I am sad to be an American.

greenvalley

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luckydog71 said:
The American government, hires an American company, to fix American property, with American money and you have a problem with that.

MYOFB
If you knew anything about Halliburton you would know this isn't just any American company. Love this knee jerk reaction, must have hit nerve"myofb" I never said there was some question about this being done by a non American company. I wasn't even the one that originally brought up this companies name. Go read something about cheneys favorite company who you are defending, after all it reflects upon you. They have over charged the US tax payer even on gasoline used by the troupes in Iraq. That’s why it pays to have a pal like Cheney. They are robbing you, but if you don't mind that’s ok.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2950154.stm

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=6028

http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=31

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/
 
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eljudo

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greenvalley said:
If you knew anything about Halliburton you would know this isn't just any American company. Love this knee jerk reaction, must have hit nerve"myofb" I never said there was some question about this being done by a non American company. I wasn't even the one that originally brought up this companies name. Go read something about cheneys favorite company who you are defending, after all it reflects upon you. They have over charged the US tax payer even on gasoline used by the troupes in Iraq. That’s why it pays to have a pal like Cheney. They are robbing you, but if you don't mind that’s ok.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2950154.stm

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=6028

http://www.publicintegrity.org/wow/bio.aspx?act=pro&ddlC=31

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

but i thought that its all about freedom!!!
 

metoo113

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Thanks Bull

"I wasn't suggesting that, by the way. It' s clear he was quoting from something, but didn't provide the source for whatever reason. The article is worth reading in its entirety so I posted the link."

Sorry, I should have provided the link to the quote. I certainly wasn't trying to imply that I wrote the article. Thanks again Bull for putting up the link.
 

wildonion

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"They're feeding the people a line of bull, and they are spinning and people are dying," as Nagin said.


Sunset said:
Luckdog,

Well, well we see you're still up to your rightwing ways of misleading people. Local government has responsibilities for small scale emergency preparedness but disasters have always been the responsibility of the Federal government.

It seems obvious that Paris knows more about how the American government works than you. :rolleyes:


Here's the truth:

FEMA prepares the nation for all hazards and manages federal response and recovery efforts following any national incident. FEMA also initiates mitigation activities, trains first responders, works with state and local emergency managers, and manages the National Flood Insurance Program and the U.S. Fire Administration. FEMA became part of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security on March 1, 2003.

www.fema.gov
 

Cock Throppled

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HankQuinlan said:
No --- I am saying that the oil companies are "opportunistic degenerates" who are profiteering from the disaster. And yes, I know you were referring to black citizens of N.O. And yes, I consider both disaster profiteers like Mobil and war profiteers like Haliburton to be lower than any murdering rapist you can find.
I think the truly stunning thing isn't that Haliburton got the contract, but they got it faster than the time it took the Bush administration to react to the damage. Was any other company even considered? As for opportunists taking advantage of the situation - if you think the looters took advantage, just wait to see how corporate America cashes in. For every $ million they donate they'll cash in on the rebuilding double or triple.
 

Herb_The_Perb

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Cock Throppled said:
As for opportunists taking advantage of the situation - if you think the looters took advantage, just wait to see how corporate America cashes in. For every $ million they donate they'll cash in on the rebuilding double or triple.
You're absolutely right, but are being far too conservative here. For every dollar of political contributions, the payoff is in the range of at least 100 to 1, and often more than 1,000 to 1.
This regime can be bought very cheaply.
 

ace85

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dirtydan said:
The comparison of the havoc created by Katrina and the horrors of 9/11 is most valid. For the former government officials at the civic, state, and federal levels KNEW without any question of the worst scenario that could happen to New Orleans ands other parts of the state and elsewhere. For the latter no one knew that the terrorist attacks that occurred were going to happen. Yet for 9/11 the response of emergency organizations was far superior. One would think that for something known to be coming, with the severity only in question, that despite the widespread destruction the response would be at least equitable to that of 9/11, if not better.

And while you target the Canadian media, the current labour dispute at the CBC will provide you with a grand opportunity to media coverage from the BBC. Compare to what they are covering to that of Canadian media is providing. And of course compare it to what the US media is providing.

The emergency response to 911 was heroic by poorly thought out. They set up triage below abuilding that was going to collapse. And firefighters and police impeeded the escape of victims by trying to climb stairs to the 80th floor inroder to put the fire out. In the first hours no one seemed to acknowledge that the buildings were going to come down.

It is only through fate that the mayor and other public officials weren't killed when the first buidlings came down.

If the pupose of the emergency response teams is to protect other from getting hurt, and saving people, I am not sure if the response to the planes hitting the buildings was any better than what we are seeing now. Heroic yes, well thought out no.
 
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