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Iron Pooner

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My eledest brother: "My old lady doesn't want to circ my son can you fucking belive that shit!!!???

Me: Uhh... I've still got my foreskin.

Him: WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For the record I did not even know that my dad and my oldest brother are circed and I'm 30 years old. Doesn't see like much of a point in circing just to look like dad now does there.

And by the way I did a quick search and did you know that the Canadian and American Academy of pediatricians do not reccomend circ? Hell neither one of them even mentions th freskins sexual fuction and they still don't reccomend it. I'll trust the advice of two of the most respected groups of doctors on the planet over anyone ellses thank you very much.
 

godzilla

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Circ and not circum

Some circed and some not circed in a family? I've heard about that in families, where the men were born in different countries. Different countries, different doctors, different customs.

All those nerve endings, hang on to them while you can. :(
 

Kev

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The only reason Doctors in North America circe (as you call it) is money. There are religous reasons of course but with the exceptions of that is almost no reason to get circumcised. Europeans gave it up years ago. Check out the link below. --- Kev

Check out my thread.
 

SPinVic

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Cut or Uncut I love them all. It has never really made a difference to me until I was faced with the decision to circumcise my son. His father was cut, but somehow that was not reason enough to do it. I did my research and decided against it. I could not find a solid reason to hurt my son in that way. Why put him through that and why mess with the way he was born. I also felt if he really wanted to do it when he was grown, he can always do it then and then at least it would be done in a more humane way.
 

Iron Pooner

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Roughly 3 out of every 10 boys in my home province (Saskatchewan) are cut. That is the highest rate of cirumscion in Canada. And Sask. doctors were just issued an absoluetelly brutual anti circ memo. Even in the States it's drop to 60/40. With the majority of babies not being cut in California,Washinton, and Oregon.

http://www.courtchallenge.com/
http://www.courtchallenge.com/letters/skcoll2.html

I know women prefer cut, but I've only had one gf my entire life. She was a buddhist, originally from India, and vehemently anti circumsion, she loved my foreskin to death and I loved her for that. To me their is nothing sexier than an Indian woman, the way her dark hair hits pillow, I find everything about them incredibbly sexual. The fact that women prefer cut really doesn't bother me since I don't have a sex life outside of pooning. And seriously if a woman refuses you over a flap of skin tell her ass to hit the road.

Here's an exceptionally moving story that appeared in the globe and mail:

"It's only a piece of skin. It shouldn't upset me so much. Anyway, there's nothing I can do about it now. Besides, the experts said it was the best choice; in 1986 when my twin sons were born, the operation was de rigueur.
Back then, circumcision was performed on 85% of North American boys. I got the whole spiel from the medical folk. I have no religious requirements respecting the procedure, so circumcision was unnecessary in my case -- but not according to the hospital staff. If I didn't have my sons circumcised, I was told, they'll be plagued with infections. They'll get cancer of the penis. They'll give their wives vaginal disorders. What's more, since their dad is circumcised, they'll be confused by the difference, and suffer psychological problems. The nurses assured me it was painless, and over in a flash. The message was: do your duty, mom, and get those little boys snipped!


I wish I could claim total ignorance. But even then there was discussion about circumcision being unnecessary and painful (although it wasn't a very loud discussion). Men -- perhaps since they'd forgotten what it felt like to have it done -- didn't speak out against it, and women seemed more concerned with "women's" issues. But even though there wasn't enough objection to make me halt the procedure, I was suspicious about the claim it didn't hurt. How could it not hurt, to have a piece of skin lopped from your genitals?

Not trusting my own judgment, I agreed to it. Shortly after the operation, however, I was in the hospital nursery, and happened to see the plastic frame used for the procedure. It was a small device (for babies are small) with a moulded form for the boy to be tied to, so he could be held down easily during the circumcision. I pictured my babies in that device, and instantly recognized what I'd done. Too late. Had I seen that thing earlier -- had the hospital shown me what they were really doing -- I never would have let them near my children.

Nevertheless, I put the matter aside. It was easy to forget what had been done. The boys healed up, of course, and the first sentence they spoke was not "I remember the day I was tied up and mutilated," but more along the lines of "Lookit car mama." But recently, I've done some reading on the subject, and the whole question of circumcision came back to me. I wouldn't do it to my thirteen-year-old sons, how could I do it to my babies?

There is evidence that circumcision is a devastating event that can have intense psychological repercussions. The foreskin is a complex and sensitive tissue, not just an appendix-like, superfluous tag of skin. It has functions.

I had no idea, for instance, that the head of the penis is normally a mucous membrane that is permanently changed by the removal of the protective sheath. What remains is arguably scarred tissue.

If you're a woman, imagine having your lips removed, or -- as is done in some cultures, to the dismay of many -- your genital lips, your labia. Imagine the sensitive and moist areas of your body, which normally are shielded, having their shielding taken away. Yet because no baby says, "Hey, don't do that," and no man circumcised in infancy knows what it's like to have a foreskin, the procedure continues.

Yet this procedure does damage. Why do we imagine that babies don't suffer and don't remember. How dare we take such a risk with their feelings, and their potential, as to do them such an injury? Looking back, my own weakness in the face of the status quo astounds me. But what astounds me more is that 13 years later, this is still going on. We are still letting this happen to
our boy babies.

Years ago, when we women suffered ignominy and unnecessary procedures in childbirth -- shaving, enemas, being tied down while in labour -- we banded together and said no. We changed things. We should be changing this, too. We women in particular should be advocating for our boys. These are our children, and later they become partners and lovers and friends. A man or a boy with the power to declare his choice would not agree to be tied up and submit to an unnecessary operation, without so much as an analgesic, with its attendant psychological, sexual and even physical repercussions. Surely we cannot believe our speechless babies have fewer rights.

We are the agents of our children's choice. I wish I had remembered that, when -- as I held my new little boys in my arms -- I was approached by the doctor who asked me, "When do you want them circumcised?"

The answer, of course, should have been: never"

I myself find it hard to be loudly anti-circ since members of my family are on both sides of the fence. I'm sorry if I offended anyone.
 

LonelyGhost

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me too ...

and further ... if you can't love a guy because he's not cut, you just took shallow to a new unmeasurable level of shallowness ...

and when its erect the foreskin is typically not evident anyway ...

so ladies, if you are looking at a lot of limp dicks, you got bigger problems than whether or not they have been cut ...
 

Massagegirl

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I've a friend with a pinky like that, it's from having the tip cut off in an accident. But ya, what if fingernails had a higher rate of infection, would we cut them off?

I would never advocate circ on a child but if you grow up and its messy, then is the time to do it IF it's necessary.

And girls prolly prefer circ cuz they taste better, hifisex.
 

Iron Pooner

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I wonder Alexis did the uncut men who stank did their armpits reek as well? All you have to do is roll back and risnse with soap or water it's easier to keep clean than your finger nails.

If you ever find that rare woman whose so shallow and stacked with emotional baggae that she refuse to love you over a flap of skin: RUN LIKE THE FUCKING WIND!!! Save your self the time and heart break, a cut man would not have a better go at her than you.

As far as asthetics go I've heard this is the main reason why American midwestern mothers are having thier sons cut. I say has the whole world gone fucking crazy? Where talking about cutting a normal, healthy, and functional piece of your sons genitals off not a fucking hair cut. I mean do you walk around with your pecker hanging out of your fly? It's definetly what your used to anyway I mean thier's still a stigma in the States, I remember seeing Will Smith's uncut wang during the water tower scene in the Wild Wild West and being shocked.

I read an interview with John Leguizamo in Playboy where he pretty much summed up the way Latinos feel towards circumscion. This would probaly explain why the majority of young boys in Cali aren't being cut:

(On wether his son would be cut)
" That's fucking sick. I'm not, my dad's not, my brothers aren't, none of the young boys from where I am are. The first time I seen one it looked monstrous. I've heard that reduces feeling down there, I want my son to have as much feeling as possible."

This topic has come up all of three times in my entire life so I don't think it's as a big deal as everyone thinks. And I don't know about this no diffrence when erect thing, mine is always prevelant. Once agin if I offended anyone than I am truly sorry I've just been ia a bad mood lately.

Charelton Heston sums up my feeling towards gun control and my foreskin:

"From my cold, dead, hands!!!"
 

panties

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I hope noone is going around tasting or ogling the penises of infant boys. The issue here is infant cirsumcision. When boys become sexually active they can decide for themselves if they want to get cut.

I'm uncut, but if I get married and my wife strongly urges me to get cut i may just do it for her (unlikely though).

Circumsion during adulthood might hurt more because of voluntary or involuntary erections before the wound has completely healed. But I understand that there are injections or pills that are given to pedophiles to "chemically castrate" them. This is temporary and supposedly takes away all sexual urges while the chemicals are still in your blood stream.

I see zero reasons for infant circumsion -- not even religion.
 

Iron Pooner

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Actually my borother has a male friend who will not date native girls. I find women who won't date uncut to be every bit as stupid and shallow.

I know women talk but I'm not entirely sure how this topic would come up in real life but I tried it today and it went something like this:

me (to my friend of 15 years): Uh, are you circumcised?
him (laughing hysterically): Where did this come from?
me: I don't know.
him: Well, no I'm not. Why are you?
me: No.
him: Still got the old tooker.
me(laughing): Yeah, yeah still got the old tooker.

I felt like a fag for even bringing it.
 

Hedonist7

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I guess the big difference between having a "German Helmet" or an "Ant Eater" is the ladder also gives you a great place to keep your chewing gum...


(Just want to hear Alexandria go "Awww Jeees" one more time...) ;)
 

Massagegirl

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Iron Pooner said:

I know women talk but I'm not entirely sure how this topic would come up in real life but I tried it today and it went something like this:

me (to my friend of 15 years): Uh, are you circumcised?
him (laughing hysterically): Where did this come from?
me: I don't know.
him: Well, no I'm not. Why are you?
me: No.
him: Still got the old tooker.
me(laughing): Yeah, yeah still got the old tooker.

I felt like a fag for even bringing it up.
ROTFLMAO, that's too funny! I can't believe you asked that, what were you thinking?? LOL, poor old tookers of the world!!!! Still laughing, and wiping tears from my eyes! Thanks IP!

I agree with whoever said it is better to wait til adulthood, then fix it IF it needs fixin!

Vancouverman, I meant tastes better cuz it's covered all the time and CAN get smegma, but ya it never occured to me that might not be the norm. How should I know? It's not like I go around askin my buds like Iron Pooner does! Jk, IP.
 
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