I hope Bonnie knows what she's doing - 16 week interval between doses????

[wetnose]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nemer-henry-vaccine-interval-experiment-1.5932714
There's NO DATA on the efficacy of a 16 week interval between doses and Bonnie wants to do it? I'm no doctor but it doesn't sit right with me.

 

[Lo-ki]

WTF......really.....
16 weeks between doze
Stupidest thing I have ever heard so far

 

[Robert Upndown]

This is an opinion. Please do not mistake it as fact, without doing your own research

There are two distinctly different opinions on whether it is best to immunize as many people as possible, or keep to the current 2nd dose schedule.

A single dose has proven to effectively prevent the transmission of Covid. It is my belief she is attempting to vaccinate, with a single dose, as many people as possible, in as short a time as possible. She is attempting to prevent the spread of Covid, thus creating a Herd Immunity Scenario. The second dose can actually be given at the 16 week interval, without having to repeat the first dose. It is a bold move, but in my opinion, it is the right move for the general population as a whole.

No matter where you stand, the second dose is recommended, and required, no matter the time frame.

Bob

 

[Trekover]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/ar...e-3-month-dosage-interval-might-be-preferable
There is evidence for a 13 week interval is more effective for the AZ vaccine. Given that we will also likely start having supply for the J&J one shot vaccine as well soon then the 16 week time lag may well wind up shorter as supply assumptions change. Dr. Henry has been better than most during Covid so I am willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Cock Throppled]

Consideriing Canada has ordered something like 3 - 5 times the number of vaccines for our population, and we now have 3 different companies ( and soon a fourth) approved, why are they so worried about supplies? What aren't we being told, if there is so much concern over supplies?

Within a month, we should be knee-deep in as many vaccines anybody cold want.

 

[sybian]

I think it’s a provincial move to immunize a tax paying ,more than patient population ....to deal with a Federal fumble.
The companies producing the product, took a risk analysis of countries that are more likely to sue them for lack of contracted product....and chose Canada as the least likely risk of legal action.

 

[wetnose]

Of course the second dose is mandatory without a doubt, but after 16 weeks? Nobody else is doing it, as far as I know.

 

[CanineCowboy]

I think it’s a provincial move to immunize a tax paying ,more than patient population ....to deal with a Federal fumble.
The companies producing the product, took a risk analysis of countries that are more likely to sue them for lack of contracted product....and chose Canada as the least likely risk of legal action.

I guess you didn't watch the press conference yesterday, listen to the analysis or follow the findings out of Scotland and Israel ... without a doubt prioritizing single doses will lower mortality in the population (Dr Bogoch on CBC).

Qonservative conspiracies aside, why do you think Ontario wants to follow BC's lead?

 

[Robert Upndown]

Consideriing Canada has ordered something like 3 - 5 times the number of vaccines for our population, and we now have 3 different companies ( and soon a fourth) approved, why are they so worried about supplies? What aren't we being told, if there is so much concern over supplies?

Within a month, we should be knee-deep in as many vaccines anybody cold want.

This again is an opinion. do not mistake it for fact without doing your own research, which I see some of have not bothered to do.

I think you miss the point. it is not a supply issue that Bonnie is addressing, it is a distribution issue. She is not doing this to stretch supplies, it is being done to get as many people immunized in as short a period as possible, to try to cut down on the transmission of the disease, as well as the severity should you be exposed . If they were to follow the initial guidelines, then only half the people would get the first shot, transmissions would increase and more people would die. Why some of you do not see that is beyond me.

Bob

 

[sybian]

I guess you didn't watch the press conference yesterday, listen to the analysis or follow the findings out of Scotland and Israel ... without a doubt prioritizing single doses will lower mortality in the population (Dr Bogoch on CBC).

Qonservative conspiracies aside, why do you think Ontario wants to follow BC's lead?

I think b.c. is forced into following Ontario’s lead......because they have no choice.
Im also not saying single doses are a bad thing, I’m saying we are almost dead last in receiving doses that have contract commitments.
The US is in the many millions that have been vaccinated....we have been short changed, and somewhat ignored because we are less likely to cause a commotion.

 

[Robert Upndown]

I think b.c. is forced into following Ontario’s lead......because they have no choice.
Im also not saying single doses are a bad thing, I’m saying we are almost dead last in receiving doses that have contract commitments.
The US is in the many millions that have been vaccinated....we have been short changed, and somewhat ignored because we are less likely to cause a commotion.

The US has their own manufacturing plants, to create the vaccine, with more coming. Canada has to depend on manufacturing plants outside of Canada. And BC is not following Ontario's lead, it is the other way around. Ontario couldn't lead a balloon popping contest with an AK-47.

JMH0

Bob

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

Shows how badly they fucked up with vaccine acquisitions in this country, this is 3rd world status. Fauci himself warned a bigger gap between first and second doses could give the Virus an opportunity to mutate. He recommends the second dose be provided within the vaccines optimal time frame. Looks like Canada is between a Rock and a Hard place due to beaurocratic bungling of Vaccine acquisitions, hooray for us eh!

 

[CanineCowboy]

Shows how badly they fucked up with vaccine acquisitions in this country, this is 3rd world status. Fauci himself warned a bigger gap between first and second doses could give the Virus an opportunity to mutate. He recommends the second dose be provided within the vaccines optimal time frame. Looks like Canada is between a Rock and a Hard place due to beaurocratic bungling of Vaccine acquisitions, hooray for us eh!

And what did Fauci also say? Hint, Bonnie Henry clarified his whole statement today in her news conference.

You guys are like Trumpists who can't get over your election loss, our vaccine procurement is working and we are going to be ahead of schedule. And as our knowledge (based on real world data) improves, we are adjusting our strategy. Or are you denying the scientific data from Scotland and Israel?

 

[Mrmotorscooter]

And what did Fauci also say? Hint, Bonnie Henry clarified his whole statement today in her news conference.

You guys are like Trumpists who can't get over your election loss, our vaccine procurement is working and we are going to be ahead of schedule. And as our knowledge (based on real world data) improves, we are adjusting our strategy. Or are you denying the scientific data from Scotland and Israel?

Don’t know what you are on about, they all recommend 6 weeks as the maximum between doses, here they are talking 4 months. That’s a monumental failure that you can hang on Trudeau’s regime along with all his other fuckups, they are incompetent because of the dolts they have running things.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-coronavirus-variant-mutation-2nd-vaccine-dose-covid-2021-1

 

[Mr Quim]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/nemer-henry-vaccine-interval-experiment-1.5932714
There's NO DATA on the efficacy of a 16 week interval between doses and Bonnie wants to do it? I'm no doctor but it doesn't sit right with me.

As You confirmed, "You're No Doctor !" . Armchair Quarterbacking the Vaccine roll-out won't accomplish much of anything . Let's leave that rational to the People who have spent their Careers in this Field !

Dr Henry is relying on the Science, as it unfolds around the World .

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccines-second-dose-delay-complicated
Her let's get the 1st Shot it into as many susceptible Human's arms as possible approach , is the right scenario IMHO !
And I'm not talking about opportunistic 30 something Sex Workers, playing the System . But, rather the older Age groups who have been Dying, or ending up on Respirators in the ICU .

You might want to consider a Handle change ? ? I think "Henny Penny" is still available . LOL ?

Mr Q.

P.S. Bonnie was ahead of the Curve ! ?

https://www.canada.ca/en/public-hea...ines-early-rollout-population-protection.html

 

[CanineCowboy]

Don’t know what you are on about, they all recommend 6 weeks as the maximum between doses, here they are talking 4 months. That’s a monumental failure that you can hang on Trudeau’s regime along with all his other fuckups, they are incompetent because of the dolts they have running things.
https://www.businessinsider.com/fauci-coronavirus-variant-mutation-2nd-vaccine-dose-covid-2021-1

'Fauci did not recommend the delaying of doses in the U.S. because he felt they had sufficient vaccine “which is fine,” Henry said. The United Kingdom is also delaying the second dose, and Fauci went on to say “each of those approaches is correct and is right,” she said.'

The National Advisory Committee on Immunization has reviewed the data in detail and its statement is “imminent,” she said. “That is why I am so confident that the decision we made over this past weekend to extend that interval is the best one, based on all of the scientific and the data that we have to maximize the benefit to everybody in our community, so that we can both stop people from getting seriously ill, prevent people from needing hospitalization, and prevent people from dying.”

 

[Robert Upndown]

The fact of the matter is nobody knows. Fauci is guessing, as is Bonnie, but the science does seem to be a favouring Bonnie's approach. Please note, all of the Covid-19 vaccines have been given emergency use authorization for distribution. None of them have gone through the rigorous testing other vaccines have been through in the past. this is unprecedented. And the Idiot Federal Science Officer saying Bonnie's approach is akin to a "population level experiment". All of this has been, and is, a "population level experiment."

Vaccine development is a long, complex process, often lasting 10-15 years and involving a combination of public and private involvement.

JMHO
Bob

 

[lenny]

"A behind-the-scenes look at why Canada delayed 2nd doses of COVID-19 vaccines

Experts say efficacy of 1st COVID-19 vaccine dose is a 'game changer,'...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-covid-19-vaccine-delay-risk-1.5939134

 

[Lo-ki]

"A behind-the-scenes look at why Canada delayed 2nd doses of COVID-19 vaccines

Experts say efficacy of 1st COVID-19 vaccine dose is a 'game changer,'...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/canada-covid-19-vaccine-delay-risk-1.5939134

Are those the same experts that said we didn’t need masks and glory holes was the best way to have sex,,,???

 

[lenny]

Are those the same experts that said we didn’t need masks and glory holes was the best way to have sex,,,???

Are they? You tell me.

Who's stupid enough to think that anyone is perfectly right in everything 100% of the time. Yourself included.

"Yes, this is the process intelligent people follow.

When there is new information, or the understanding of a situation evolves, intelligent people modify their opinions and advice. AKA change their minds.

Others who are threatened by their own fear and insecurity that they may be wrong, doggedly stick to their original position and find excuses to justify
their inability to learn from new information.

Unfortunately ignorant, loud and irrational people can not understand or interpret these facts properly because they are blinded by their own selfish wants/gains or guided by their political agenda."