I'm Giving Up Pooning

[BuZZeD_]

After 20 years of pooning off and on I'm giving it up after not one but two very, very disappointing nights this weekend. I just can't take all the drama, rip-offs, fakes and flakes in this hobby any more. I have only met a single SP in the last couple of years that was honest straight forward and professional and that I would want to spend my time and hard earned money on.

The rampant drug abuse and shady dealings have ruined the whole hobby any sense of honour or integrity is long gone. I just can't believe the attitude I've been running into lately. I personally have no problem with recreational drug usage, I do it myself, but it seems everyone is out of control these days with the drugs being the focus instead of an enhancement.

I might just as well masturbate because either way I'm just fucking myself and masturbating is whole lot cheaper.

I see young fellows posting here that they want to get into this hobby. My advice to you is to save yourself a whole shit load of headaches, money and maybe even your personal safety and don't even think about it. Watch porn and whack off it easier, safer and in most cases more satisfying. If you don't take this advice and you decide to take the plunge at least save your money until you can afford a high end escort who has great reviews here. Part of my problem is that I seldom have enough spare money to go high end so I took what I could get, wrong approach.

Anyway unless I get some serious apologies and redress from these total wastes of carbon I can't see myself continuing to toss good money after bad. I may still visit here to keep an eye on the scene but I will stay a spectator from now. I have learned a lot of hard lesons in this hobby and I will never say never but for the immediate future I'm out.

 

[cherise]

while it is true that these problems seem to be occurring with greater frequency,it seems to be predominantly younger girls, and sad to say, that work out of surrey. maybe if your budget doesn't allow you to spend time with the high end young ladies, try looking towards the older ones ! a)you are more likely to get a fair price or even a discount b)they haven't survived this long by ripping people off c)they can carry on a decent conversation d) the have learned to enjoy intimacy and most importantly e) they KNOW what men want and how to deliver easily and gracefully.
just saying

 

[the old maxx50]

It taken you 20 yrs to find this out ..

I have only been seeing girls for 7 yrs , had noticed them for over 20 and i knew most of that was true with in the first few i saw ... It never stopped me i just looked form some one else .. .

Many of the younger girl and guys are in to drugs ,, in fact they all know each other from that culture ,it is just the reality in my city.. and the lower mainland .

There are many experiences that are per for the course .. One is you get what you pay for ,sometimes we pay to much for what we get ...We get our selves in to sugar daddy relationships , friends in need relationships .. and just plain trouble be cause we think with our dick just a little too often .. and other time we are lead by our heart .

Getting frustrated , i only blaming myself .. when i find it not satisfying any more .. But the things that you mention will all way be there weather you see SP's or just hook up with some one ...

Yes masturbating is the cheapest , the porn is free .. and you can do it any time you want .. but it does not satisfy and some time the real thing does not satisfy either when your wallet is empty and my heart too

 

[BuZZeD_]

while it is true that these problems seem to be occurring with greater frequency,it seems to be predominantly younger girls, and sad to say, that work out of surrey. maybe if your budget doesn't allow you to spend time with the high end young ladies, try looking towards the older ones ! a)you are more likely to get a fair price or even a discount b)they haven't survived this long by ripping people off c)they can carry on a decent conversation d) the have learned to enjoy intimacy and most importantly e) they KNOW what men want and how to deliver easily and gracefully.
just saying

Absolutely true!

My problem, not my only one but the one applicable here, is that I am not a young man anymore and I have no problem attracting women my own age but I don't find them attractive in a sexual way. I'm afraid I'm suffering from "porn creep" a syndrome in which people start to not be attracted to anyone who doesn't look or fuck like a porn star. I know this is my problem and not the ladies but that don't change the fact I only want to fuck young attractive women especially if I am paying for it. But you make several valuable points that others may well find useful.

Thanks Cherise.

Oh, BTW the rip-off artists are everywhere from Yaletown to Mission. I know, I'm sure I've seen every one of them by now. I don't think there is anyone left that hasn't taken advantage of my good nature.

These girls are very lucky it was me who they ripped off because a lesser man would have beat them silly but I will not pervert my honour so I let them keep the money anyway and even drove them home when needed. Now it could be argued that this just empowers them and gives them the idea that they can get away with it. Like I said I could have beaten them silly but I don't believe in violence particularly man on women and there is in my opinion no excuse to resort to violence. I could have sent a bunch of scary guys or gals over to talk to them but again that would just be stooping to their level. I still continue to treat people as I wish to be treated myself and put up with the bull shit in hopes of demonstrating that not everyone is a jerk and they don't have to be either. Sadly though that doesn't seem to working. I can only hope that karma with catch up to them in the end.

 

[Sonny]

Hardly any of the Asian SPs working out of apts for Maggie etc. do drugs, and, if any do anything mildly recreational, they are far from being druggies.
Same goes for the young Koreans, similarly working out of apts. They are here, without work visas, to make money for themselves and for the boss.
Now, the girls who work for Maggie, etc. may not be at your visual standard, but the young Koreans are pretty hot.
Certainly the cost factor is very favourable for these gals.

If you're stuck on very attractive young white meat (Perb escorts excluded), then you do run the higher risk of fucking drug users and encountering rip-offs.

 

[BuZZeD_]

Hardly any of the Asian SPs working out of apts for Maggie etc. do drugs, and, if any do anything mildly recreational, they are far from being druggies.
Same goes for the young Koreans, similarly working out of apts. They are here, without work visas, to make money for themselves and for the boss.
Now, the girls who work for Maggie, etc. may not be at your visual standard, but the young Koreans are pretty hot.
Certainly the cost factor is very favourable for these gals.

If you're stuck on very attractive white meat, then you do run the risk of fucking drug users and encountering rip-offs.

True enough, I have read lots about the oriental micros and such. But I will not contribute to human trafficking which is what most of that is about and the service is questionable by most accounts.

And no risk if I don't bother anymore.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

These girls are very lucky it was me who they ripped off because a lesser man would have beat them silly but I will not pervert my honour so I let them keep the money anyway and even drove them home when needed. Now it could be argued that this just empowers them and gives them the idea that they can get away with it. Like I said I could have beaten them silly but I don't believe in violence particularly man on women and there is in my opinion no excuse to resort to violence. I could have sent a bunch of scary guys or gals over to talk to them but again that would just be stooping to their level. I still continue to treat people as I wish to be treated myself and put up with the bull shit in hopes of demonstrating that not everyone is a jerk and they don't have to be either. Sadly though that doesn't seem to working. I can only hope that karma with catch up to them in the end.

those must have been some disappointing sessions this weekend!

i think there most be an overabundance of forgiving males in this biz, because the rip-off artists don't seem to get beaten out of the industry, which is too bad. like you, i'm not a violent guy, but these girls are playing a dangerous game! i just had a regular date with a young civvy, and she told me she's been roughed up and raped TWICE for not putting out on the first date - so those kind of guys are out there

If you're stuck on very attractive young white meat (Perb escorts excluded), then you do run the higher risk of fucking drug users and encountering rip-offs.

sad, but true - what an unfortunate statement to have to agree with!

 

[BuZZeD_]

those must have been some disappointing sessions this weekend!

i think there most be an overabundance of forgiving males in this biz, because the rip-off artists don't seem to get beaten out of the industry, which is too bad. like you, i'm not a violent guy, but these girls are playing a dangerous game! i just had a regular date with a young civvy, and she told me she's been roughed up and raped TWICE for not putting out on the first date - so those kind of guys are out there



sad, but true - what an unfortunate statement to have to agree with!

You have no idea. Read my rants/reviews in the review section.

I know I am the author of my own fait. My pridaliction for young white meat is my downfall. But fuck it that won't happen again. Even a nice guy can only take so much and I have reached the end of my rope. My faith in the SP has been shaken to the core lately. So much crap and abuse who needs it?

I really don't wish harm to anyone but sometimes I think this world would be a much better place without them and I wouldn't shed a tear reading their obituaries. Harsh yes, undeserved no.

 

[JamieA]

After 20 years of pooning off and on I'm giving it up after not one but two very, very disappointing nights this weekend. I just can't take all the drama, rip-offs, fakes and flakes in this hobby any more. I have only met a single SP in the last couple of years that was honest straight forward and professional and that I would want to spend my time and hard earned money on.

The rampant drug abuse and shady dealings have ruined the whole hobby any sense of honour or integrity is long gone. I just can't believe the attitude I've been running into lately. I personally have no problem with recreational drug usage, I do it myself, but it seems everyone is out of control these days with the drugs being the focus instead of an enhancement.

Agreed about your comment on the rampant drug use. I'm amazed when SPs are open about what drugs they take (maybe not on the first encounter), whether it is coke, H, crack, meth, or all of the above. Incredible how some SPs can continue to look good while using hard drugs. Some SPs have mentioned that being an SP and hard drugs go hand in hand.

 

[stevieknickers]

After 20 years of pooning off and on I'm giving it up after not one but two very, very disappointing nights this weekend. I just can't take all the drama, rip-offs, fakes and flakes in this hobby any more. I have only met a single SP in the last couple of years that was honest straight forward and professional and that I would want to spend my time and hard earned money on.

The rampant drug abuse and shady dealings have ruined the whole hobby any sense of honour or integrity is long gone. I just can't believe the attitude I've been running into lately. I personally have no problem with recreational drug usage, I do it myself, but it seems everyone is out of control these days with the drugs being the focus instead of an enhancement.

I might just as well masturbate because either way I'm just fucking myself and masturbating is whole lot cheaper.

I see young fellows posting here that they want to get into this hobby. My advice to you is to save yourself a whole shit load of headaches, money and maybe even your personal safety and don't even think about it. Watch porn and whack off it easier, safer and in most cases more satisfying. If you don't take this advice and you decide to take the plunge at least save your money until you can afford a high end escort who has great reviews here. Part of my problem is that I seldom have enough spare money to go high end so I took what I could get, wrong approach.

Anyway unless I get some serious apologies and redress from these total wastes of carbon I can't see myself continuing to toss good money after bad. I may still visit here to keep an eye on the scene but I will stay a spectator from now. I have learned a lot of hard lesons in this hobby and I will never say never but for the immediate future I'm out.

It really is too bad that you feel this way, only one SP you felt was worth your time and money. Hopefully you move on from this horrible experience keeping in mind that karma is a bitch and I am sure these ladies will one day suffer as you have suffered.

 

[vancity_cowboy]

You've had a chance to post your reviews, vent and rant, but this is not a good place for you to continue to hang out if you can't get past your anger.

We pay to advertise here and attract clientelle, the men post reviews to help newbies learn about the industry, so you do all of us a disservice by discouraging younger guys from seeing SP's and by talking about violent acts of revenge against women.

doctors, lawyers and engineers have to keep their own industries clean using discipline committees and practice reveiws of members of their associations

since some women in this industry charge rates that are almost as high as the aforementioned professionals, maybe they should get involved in helping to clean out the rip-offs that are causing the negative reactions in the guys instead of telling the guys not to report on the fact that there are rip-offs out there... just sayin'

 

[violetblake]

since some women in this industry charge rates that are almost as high as the aforementioned professionals, maybe they should get involved in helping to clean out the rip-offs that are causing the negative reactions in the guys instead of telling the guys not to report on the fact that there are rip-offs out there... just sayin'

Um, and how do you propose we do that exactly? lol. There is nothing I would love more than to have the only SPs out there good, solid, and sane SPs. If for no other reason than I wouldn't have to constantly be defending myself saying "No, not all escorts are drug addicts or thieves" etc. It's really annoying because I'm rather sure that makes up a minority, maybe a sizeable minority, but a minority nonetheless.

But what can I do? It's you guys who go to these women. Speak with your wallet, continue to post about scams. Visit well-reviewed ladies only, there's less expensive ones out there too who are well-reviewed. If they know they can't get away with scams, they'll stop. But there's so many because they can get away with it. However, I agree with Ms Sarah that inciting violence is not the answer. Granted I don't know what these women did to the OP, but what these women need is serious help, not violence. Doensn't mean you need to be the one to help her, that'd be a bad idea, but she doesn't deserve violence either.

 

[Elmore]

You have no idea. Read my rants/reviews in the review section.

I know I am the author of my own fait. My pridaliction for young white meat is my downfall. But fuck it that won't happen again. Even a nice guy can only take so much and I have reached the end of my rope. My faith in the SP has been shaken to the core lately. So much crap and abuse who needs it?

I really don't wish harm to anyone but sometimes I think this world would be a much better place without them and I wouldn't shed a tear reading their obituaries. Harsh yes, undeserved no.

I must say, I don't feel so bad to hear of your pooning misfortunes after a comment like this. Your mechanic has likely jerked you around for a helluva lot more than the 150/hr you seem to want to spend on a quality experience with an escort. Does your mechanic deserve the fate you suggest these women deserve?

 

[Sonny]

I have read lots about the oriental micros and such. But I will not contribute to human trafficking which is what most of that is about and the service is questionable by most accounts.

I have been to all sorts of Asian micros, and none of them are involved in human trafficking. Not that there may one or more out there so involved, but I have not experienced any myself.
The girls are usually in their 30s, old by Asian standards, who come here on visitor visas to make some good money they could not make back home.

Sure, a portion of the take goes to the boss, who provides all their needs while working here. But these women choose to come here, choose to do sex work, and leave when their six months is up.
Some even return, such as Lucy at Maggie's, formerly known as Eva; and Betty is soon to be back (hurrah!).

As for the service, you can read mine or Tant's or several other pooners' accounts, and for the most part, the service is more than adequate. Gentlemanly consideration goes a long way to good YMMV.

Still, you are unhappy with your experiences, and that's a shame to have happened. If you find pooning doesn't work for you, surely you must quit it.... and just as surely your bank account will be much bigger!

 

[HappyHunter07]

Been pooning for 20 years, signed up on the board last month has 36 posts, starts a thread saying he's giving up... how will our community recover from this loss?

Award for best answer goes to the lovely (and well reviewed) Ms. Violet Blake

 

[PlayfulAlex]

After 20 years of pooning off and on I'm giving it up after not one but two very, very disappointing nights this weekend. I just can't take all the drama, rip-offs, fakes and flakes in this hobby any more. I have only met a single SP in the last couple of years that was honest straight forward and professional and that I would want to spend my time and hard earned money on...

From what I can tell, quitting pooning is your only option. You say you want to find beautiful amateur young ladies, who's donations are below average. And you want your experience to be safe, reliable, and vigorous, and her personality to be engaging, enchanting, and sexually sophisticated.

I read a serious disconnect here...so your options, in fact, seem to be very limited...

 

[storm rider]

True enough, I have read lots about the oriental micros and such. But I will not contribute to human trafficking which is what most of that is about and the service is questionable by most accounts.

And no risk if I don't bother anymore.

All I can say is that you are very miss-informed about the asian micros if you think they are rampant with
human trafficking.These gals are in it for the money and do it of their own free will for the vast majority
of them.If you believe the snake oil fearmongering crapulence about how the gals are slaves then you are truly a fool.In Hong Kong the 1-4-1's are the same thing as the micros here in Canada but the typical
rate is about 1/3rd of the micros here and the same goes for the freelancers who work places like the
old Lisboa Hotel.All of the gals that work in the micros have 2 cellphones...their personal one and the one provided to them by the mamasan and they usually have access to an internet connected laptop.

I personally did a favour for a local micro and took a gal to do a bank run to deposit the money she earned.She had 2 cellphones and her passport and she was packing close to $10,000 in cash and she was dressed to the 9's and turning heads...yuppers you just know an asian sex slave is going to be allowed to
do that(note the heavy sarcasm)

To the OP sorry you have had some bad experiences with low track SW druggies but pull your head out of the sand and give the micros a try.....the service is usually way better and the gals dont do drugs and
the evil boogieman of human trafficking is BS.

SR

 

[BuZZeD_]

I am a fool and I know it. I think I've poven that here without a shadow of a doubt. But thanks for clearing up my misconceptions about micros.

 

[Tugela]

You have no idea. Read my rants/reviews in the review section.

I know I am the author of my own fait. My pridaliction for young white meat is my downfall. But fuck it that won't happen again. Even a nice guy can only take so much and I have reached the end of my rope. My faith in the SP has been shaken to the core lately. So much crap and abuse who needs it?

I really don't wish harm to anyone but sometimes I think this world would be a much better place without them and I wouldn't shed a tear reading their obituaries. Harsh yes, undeserved no.

If you are referring to them as "young white meat" I'm pretty sure you don't fall into the "nice guy" category.

Why so much anger that you want them dead? That is not healthy.

Probably best for them and for you that you get out.

 

[BuZZeD_]

I'm really sorry you were treated badly by some women.

I've read all your comments in all the reviews and threads you've posted recently, and you seem to be expressing a lot of violent thoughts towards SP's - which you assure us you would never act on.

You've had a chance to post your reviews, vent and rant, but this is not a good place for you to continue to hang out if you can't get past your anger.

We pay to advertise here and attract clientelle, the men post reviews to help newbies learn about the industry, so you do all of us a disservice by discouraging younger guys from seeing SP's and by talking about violent acts of revenge against women.

I sincerely hope things go better for you in the future.

Hmm.... all my reviews and threads, really? That seems a little exaggerated IMO. I wonder if others see it that way. If so I am profoundly sorry. And yes I am angry right now I think anyone would be?

You seem to think I am threatening or something when if you knew me you would know that I personally am not threat to anything except injustice and the status quo. This relates to life in general as I am one of the people trying to make the world a better place for everyone particularly the marginalized.

Ms. Sarah, you are certainly are entitled to your opinion but what you have done with your reply post is give a false impression. I believe I have only echoed what I have seen in many posts and that is that behaviour of that kind can expect to be met with violence at some point and does nothing to improve the reputation of the hobby. That does not mean I condone it but only that I know that can and likely will happen. It is meant as a wake-up call to them not a threat I wish they would or could get the help they need to turn around. But alas some people are just evil and there is no use for them.

As a senior member here your opinion is respected so I'm sure any SP that reads that will avoid me like the plague. Fair enough I guess if I can screw a ladies reputation here that makes me fair game too. I site Violet Blake who now seems to think I am advocating violence, not the case.

At first I was insulted but actually as I write this I have come to the conclusion that I should say thanks, I guess since by doing that it will help keep me out of the game which is what I need, I am prone to relapse so help is always appreciated.

I was going to just let it slide but I am not in that kind of mood so I expect this post will get me in trouble with you, Ms. Sarah and no doubt others, if not banned completely but so be it.

Playful Alex hit the nail on the head. I have far to high expectations that likely can never be fulfilled.

So, fair well and happy travels to all if you do not see anything else from me again.

Oh, for those who question why 20 years and only a member lately with few posts it is because I do this off oand on when between real relationships so I fogot my user name let alone password after a couple years and was more than a few hundred wasted this weekend. :doh: