i got my first dui and need some advice
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Add me to that list too. I don't want some drunk beside me on the road, or worse, coming at me. GHOw many years have we been preaching not to drink and drive? Yet there are so many out there who just don't get it. Advice…
DON'T FUCKIN DRINK AND DRIVE.
I sell insurance. Once you get a DUI - the general insurance industry will not take you on as an new insured so you are sent to what is called Facility. This is where high risk, major convictions (like DUI) are handled. Your rates depend on your territory (where you live) and then you are assed 100% surcharge for liability and collision coverage for DUI charges.
G.A.
G.A.
Until the law prohibits any alcohol whatsoever in one's system, enjoy some wine and bring a breathalyzer to ensure the laws are adhered to.
It's another option (but not necessarily the only one) to heed the all-or-nothing/zero alcohol moral lecturing from black and white perbites while they flaunt society's repressive attitudes towards sex.
It's another option (but not necessarily the only one) to heed the all-or-nothing/zero alcohol moral lecturing from black and white perbites while they flaunt society's repressive attitudes towards sex.
Yeah, kinda sucks hearing it from a reliable source but there it is. Why people take their safety and more importantly the saftey of others, along with all the risks,including financial, that you incur, IDK why people still do it.
do you guys need ladders to get on your high horse?
give the guy a break. i'm sure he feels rotten enough about what happened as it is.
i'm no fan of impaired driving. but the impaired driving laws in BC tread dangerously close to violating our charter of rights and freedoms. yeah, they've been ammended somewhat, but they do walk a bit of a line.
in 2010 an RCMP officer even went on record saying that officers had essentially become judge, jury, and executioner.
BC has its heart in the right place when it comes to cracking down on impaired driving, but to punish an individual without opportunity to confront his or her accuser isn't something our country was founded on.
every day our rights as canadian get chipped away a little. ammended or not, the DUI laws in their present form walk a bit of a line.
try and look past the stigma and see the bigger picture.
(feel free to jump down my throat now)
rampage, you got a PM
give the guy a break. i'm sure he feels rotten enough about what happened as it is.
i'm no fan of impaired driving. but the impaired driving laws in BC tread dangerously close to violating our charter of rights and freedoms. yeah, they've been ammended somewhat, but they do walk a bit of a line.
in 2010 an RCMP officer even went on record saying that officers had essentially become judge, jury, and executioner.
BC has its heart in the right place when it comes to cracking down on impaired driving, but to punish an individual without opportunity to confront his or her accuser isn't something our country was founded on.
every day our rights as canadian get chipped away a little. ammended or not, the DUI laws in their present form walk a bit of a line.
try and look past the stigma and see the bigger picture.
(feel free to jump down my throat now)
rampage, you got a PM
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Not to jump down your throat BUT, the bigger picture is that they are trying to SAVE your LIFE. They are trying to SAVE OTHER lives. THAT is the bigger picture my friend. My family were police officers so I have heard enough stories of drunk driving deaths.
edit: and that probably makes me more conscience than most.
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Not to jump down your throat BUT, the bigger picture is that they are trying to SAVE your LIFE. They are trying to SAVE OTHER lives. THAT is the bigger picture my friend. My family were police officers so I have heard enough stories of drunk driving deaths.
edit: and that probably makes me more conscience than most.
i agree with mr blonde. the old 0.08 limit and the laws associated with it worked just fine, it was the court system and many of the judges that refused to take the law seriously in court - so people walked for committing heinous crimes drunk behind the wheel
now they've come up with laws that the policemen mentioned by vbc are loath to enforce for the very reasons mentioned by mr blonde
it's a basic rule of society that you don't pass a law that you don't have the capacity to reasonably enforce. this means, in the context being discussed, enough prison cells into which to throw drunk drivers. imposing huge costs to 'punish' drunk drivers is what walks the charter of rights line. either make the fines very large and have the balls to enforce them in court or get out of the game
excellent point. most people don't know much past the 30 day impound, and 90 day suspension. you are given 7 DAYS to mount a defence to confront your accuser. after that your IRP stands
you are subjected to a breathalyzer that is a very sensitive, precise instrument that bumps around the back of a police cruiser and is administered by an individual who has little to no training on how to properly administer a breath sample.
decline a roadside screening? you're charged criminally. request a breathalyzer test at the station, or by blood sample by a doctor at a hospital? you're charged criminally.
i'm not saying i condone impaired driving. i really don't. i've seen car wrecks, i've read the "statistics"
i'm repeating myself a bit, but the laws the way they stand today walk that dangerous line of having a canadians civil rights chipped away under the guise of saving lives.
"drunk driving kills. take section 10 and 11 from my chartered rights. i just want to feel safe!"
it's a law people are willing to rally behind because of the stigma it represents. call me an asshole, i get it saving lives is important (thanks to the vanessa for the visual aids. i've never seen a car accident before) but, and i'm trying really hard not to preach here, a canadian's rights and freedoms his/her's civil liberties are just as important as saving lives.
k. enuff from me. i said all i wanted to say. i will bid you degenerates good evening, i have a date with redtube.
The old system did not work fine. It's not the courts and judges...it's the defence lawyers that have created ridiculous precedent. ...case law...fuelled by lucrative and rich impaired clients bankrolls...making criminal convictions harder to come by than homicide cases.
What Charter violation? Persons found driving over 0.05 ( 0.06 now) lose their driving privilege....this is not a right...this is a privilege.
And look at how many lives have been saved....http://www.cbc.ca/m/touch/canada/british-columbia/story/1.1352443
I'm totally with Vanessa on this one. The reason the Criminal system didn't work....is precisely because of the ridiculous rights afforded to what should be criminals under the criminal justice system.
All the people..and their families...innocent. ..and alive today because of the legislation...the funny thing is...any one of us...could have been one of the lives spared. ..we will never know.
excellent point. most people don't know much past the 30 day impound, and 90 day suspension. you are given 7 DAYS to mount a defence to confront your accuser. after that your IRP stands
you are subjected to a breathalyzer that is a very sensitive, precise instrument that bumps around the back of a police cruiser and is administered by an individual who has little to no training on how to properly administer a breath sample.
decline a roadside screening? you're charged criminally. request a breathalyzer test at the station, or by blood sample by a doctor at a hospital? you're charged criminally.
i'm not saying i condone impaired driving. i really don't. i've seen car wrecks, i've read the "statistics"
i'm repeating myself a bit, but the laws the way they stand today walk that dangerous line of having a canadians civil rights chipped away under the guise of saving lives.
"drunk driving kills. take section 10 and 11 from my chartered rights. i just want to feel safe!"
it's a law people are willing to rally behind because of the stigma it represents. call me an asshole, i get it saving lives is important (thanks to the vanessa for the visual aids. i've never seen a car accident before) but, and i'm trying really hard not to preach here, a canadian's rights and freedoms his/her's civil liberties are just as important as saving lives.
k. enuff from me. i said all i wanted to say. i will bid you degenerates good evening, i have a date with redtube.
my point exactly... and who listened to the defence lawyers? and accepted the rich mans' bribes? judges, that's who!
you got bad judges - you fix THAT system, you don't change the laws to make it possible for the courts to be circumvented and an offender to suffer $5-10K in charges and costs for 'courses' and devices and maintenance of devices that you have now
read some history and find out what happens when people don't get a day in court. as said by others, drunk drivers are an easy target because their crime is so heinous, but it's a slippery slope - when the same principle starts to get applied to other infractions against society, pretty soon some fascist leader says, 'you know what? these danged courts are a real pain in the ass because they don't send my opponents to jail, and they cost a bundle as well... so i'm just going to do away with them and from now on we'll have Star Chambers to try the criminals'
just take a look at our neighbours to the south and how they still haven't released all the prisoners from guantanamo bay... people who never saw one day inside a courtroom... but lots of days being 'interrogated'
Lawyer up,look at spending around $5-10 grand. Hope I'm not on the road next time you're out having "4" beers.
now that makes makes me feel kind of jealous.
Hey I just smoked 4 joints - I'm still cool to drive oCifer...
edit: swish
Going 4 miles an hour down the road and sitting at the stop sign for 10 minutes,fill your boots Lol!
