. But the left likes to pretend the Nazi was a uniquely right wing thing. So they strongly fight against the simple meaning of the word Nazi.

The Nazi party did start as a socialist party, as your link rightly pointed out. And it eventually ended up being totalitarian and genocidal, which is where both the left and the right end up when pushed further.
That's not how people view the political spectrum, that's literally what it is, whether you believe it or not. Totalitarianism is right wing. The further you get to the left, the more individual liberties you get, until you get to anarchism, which is the polar opposite of totalitarianism.

The People's Democratic Republic of Korea, by it's name, should be a democracy, but the reality is completely different. If you think a name defines a thing, you must find buffalo wings similarly confusing.

As pointed out, Hitler quickly killed all of the socialists and communists from the party, eliminating any sense of relation to those philosophies. The Nazi party under Hitler was a clearly right wing, fascist, totalitarian regime that ultimately had nothing to do with socialism.


Lastly, this is how Musk responded to such criticism:

"Don’t say Hess to Nazi accusations! Some people will Goebbels anything down! Stop Gőring your enemies! His pronouns would’ve been He/Himmler!"
 

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I had to read this again. You are aware that goverent control of health care is a socialist left wing idea, right?
You are aware that Marx himself advocated to government price control, government interest rate control, government land control, government control of education, farming .....

You go too far to the left, you end up in totalitarian communist hell.
You have not read Marx. At all. If you had, you would know that Marxist communism is stateless. There is no government to control anything or to force anyone to do anything. Which is why it's right next to anarchy. Marx describes the whithering away of the state, where governmental control ceases to be necessary, and ultimately, government doesn't do much of anything at all. Everything you're talking about sounds like it just comes from some silly Fox News article just repeating dumb Republican misinformation by people who have no idea of what they're talking about.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state

You can call your circle whatever you want, but it's not the left-right political spectrum, period. There are all sorts of two axes graphs combining multiple factors, but the political spectrum describing left and right is just exactly that, a single axis line through space, lacking any vertical component.

Yes, the original founders of the Nazi party were socialists, but Hitler wasn't. He purged and killed them all, and completely changed the ideology of the party. By this point, it was no longer socialist at all. If you were talking about the party in 1919, you might have a point. But certainly not at all by the time of world war two. This has already been explained. Hitler's Nazi party was squarely right wing.

I think Musk's Nazi salute says more about Donald Trump, than anyone. He's had numerous instances of Nazism at his rallies, and every time people make dumb excuses for it. Even including his own not so veiled quotes directly from Hitler's speeches.

And libertarianism is just a rebranding of liberalism. Which is why it's also called neo-liberalism. And that's why it shares the same root word with liberalism... Liberty. The original libertarians were anarchists, socialists and communists. The first person to call themselves a libertarian was literally a communist.

"In the mid-19th century, libertarianism originated as a form of anti-authoritarian and anti-statepolitics usually seen as being on the left (like socialists and anarchists especially social anarchists, but more generally libertarian communists/Marxists and libertarian socialists). Along with seeking to abolish or reduce the power of the State, these libertarians sought to abolish capitalism and private ownership of the means of production, or else to restrict their purview or effects to usufructproperty norms, in favor of commonor cooperative ownership and management, viewing private property in the means of production as a barrier to freedom and liberty."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

"Anarchist communist philosopher Joseph Déjacque was the first person to describe himself as a libertarian in an 1857 letter... According to anarchist historian Max Nettlau, the first use of the term libertarian communism was in November 1880, when a French anarchist congress employed it to identify its doctrines more clearly."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
 

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This coming from the person who tried to tell me I am faking being French? You would do well to stop trying to point your stoopit fat finger at me and focus on what I write.



Yes, Marx was a retard and an idiot. He advocated for state control.of land, money issuance, credit, education, health care, farm land, and the list goes on....
And somehow complete government control of everything is going to result in a stateless society?
Socialists and communists are strong on ideology and theory. But basic logic and common sense, not so much....



Marx called for government control of virtually every aspect of life. And somehow, a powerful taxing and overbearing government is going to result in a withering of government? That is just absurd. No wonder no communist country has ever turned into anything resembling anarchy.



Okay, your perpetual ridiculous attacks at me are getting really annoying. Your crystal ball is cracked, my friend. You are very annoying and I likely won't respond to you anymore.

I though you would have stopped at accusing me of being a fake French. But it looks ad hominen is what you do best.
I've never said anything about you being or not being french, lol. But Marxist communism literally has nothing to do with government control of much of anything. Because, as has already been exhaustively demonstrated to you very thoroughly, complete with supporting references and documentation, Marxism is stateless and any government apparatus atrophies as it becomes useless and inoperative, until society slides into a bit of utopian anarchism. Which is how and why it gave birth to the very first libertarians. Again, it just sounds like you're repeating stuff you got from a Fox News comment thread, as it's not based on anything that Marx ever wrote.

Night!
 
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