Well said. Vancouver will never win a Stanley Cup with Cloutier 'cause Cloutier will never win the cup. Trade 'em all and get a goalie who has been to the big game and won.Devils_Advocate said:I'd love to see Cloutier gone... But Dave Nonis seems to have the same 'inability to pull a trade' diease that plagued Brian Burke. Cloutier, Bertuzzi, Jovonoski, Morrison, should all be packing their bags this summer. Unfortunately none of them are is going to be worth much on the trade market.
The Canucks need to make changes this off season.
Sonny, you threw Joseph in there just to fuck with everybody, right? Unlike the others listed, he's never won the Cup, and never been close despite playing on several teams who considered themselves legit Stanley Cup contenders. Ask any of his past team-mates over a cold one and they'll tell you they love the guy but can't win with him. Actually, that's just what the media and majority of Canucks fans deserve.Those active 'big game winners' would be: Ed Belfour, Martin Brodeur, Dominik Hasek, Curtis Joseph, Nikolai Khabibulin, Chris Osgood. Some you will never get and some you probably don't want.