Indo-Canadian what does that really mean?
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Because in the US, being butthurt is enough justification for a frivolous lawsuit.
I hate to break it to you, but India proper has one of the highest population of sex workers in the world.
I would agree that a larger number of Indian ancestry folks in Vancouver have a succesful family background and /or a strong religious community background, so the stigma from being discovered is greater; hence fewer prociders. I have also heard that some Indian men can be quite cruel to Indian providers ( first hand, from Indian providers) so much so that some providers blacklist them as a group.
The google search failed to point out the confusion between Indigenous Indian (Canada has an Indian Act you know), and Indians from India, as lukom above well pointed out.
I recall the time when this terminology came about. It seemed a bit of a PC move at the time, but it did clear up the distinction between India heritage Indians and Indigenous people. So ya, there could have been (and were) a lot worse terms being used at the time, but there wasn’t a clear acceptable alternative for people from India, and hence Indo-Canadian resolved the confusion in a politically acceptable way.
So although I believe in self-serve research, all the answers are NOT found in google, chat GPC, etc.
You do raise some valid points, however, your points are through a western lense. You really should research about caste, and the history of prostitution in india. Also the economic conditions in India dictates that indeed they would have a high number of service workers, however, from what I have researched, many are born into it.
Also don't forget india is the highest population in the world so the numbers will be obviously higher compared to other countries. Also, 99.9% of them are trafficked unfortunately. And it's mostly the lower caste people in the Indian caste system that do prostitution because of the inequality.
That's just wrong. There's a few bad apples from every race. They shouldn't be blacklisting Indians based on a few bad experiences maybe implement a better screening system then.Also I think it's a bad move blacklisting them that's cutting half of their customer base 😂
By not seeing ethnic Indians they reduce exposure. This is amongst the biggest reasons to disallow, although safety is paramount and ethnic indian men have a larger disrespect for these ladies, mostly due to remnants of the caste system.
You’re talking at each other instead of to each other.
Speaking of western lense: using “class” as it’s meant by people who think they’re rich in NA, when you mean caste. 😜 Hence the miscommunication.
All I heard was “I’m too lazy to actually do any reading.” If you knew anything about anything, you’d know that the Indian Act - which is no longer called that, but a spade is still a genocidal piece of legislation - was intentionally racist, and intentionally called that knowing the people in North America weren’t Indians. It should have been obvious from the get-go.
They blacklist Indians so they can’t encounter someone they know. Even ignoring the whole caste thing, Indians are WAY WAY WAY more hardcore about “keeping up with the joneses” and “keeping up appearances.” Being a toxically patriarchal country, the entire family = literal shit on your shoe if one female member is a sex worker.
The communities here are also significantly more insular, and so everyone knows someone who knows someone. “Scandalous” shit like sex work travels like *wildfire* and soon everyone will know. It’s a good way to get beaten to death by a male relative.
Lezbehonest… the overwhelming majority of men treat women like shit. It’s just that outside of NA and EU, it’s socially acceptable to do it in public.
From what I understand it is a person who has Indian ethnicity but born and raised in Canada.
There is no perfect way to describe something like ethnicity. (It's why the census asks it in like 3 or 4 different ways if you ever got that long form).
Ethnicity is mixed up with issues like language, and that is quite variable & complicated.
Race is just such a blunt instrument, just short hand for "mostly about identifying skin colour". "White, black, yellow?, red??- and then you say "brown" and that can mean so many things, it is near-useless.
"Indian" is a nationality, associated with a country that may or may not be in one piece, or many, depending what period in history you look at. (And this being Canada, people start those "status indian" jokes to confuse things.)
Then (usually white) people call them "Hindus" when what they mean might be Hindus, Sikhs, indian muslims, pakistanis, etc. - highly inaccurate if you do not really know & complicated by religious issues if you do. Then there's the fact that India has dozens of ethnic groups within what's considered "Indian" or "south Asian" culture.
As I see it: Indo-Canadian:
"Indo - " = of south Asian extraction/origin, by at least half according to blood quanta or by dominant family tradition.
South Asia = India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, Nepal, and to some degree Afghanistan too. But not including those who were British or Portugeuse expatriates living there in isolated colonial settings, except in part if there was some sort of intermarriage bearing offspring (considered south Asian).
However, extraction/origin can also denote long-standing expatriate / settler communities like those from Uganda, South Africa, Fiji, Trinidad, etc. that migrated from south Asia to those places (willingly or not) and then may have migrated again.
"-Canadian" = they are now either citizens or residents of Canada, or were born here and always have been. Culturally, south Asian, but also Canadian (increasingly over time).
So "Indo-Canadian" = south-asian bloodlines & cultural influence, but living life in Canada on a more than temporary basis (born here or naturalized citizen of Canada).
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