I'm surprised nobody is talking about the lastest Canuck

ddcanz

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So, if I've followed the trade sequence for Ryan Kesler to Anaheim and Nick Bonino to Pittsburgh correctly, it breaks down something like this:
Moving out-Kesler and Van's 2015 3rd round pick (to Anaheim); Adam Clendening, Bonino and Van's 2016 2nd round pick (to Pitt),.
Coming back- Bonino, Luca Sbisa, Anaheim's 2014 1st round pick- (#24- Jared McCann), Anaheim's 2014 3rd round pick- (#85- traded to the Rangers for Derek Dorsett); Brandon Sutter and Pittsburgh's 2016 3rd round pick.
So at the end of the day we lose Kesler, Clendenning and a 2016 3rd rounder. We acquire Sutter, Sbisa, McCann, Dorsett and a 2016 3rd rounder.
Looks to me like a pretty solid deal for a guy who didn't want to be here and had to go. Especially if McCann follows through on his rise as a top line OHL centre who had an amazing playoff run this year. He's a complete player, and got a bit of seasoning in the AHL this year with the Comets in their playoff run as well- huge potential.
 

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I'm pretty excited about having a SUTTER in the Canucks lineup again. I mean, if there is a family that has contributed more to the sport of Hockey than the Sutter 6, I don't know who it is. Yes, the Howes, the Hulls...but SIX brothers? As a lifetime 'nucks fan, Ronnie and Richie always have a place in my heart, but Brent was arguably the best hockey player of the six who played (though some argue Gary, who never played a pro game, was the best of the bunch.) and has also had a great coaching career! Talk about a kid who has grown up in the game!! (Yes, I have to admit I have reached the age where "everyone famous is someone famous's kid"!)
 

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Sure the Howes Gordie and his son Mark and Marty.
Then of course the Sutters (Rich, Ron, Darryl, Dwayne,Brian and brent) from Viking Alberta and their kids now.

The Hulls Bobby and Dennis. Then Bobby's son Brett.

The Richards Maurice and Henri.

Don't forgot one of the greatest international Hockey family of Anton, Marion and Peter Stastny. Of course Peter's sons Paul and Yan Stastny
Like Badger backs me up; SIX original Sutters and 2 of their kids so far. Any other hockey dynasties compare?
 

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I always considered the Sutter's as mid range "plumbers" i.e. third liners nothing special. By their sheer numbers (9) is firkin amazing though.

Richie tried hard but really there were sharper tools in the tool box. So many dumb moves, dumb penalties etc.

I liked the Courtnalls in their day. The Staal family showed promise too.

Here is a Wiki of the Families in NHL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_the_NHL
 
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I always considered the Sutter's as mid range "plumbers" i.e. third liners nothing special. By their sheer numbers (9) is firkin amazing though.

Richie tried hard but really there were sharper tools in the tool box. So many dumb moves, dumb penalties etc.

I liked the Courtnalls in their day. The Staal family showed promise too.

Here is a Wiki of the Families in NHL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_family_relations_in_the_NHL
That's my point BBB, she seems to be infatuated with numbers, typical Canuck fan.

Would you rather have one great session with Lucky Lake or six sessions with aunties from a massage parlor?

I'll try it again sweetie, quality trumps quantity, although I do respect their family.

But their family, or should I say dynasty,:rolleyes: cannot hold a candle to the Richard family, Christ, even hockey guru Bjohn agrees with me.

I assume Erica, that is your business model, quality over quantity?

Just as an aside, I can do more with 6 inches, than some people can do with 12 inches.

Not to brag or anything, but another example of quality over quantity.
 
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That's my point BBB, she seems to be infatuated with numbers, typical Canuck fan.

Would you rather have one great session with Lucky Lake or six sessions with aunties from a massage parlor?

I'll try it again sweetie, quality trumps quantity, although I do respect their family.

But their family, or should I say dynasty,:rolleyes: cannot hold a candle to the Richard family, Christ, even hockey guru Bjohn agrees with me.

I assume Erica, that is your business model, quality over quantity?

Just as an aside, I can do more with 6 inches, than some people can do with 12 inches.

Not to brag or anything, but another example of quality over quantity.
Yup...mid range players. They show up, they do their jobs, they don't bitch about it, and they know why they keep showing up!

OF COURSE quality trumps quantity, and yes it is my business model! Who wouldn't prefer it? But every once in a while when the marquee players all seem to be out of town, a reliable third line winger calls up, gets the nod, and has a chance to put one between my pipes!
 

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Had the oldest Sutter Gary Played he would have been the best of the 7. Many people believe that.

The Sutters weren't all high on talent. Some could score goals, move the pucks. but the one thing each of those boys had was buckets of grit and determination. Not the size of the dog in the fight mentality.

That's why a few of them have done so well in the coaching ranks too. They understand the value and use of support players to their stars. They get the systems, why because those same systems prolonged their playing careers.


Set a record when four of the brothers played in the same game; Duane & Brent with the New York Islanders beat Rich and Ron's Philadelphia Flyers.

All the boys played Junior for the Lethbridge Broncos in the WHL.

Brent Sutter played for the New York Islanders and the Chicago Blackhawks in the NHL, 829 points (363 goals, 466 assists) in 1111 regular season games and 74 points (30 goals, 44 assists) in 144 playoff games. Two Stanley Cups Islanders in 1982 and 1983
Duane Sutter played for the New York Islanders and the Chicago Blackhawks in the NHL 342 points (139 goals, 203 assists) in 731 regular season games (1333 Penalty minutes) and 58 points (26 goals, 32 assists) in 161 playoff games. Two Stanley Cups Islanders in 1982 and 1983
Brian Sutter played for the St. Louis Blues in the NHL 636 points (303 goals, 333 assists) in 779 regular season games (1786 Penalty minutes) and 42 points (21 goals, 21 assists) in 65 playoff games.
Darryl Sutter played for the Chicago Blackhawks in the NHL 279 points (161 goals, 118 assists) in 406 regular season games and 43 points (24 goals, 19 assists) in 51 playoff games. 2 Stanley Cup Head Coach LA KINGS
Ron Sutter played for Philadelphia Flyers, St. Louis Blues, the Quebec Nordiques, New York Islanders, Boston Bruins, and San Jose Sharks in the NHL 533 points (205 goals, 328 assists) in 1093 regular season games (1352 Penalty minutes) and 40 points (8 goals, 32 assists) in 104 playoff games.
Rich Sutter played for the the Pittsburgh Penguins, Philadelphia Flyers, Vancouver Canucks, St. Louis Blues, Chicago Blackhawks, Toronto Maple Leafs and Tampa Bay Lightning in the NHL. 315 points (149 goals, 166 assists) in 874 regular season games (1411 Penalty minutes) and 18 points (13 goals, 5 assists) in 78 playoff games.
Thank you Badger. That's the point I was trying to make all along! I am admittedly, a little obsessed with statistics and trivia, and you've given me so much to mull over! Undoubtedly, I will be boring family & friends with Sutter trivia for the foreseeable future! I have long said that when it comes to assessment, evaluation, and research methodology, I prefer QUALITATIVE over QUANTITATIVE. As I assess the statistics of the Sutter family, as outlined above so thoroughly, I will stand by my statement that I am VERY excited to see the impact that Brandon Sutter will have on the Canucks this year. It seems like he might be as good a player as his dad was, but even if he's only ever as good as his Uncle Ronnie, he'll be a great TEAM PLAYER that grew up eating sleeping and breathing hockey.

AND HE'S CANADIAN!
 
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Here are some more numbers to ponder

3.3 million dollar cap hit and probably about a 25 point season

Just as an aside, why does this guy always look like he hasn't taken a dump in 4 months

 

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If we're talking about Sbisa, unfortunately that's the going rate. But I do believe he brings more to the table than just points- as long he consistently plays it rough.
And 4 months since JB's last dump- LMFAO!
 

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Since the Canucks are the only pro team in town do fans get burned out by Canucks mania? In Seattle, the Seahawks are so mentally in everyone's presence that it gets tiresome OFTEN. The 12th man thing is getting like a bit corny now.
I'm glad my favorite team is so far away the Anaheim Ducks, I get a chance to miss them so to speak.
 

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maybe we can get a 4th or 5th round pick for the Twins?
I,m glad Trev and JIm have cleaned house on the coke heads.....Kes ,Zack , Lou
 

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Thanks for the Great One's stats. Always amazing.

I was counting playoff goals (since they're even harder to come by).

My point was I believe the Sutters were more than plumbers. They're heart and soul players and great teams need that. Hope Brandon brings some of that for "your Vancouver Canucks".

However, the fact the Sutter brothers were also able to contribute 1500 NHL goals as a group is astounding and likely will never be replicated by any other brother combination.

(And to put that into context, you'd have to add together Wayne's 900 and Mario's 600 (roughly) regular season goals just to reach 1500). I believe scoring an NHL goal is one of the toughest accomplishments in sports - only about 6000 people in history have ever done it. So, 1500 goals among 6 brothers is nothing to sneer at - makes them more than plumbers in my book.

...and for the record, Benning's last "dump" was about 4 weeks ago*


* it was 6'4", body of a bear, heart of a ballerina, goes by Zack.

(And please ... No offence intended towards ballerinas. If only he was that tough )
As they say on @midnight: POINTS!!! This made me smile...
 
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