Industry Standards

[AA_Train]

I read in one of the posts in the Quality thread something about industry standards, but what industry standards? As far as i know, there are no official registered organizations that regulates and sets forth industry standards. It's all arbitrary and diifers from SP to SP. If I get ripped off or sttod up, am I supposed to go to the BBB and report them? Are they gonna be fined? No. If you get ripped off, your out X amount of dollars with nothing to show for it but a hard dick and an empty wallet. We can't control prices or booking policies, we pretty much have to accept it or go without. Sure we have these boards to post our reviews and our intel but all we have have as pooners is the word of the SP which with some is solid but with some isn't worth the toilet paper we wipe our ass with.

I do have a question to go with that rant. Let's say that tomoorow a BBB type organization(s) for SPs and other sex trade workers was officially set up, what are some standards and regulations that they should be held to and what should happen if those are broken? Also, what measures should be in place to protect these workers? (I am aware it's a double -edged sword)

 

[uncleg]

Service commensurate with payment. Truth in advertising.

But even if an SP BBB existed, what could they do, give bad reviews ? We already do that here, as well as give good ones and in the end that is all the BBB really does. They have no real enforcement powers and all they can do is boot a member out of the organization.

 

[ihatemyskirt]

I think that there are certain "industry standards" that are common sense in the invisible section of the unwritten escort policies book. It's not available at bookstores near you and it's sort of hard to understand sorry.

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[AA_Train]

I think that there are certain "industry standards" that are common sense in the invisible section of the unwritten escort policies book. It's not available at bookstores near you and it's sort of hard to understand sorry.

The end

There are many things many of us consider common sense but these days common sense just isn't that common anymore. The reason I started this thread is to prove that there are no industry standards, no going rates, no procedures it's all arbitrary. I've read in too many threads the mention of these things and they just don't exist and i don't think antone should dillude themselves in believing they exist, unspoken or not.

 

[Maverick_opp]

Well I think a good comparison to this is..... the "criminals unwritten code".... No book written on it, but people like rapists, and child rapists, are put into seperate cells from the general popution, because they broke the "unwritten code" that even criminals have, and would be dead.... Just like the "criminals unwritten code" so do Escorts.

Now that all being said, you can also say that there has been a decline in the criminals out there that follow this "unwritten code", as I would say the same with the escorts out there. I find it more, and more common that you phone up... promised one service.... show up, and pay up front, and get a secondary service.

I guess what I am getting at is, Buyer BE WARE!!!!

 

[Good Gloria]

Where is the manual?

SP's are given no manual, and should one find herself without a buddy system of girlfriends, then it can be lonely and confusing place. A few phone calls and private messages to those established can be helpful, but there are so many aspects to providing service that a manual is indeed needed.

From advertising, how complicted such a seemily simple task can be, to the thousands of little details that have to be attended to for a Lady to be her best and give the best. So much to learn....There is no manual.
Some ladies have girl clubs/ get togethers/ a network, (another area difficult to get into) those ladies seem to stand out amoung the crowd. Their popularity and success is noticable.
They may not have a manual, but surely they could write it...as has been noted prior in one of these threads.
(A suggested chapter would be one for the coumputer dummy!)

just my humble opinion and thoughs..

 

[ihatemyskirt]

Thankyou to Planetman for taking the low road and proving that it wouldn't matter if this industry had policies, most would ignore them anyhow. Sp's and clients.

 

[Lesbian Hunter]

A Better Business Bureau type of organization would not work in the SP business because SPs are independent contractors. They work for themselves. If you don't like the service move on and find a woman who gives you what you're after. It's a numbers game.

I work as an independent contractor in the business I'm in and make my own rules about how I conduct business. When I get a contract from a client, I do the best job I can.

The difference between me and an SP is that the work I do is my career. For most SPs, not all, it's not a career but simply a way to make some money. And believe me, some of them make very good money.

I have had the pleasure of meeting some very beautiful, intelligent SPs along the way, some of whom are now out of the business but still friends of mine. If you only knew what they had to deal with on teh other end of the telephone from guys who phone them you would be more sympathetic to their point of view. That's not to excuse bad service, it's only to point out that it works both ways.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Service commensurate with payment.

It would be interesting to see how it could be done.

 

[uncleg]

It would be interesting to see how it could be done.

????????????????????????????? HUH.

As you are a well reviewed SP, obviously you know how it's done.

It's the SP's that charge $300.00 per hour and provide a $100.00 per hour attitude and service.

 

[ihatemyskirt]

I think that everyone needs someone to stick up for them when they are going through rough times. It can help them to learn a lesson instead of growing bitterness and hatred for life. Bad choices are made by people every day and sometimes someone sticks up for those people and they go on to be better people than they were cuz they learned a lesson from the mistake they made. Sometimes people make a bad choice or two and not a single person helps them through it so they feel like everyones turning on them and they never really learn a lesson they grow bitter and evil and become a really really bad person and a serial killer. And it didn't have to go that far.

 

[AA_Train]

I think that everyone needs someone to stick up for them when they are going through rough times. It can help them to learn a lesson instead of growing bitterness and hatred for life. Bad choices are made by people every day and sometimes someone sticks up for those people and they go on to be better people than they were cuz they learned a lesson from the mistake they made. Sometimes people make a bad choice or two and not a single person helps them through it so they feel like everyones turning on them and they never really learn a lesson they grow bitter and evil and become a really really bad person and a serial killer. And it didn't have to go that far.

Point taken but if they are going through a rough patch it's probably bestthat they shut it down for a bit and sort things out, for both their clients sake and their own. Giving hal-assed service is insulting to their clients and will only damage them in the long run. Every SP should make their best effort to please their clients and if they don't feel up to it, they shouldn't be working. (Except I don't know how the serial killer thing fits into all this).

And uncleg, i don't know if your comment was directed at Miss Bijou but she is a $300/hour girl with a $1 million attitude. In fact, the only fault I could see with her is that she's too sweet.

 

[uncleg]

And uncleg, i don't know if your comment was directed at Miss Bijou but she is a $300/hour girl with a $1 million attitude. In fact, the only fault I could see with her is that she's too sweet.[/QUOTE]

WTF are you talking about ? What is it you think I'm saying to Ms.Bijou ?

 

[Miss*Bijou]

????????????????????????????? HUH.

As you are a well reviewed SP, obviously you know how it's done.

It's the SP's that charge $300.00 per hour and provide a $100.00 per hour attitude and service.

What I meant by that is more specifically how and who would determine what consists of $300/hr service vs $100/hr service. How would the level of service be the same expected from everyone for any given hourly fee? I just meant that although it sounds good in theory, it would be interesting to see how it could be applied. I'm not sure it could ever be that specific.

And that's all I meant. Does my explanation make more sense?

And uncleg, i don't know if your comment was directed at Miss Bijou but she is a $300/hour girl with a $1 million attitude. In fact, the only fault I could see with her is that she's too sweet.

awww.
I'm so used to all the flaming that goes on here, this was a nice little surprise. Thanks AA_Train.

I think that everyone needs someone to stick up for them when they are going through rough times. It can help them to learn a lesson instead of growing bitterness and hatred for life. Bad choices are made by people every day and sometimes someone sticks up for those people and they go on to be better people than they were cuz they learned a lesson from the mistake they made. Sometimes people make a bad choice or two and not a single person helps them through it so they feel like everyones turning on them and they never really learn a lesson they grow bitter and evil and become a really really bad person and a serial killer. And it didn't have to go that far.

That makes a lot of sense to me.
Sometimes you have to put yourself out when it will mean a lot to and for the other person, and there isn't anyone else stepping up.
It's way more important than trying to please others who don't get it and who's lives ultimately won't be affected either way or whatever you choose to do. If they can't see the big picture, it's really not your problem.

But for the most part, I think most people do get it. It doesn't seem that way because the minority that don't see it, just usually happen to also be the loudest ones.

 

[uncleg]

What I meant by that is more specifically how and who would determine what consists of $300/hr service vs $100/hr service.

You primarily, would make that determination. If you are going to charge $300.00 per hour, will the experience you provide the client, be a $300.00 experience or a $100.00 experience. You have a rep, obviously well earned, so you have made the determination to provide service commensurate with price. Others have made the choice to charge $300.00 and provide a $100.00 experience. AA says you have a million dollar attitude, I'll take his word for it, and I'd say that was part of the $300.00 experience. On the flip side there are some that provide an experience equal to lubing up a knothole in a tree and humping that.

 

[Miss*Bijou]

Yes, but as an example: let's say I charge $300 and feel I'm providing service that is worth it. Maybe to you and most, another SP who would be giving really terrible awful service, would not be providing service that justifies the rate. OK, she's really terrible and everyone pretty much agrees that her service is so poor that it would not be worth $100. But what if there is no agreement, and some feel the SP's service was not quite good enough to justify $300 but $100 is too low?

My point is, how do you determine (and agree on) a 'standard' level of service? If an SP is asking for $300, what is the (specific) difference from one asking $250 or $100...? That's not quite how it works, it's very subjective and varies from one person to the next. Plus if you compare service from an SP asking $300/hr to service from an SP who makes $350/hr or $400/hr, do you expect a major difference in the level of service provided? I don't think you do or ever will, and that's why I think it would be very difficult to ever establish standard rates based of level of service.. because in most cases it just isn't that black and white.

 

[uncleg]

I don't think you do or ever will, and that's why I think it would be very difficult to ever establish standard rates based of level of service.. because in most cases it just isn't that black and white. [/QUOTE]

I agree with you on that, but remember, the premise of the thread was if there was a standard. As long as it is a "hidden" industry, there is not going to be a standard, that could be enforced. The only enforcement at present is economic, if you promise one experience, deliver another, your economics will suffer. An SP with a bad enough rep will either go out of business, or live off the bottom feeders. The way the industry operates in Canada, it is all subjective. Look at some of the threads on this Board, some guys seem to feel all SP's are over priced and under performing. Probably the only real way to have a standard is to have brothels. Go to Nevada, or Europe and any brothel you go to you know what you are going to get, within reason. Even here, go to an MP or AMP and you pretty well know what to expect for your buck. Yes, attitudes will differ as will some services, but not to the degree that at one joint you get the full-meal deal for $300.00 and at the next you get a handshake.

 

[ihatemyskirt]

i wish ihatemyskirt and her friends who have always been the ones who give questionable service , had read that invisible book she talks so loudly about!!!

My two closest girlfriends have never been accused of giving half assed, mediocre, lackluster, or even anything but full blown, eye contact included totally sex drenched service. Also have a few other friends on the board who are pretty horny, respected sp's.