I'm so disgusted!!!

[Krustee]

So if a client dined and dashed on you three years ago, you'd see him again? Excluding obvious discrimination, private business has the right to refuse service. Running a business is hard work, shoplifters are a total pain in the ass and personally, i can see why the owners have a zero tolerance policy and it's not like dollarama has a monopoly on juice.

I hear ya VV, being ripped off is something that is very hard to forget about!

I wonder though, is there any difference between the customer & the seller?

I know you take a dim view of customers ripping off the seller but what about the seller stiffing the customer?
(excuse the pun)

I've had several SP's take my money for a session then disappear in the bathroom or another room only to come back & say they cannot continue the session.

On one occasion a man with a baseball bat showed up & told me to give him my wallet & leave (I kept my wallet but did leave)

Another time I had the SP take my 'donation' & say that she had to go upstairs & tell her friend to go out for a while so we would not be disturbed. (should have known that her meeting me in the lobby was not a good thing) then after 20 minutes I call & no answer nor was there an answer all the 10 other times I called.

Three other times the SP invited me in & we started the session only to discover part way through that she was on her period!!
I was asked to just leave & she would make it up to me - which never happened.
On one occasion I was asked to just do her anyway & she would put a towel under us??? (I of course declined)
On all occasions they kept the money.

One gal did an incall at my house & used my bathroom - spent 20 minutes in there smoking crack or something but I can assure you it was not "freshening up"!

Another gal called my phone & left a message but forgot to hang up the phone so I was able to hear the recorded conversation of her & her boyfriend after she left a her message on my voice mail, so I heard her tell him what a loser I am & that she really wanted to just tell me piss off or something like that.

These are all $250 - $400 per hour supposedly professional SP's I'm describing above.

Could you please tell me VV if you think that is proper professional behaviour for escorts?

How much money do I have to spend to NOT be ripped off & disrespected?

Is the general consensus that all clients are beneath the SP who provide services to them or is there a annual salary range that allows one to forego the unpleasantness of being used abused & disrespected by a professional escort?

They are not obligated to do business with him, and he was being disrespectful not to just leave as requested- they had to escalate to get him to leave.

xoxo
Nina

Nina, maybe you would care to answer the above question & provide some of your insight on what clients should or should not expect?

 

[virginjohn]

APPARENTLY PEOPLE WHO GO THROUGH TOUGH TIMES CAN'T CHANGE... or deserve a second chance!

No you are confused. People do deserve a second chance but from society/legal system not their victims.

 

[Cock Throppled]

I hear ya VV, being ripped off is something that is very hard to forget about!

I wonder though, is there any difference between the customer & the seller?

I know you take a dim view of customers ripping off the seller but what about the seller stiffing the customer?
(excuse the pun)

I've had several SP's take my money for a session then disappear in the bathroom or another room only to come back & say they cannot continue the session.

On one occasion a man with a baseball bat showed up & told me to give him my wallet & leave (I kept my wallet but did leave)

A few other times I had the SP take my 'donation' & say that she had to go upstairs & tell her friend to go out for a while so we would not be disturbed. (should have known that her meeting me in the lobby was not a good thing) then after 20 minutes I call & no answer nor was there an answer all the 10 other times I called.

Three other times the SP invited me in & we started the session only to discover part way through that she was on her period!!
I was asked to just leave & she would make it up to me - which never happened.
On one occasion I was asked to just do her anyway & she would put a towel under us??? (I of course declined)
On all occasions they kept the money.

One gal did an incall at my house & used my bathroom - spent 20 minutes in there smoking crack or something but I can assure you it was not "freshening up"!

Another gal called my phone & left a message but forgot to hang up the phone so I was able to hear the recorded conversation of her & her boyfriend after she left a her message on my voice mail, so I heard her tell him what a loser I am & that she really wanted to just tell me piss off or something like that.

These are all $250 - $400 per hour supposedly professional SP's I'm describing above.

Could you please tell me VV if you think that is proper professional behaviour for escorts?

How much money do I have to spend to NOT be ripped off & disrespected?

Is the general consensus that all clients are beneath the SP who provide services to them or is there a annual salary range that allows one to forego the unpleasantness of being used abused & disrespected by a professional escort?



Nina, maybe you would care to answer the above question & provide some of your insight on what clients should or should not expect?

Wow, you are one slow learner.

 

[Kong420]

i really hate to say it paige, but can you imagine what it must've been like for the store owners? I don't think any store owner is going to be super enthusiastic to service someone that has ripped them off before. Were they supposed to smile and take the guys money? What message does that send to the shoplifter? "I guess they're cool with me now.."
No, they chose to send this guy a message... Juice is not hard to come by these days, he could have gone anywhere.
No, he choses to come into the store in a suit, and a briefcase looking all distinguished like and refuses to leave if they don't sell him a juice.....the former shoplifter.
Gotta be a little degrading for the shop owner, but wait.... heres the cherry on the cake.

Shoplifter refuses to leave, and other shopper sees whats happening and decides to get involved not knowing, or caring that the guy is a former shoplifter, i mean after all people can change right? (please excuse the cheesy sarcasm)

Now the shop owner has to deal with a douche who is a former shoplifter, and some lady giving them a hard time for not selling the former shoplifter a juice. The lady even has the nerve to drop all her stuff on the floor and leave. What a day for the shop owner, and i can only imagine how the former shoplifter felt, giving the place he used to steal from such a hard time and all, and in front of other naive customers who are now also giving the workers a hard time. Had i been the shoplifter, i would have been laughing my ass off on the inside.

Not trying to knock you Paige, but i've also worked in retail and see this kind of stuff all the time. You really can't judge people just on their looks these days and it really does send the wrong message to the shoplifter

 

[ilovejenny]

I was very heated and didn't post the full story... I should have taken a breath before posting or perhaps not posted it HERE at all?

First off I don't agree with stealing and I don't know his past (for all I know he may bave been homeless and stole food?)... I mean, what can you really steal from a dollar store? However, I was standing right there TODAY when HE was attacked by half a dozen old bitties all yelling at him... I disagree with how the store handled themselves and was so disgusted with the way this kid was treated. He IS a person, he was NOT rude and I'm sure if he'd been quietly reminded of his ban, he would have left the store without an incident.

By reading the replies, I now see I was wrong to think the members here might share my view on treating people according to their actions of today. I guess I'm just an eternal optimist and like to see the good in people... and I HAVE given people 2nd & 3rd chances in the past. However I will admit I've never (knock on wood) been ripped off or wronged by a client (other girls yes, but never clients).

You are obviously a likable person, not one who is quick to judge, and empathetic to all. Whether the kid was right or wrong is besides the point in my opinion. If everyone were more like you, this world would be a better place.

 

[Krustee]

Wow, you are one slow learner.

Yeah - I guess I am!

But I always try to believe that people have some sort of integrity only to find out they just want to take my money & dump me.

It's a harsh world we live in!

 

[Simonnn]

So if a client dined and dashed on you three years ago, you'd see him again? Excluding obvious discrimination, private business has the right to refuse service. Running a business is hard work, shoplifters are a total pain in the ass and personally, i can see why the owners have a zero tolerance policy and it's not like dollarama has a monopoly on juice.

I couldn't agree more. I'm all for forgiveness but this guy is an ass.

 

[cortezz]

You are obviously a likable person, not one who is quick to judge, and empathetic to all. Whether the kid was right or wrong is besides the point in my opinion. If everyone were more like you, this world would be a better place.

I disagree. I think she is full of herself and she should mind her goddamn business. For someone who just happened upon this incident she sure seems to know a hell of alot about this guy's shoplifting history, not to mention his current status. A suit, tie and briefcase, how dare the shopkeepers defend their assets. And they said the marriage would never last.

 

[threepeat]

My $0.02 is that if the sales staff can remember him after three years, he either did something really crazy or really nasty. There's more to this story.

 

[Man Mountain]

Sounds like the ladies at the Dollarama need the "Hero from Housewares!"

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[icemanmp1]

paige will you be my friend..................................i need a second chance................................sigh...............................

 

[uncleg]

So much for Spermie's theory that clothes make the man. Hell with suit & tie and food/drink involved maybe it was Spermie.
There is an aspect to consider, namely how will this guy react to this incident ? If this guy decides that if he can't get a second chance/forgiveness whatever for something as minor as shoplifting does he just say, to hell with trying to be straight and moves up to bigger and better things ? Maybe given a chance he'll make a go of it. I've seen it go both ways, so I'm not judging this one way or the other.

 

[Krustee]

So much for Spermie's theory that clothes make the man. Hell with suit & tie and food/drink involved maybe it was Spermie.
There is an aspect to consider, namely how will this guy react to this incident ? If this guy decides that if he can't get a second chance/forgiveness whatever for something as minor as shoplifting does he just say, to hell with trying to be straight and moves up to bigger and better things ? Maybe given a chance he'll make a go of it. I've seen it go both ways, so I'm not judging this one way or the other.

uncleg, I think it is totally dependent upon the person.

Some people are forgiving & generous - unfortunately most are not.

As the old saying goes - "Quick to judge slow to forgive"

 

[MasterRPC]

what I am finding funny about this whole disscusion is very few people ae finding fault with the wat the staff handeled the situation.
Yes the staff has the right to refuse service They even have the right to charge the person with assult due to tresspass an offence the may carry a jail time of up to two years.
The issue that is at hand and I happen to agree with Paige is how the staff handeled the man in question. from all accounts the staff was in the wrong for verbally attacking the client. Yes ask them to leave and not return If the choose not to leave let them know they do have a choice. to leave on their own account or to be charged with the above offence. In fact for several year I informed clients of the options while working graveyard shift at a 7-11. amazing on how many wanted to talk to the police.
Now if I had wittenessed what page is reporting I would have dropped My product and walked out as well.

 

[Unpossible]

"If you make me go, I'm taking the juice with me"

So he steals from them, comes back to the store and when they tell him to leave he refuses and threatens to steal from them again.

I can see why you're sticking up for him. He's a total class act.

 

[M1A]

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2254316,CST-NWS-shoplift10.article
Shoplifter dies from worker's chokehold
LITTLE VILLAGE | Family blasts decision not to charge employee

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May 10, 2010
BY KIM JANSSEN AND TINA SFONDELES Staff Reporters
Anthony Kyser didn't have money for the tubes of toothpaste he stuffed in his jacket before he walked out of a Little Village CVS store Saturday morning.

He paid with his life, instead.

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A CVS store employee who witnesses said strangled Anthony Kyser (inset) after he shoplifted tubes of toothpaste won't be charged, authorities said Sunday.
(Keith Hale/Sun-Times)



Chased out of the store and down a litter-strewn alley shortly before 11 a.m., the 35-year-old unemployed barber was strangled to death by a CVS employee who had seen him shoplifting, officials said.

Witnesses said Kyser, of the 1400 block of South Hamlin, cried, "I can't breathe, I can't breathe!" as the CVS worker held him in a chokehold for what they thought was several minutes. Three other men attempted to restrain him in the alley behind the 2600 block of South Pulaski, the witnesses said.

The medical examiner ruled Kyser's death a homicide, saying an autopsy showed he had been strangled, but police said Sunday the employee who killed him won't be charged.

Police are treating the death as "accidental," Chicago Police spokesman Daniel O'Brien said.

That's a decision Kyser's outraged family can't understand.

"Why would you kill someone over toothpaste?" his ex-wife, Ann Balboa, said through tears Sunday.

"Why would you even chase them, and how is this not murder -- it doesn't make sense."

Kyser's family said that though he had served prison time for drug convictions and had a drug problem and "his ups and downs," nothing he had done came close to justifying his death.

They also said they want a full investigation into claims -- made by two witnesses to the Chicago Sun-Times -- that an off-duty Chicago cop was at the scene and had drawn her weapon on Kyser before he died.

Chicago Police say there is no reference to an off-duty officer in their report.

The witnesses, whose homes back onto the alley where Kyser died and who asked not to be identified, say the officer announced herself, pointed her weapon at a bleeding Kyser and told him to stop resisting the CVS employee and other men who were holding him down.

When he continued to struggle, she holstered her weapon, got in her car and made a phone call, the witnesses said.

Chicago Police spokesman John Mirabelli said Kyser was unconscious when officers arrived at the scene at 10:52 a.m. Police Lt. Maureen Biggane said the probe continues, adding that "we have no indication of CPD involvement." She said camera footage is being reviewed and urged witnesses to contact detectives.

Initially described as in "fair-to-serious" condition, Kyser was declared dead 45 minutes later at Mount Sinai Hospital, according to the medical examiner's office.

Staff at the store declined to comment Sunday, but CVS spokesman Michael DeAngelis said the company was investigating "the unfortunate incident involving a suspected shoplifter who fled our store."

The Independent Police Review Authority is not investigating, spokesman Curtis Tarver said.

There were 15 thefts in the 2600 block of South Pulaski in the first four months of 2010, statistics show. Witnesses said they have previously seen CVS employees tackle shoplifters.

Balboa says Kyser's family plans to sue. "He was a loving stepfather to my three sons," she said. "They've taken away my kids' pops, and you don't do that.

"They murdered him."

 

[cortezz]

what I am finding funny about this whole disscusion is very few people ae finding fault with the wat the staff handeled the situation.
Yes the staff has the right to refuse service They even have the right to charge the person with assult due to tresspass an offence the may carry a jail time of up to two years.
The issue that is at hand and I happen to agree with Paige is how the staff handeled the man in question. from all accounts the staff was in the wrong for verbally attacking the client. Yes ask them to leave and not return If the choose not to leave let them know they do have a choice. to leave on their own account or to be charged with the above offence. In fact for several year I informed clients of the options while working graveyard shift at a 7-11. amazing on how many wanted to talk to the police.
Now if I had wittenessed what page is reporting I would have dropped My product and walked out as well.

What do you mean by all accounts? How the hell do we know how the store staff handled the situation. We only have the version told to us by the disgusted one. The one who has issue with merchants who refuse service to someone who stole from them. The one who has no issue with someone stealing from a dollar store because how much could the item have cost. The one who sticks her nose in other people's business and than feigns hysteria and disgust on an escort review board. You know, the self-aggrandizing one.