How to respond ????? (looking for feedback)

[cruiser]

So...last week, I thought I would do some cruising and went and checked out a few mp's.

One mp that I stopped in at....I almost thought of staying. I met the ladies on duty and decided to go into a room with one of them to negotiate. We agreed on a particular service (and pricing), and she turned on the shower for me. She asked me to put out the donation and shower. At this moment, I got cold feet.....I didn't feel like going through with it and told her that I had changed my mind and was going to leave. (I did have the necessary funds for the transaction, so lack of money was not a factor)

She became quite upset and demanded that I give her $20 as now she would have to spend time to clean the room/shower and no one else could use it until she cleaned it. I did give her the $20 for her trouble and then walked down the hallway to leave.

On my way out, down the hallway, this sp clearly said to me "please don't ever come back here". I was quite surprised as this comment and did not say anything in response and just kept walking out the door and down the stairs to the parking lot.

So....should I contact the owner/manager and report this girl? It wasn't my intention to get her po'd, but I changed my mind. I did give her the $20 she asked for and said nothing else, so there was no reason for her to say the "don't ever come back here" comment to me.

I was actually surprised at the attitude of this girl, because the mp in question has been around for quite a while and is one of the better mp's in town.

What would you do?

Cruiser

 

[Josie-1]

Response? I guess you could start by apologizing for wasting her time. The event is probably on the minor side in the scale of WOT, but you did come to an agreement to stay. She claimed a penalty for this & you settled it. I can understand that she may choose not to see you again. That's entirely her call.

I'd take her "do not come back" with a large grain of salt & just see other ladies at the establishment on an appointment basis or shifts when she is not on for the next little while. If an issue arises during that process, that is the time when I would talk to management.

I Agree! Just see other ladies when you go back,Dont take it to heart!!

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

Don't negotiate rates...
It will never lead to a good time, the girl might end up resenting it but agree because she is in need of cash. Then you end up with a bad session. Some times a girl over charges and when I say "no thanks Industry standard is x for that" she might agree when I turn to leave, I just leave. Negotiating rates means either the girl is over charging and trying to rip off new guys or the guy is a douche bag penny pincher wanting to take advantage of someone whose rent is due.
Also you don't owe her 20 bucks for her turning on a shower... What did the water make the shower dirty and now it needs to be cleaned? That's stupid.
You did come off as someone who might try and steal a session when you decided to call the session off when asked to put the money on the table, if the session is bad were you planing not to pay? So paying upfront is not a big deal, if a girls horrible, post a review.
Also post the girls name and MP or don't post at all, these "I had a problem with X at X" posts are silly.

Out the door and down the stairs/one of the better MPs that has been around for a few years makes it sound like Legends.

 

[GPguy]

do nothing...pretend it did not happen....

 

[FloridaGuy]

It was too late in the negotiating process to back out. A deal is a deal - used to be a time when a gentleman would keep his word. The new norm is for customers to be able to buy something then return it if they change their mind or aren't happy with it, and salespeople don't care so long as they get their hourly wage. But this lady isn't selling towels at Zellers or coffee makers at The Bay - she's selling her own body. The degree of emotional investment in the transaction will be significantly higher than a retail clerk. You got her all wound up about making some money then reneged on your deal. I am sure you were a hot topic of conversation in the ladies' lounge, and that your name is shit in that place. If the receptionist or another girl you go to see recognizes you, no doubt you'll be asked to leave.

 

[cruiser]

Also post the girls name and MP or don't post at all, these "I had a problem with X at X" posts are silly.

Out the door and down the stairs/one of the better MPs that has been around for a few years makes it sound like Legends.

The MP in question was Cloud Nine Massage.

The SP in question was "TILA"

The "service" in question was a body shampoo.

Nothing fancy....she turned on the shower in the Body Shampoo room and then my gut said "no"...and I said to her that I changed my mind and decided to leave. I did have the money but changed my mind.

I rarely go to Cloud 9 (probably been 5+ years since my last visit to that particular MP), so I was surprised at her comments.

Can other SP's tell me if it's normal to ask for money in these types of situations? I felt that it was a "demand/threat" to pay her.....

I don't think I'll ever step foot in Cloud 9 for years to come.....

 

[cruiser]

I can partially understand her requesting the $20 because showers are always fully dried after each client (so the next one knows the room has been fully cleaned - no water spots, cold/wet pooled water on the floor etc.), but to tell you to never come back? What? Maybe if you took 30mins of her time beforehand chatting about the services/session, but otherwise I think a gent should be allowed to change his mind up until the session actually starts. Like Josie said - don't sweat it. You weren't in the wrong here...

The discussion in question took less then 2 minutes.....it was straight forward....I know what I wanted and I know the type of person that I'm looking for to share the experience with.

I changed my mind and decided to leave....so is it normal to say "Please don't ever come back here".....

I did give her the money she asked me for....I did feel a tinge of guilt...but felt that the comments were not warranted and lacked professionalism on her character.

 

[FloridaGuy]

Good fucking grief. She had already turned on the shower? The session had started then you backed out. It was too late. Quit whining FFS. It only cost you $20 and you're THAT upset about a comment some working girl you stiffed made? Act like a man.

 

[cruiser]

What exactly made you change your mind, cruiser?

Why do I need to provide a specific reason, Sperminator??

I decided not to go through with it and wanted to leave, so left the establishment.

 

[DQ Guy]

Well maybe contact the owner.. But I'm sure they won't really care...
and never go back.

Cloud 9 is loosing a lot of girls to other places, due to a wide range of factors.
There are plenty of other great places to stay, some right across the street.

I can't understand the 20$ payment... that really makes me wonder.?.
and the never come back comment?.. wow.

but until I can hear both sides of the story, and the truth.. I'll simply say Mehhh.

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

I don't think cloud nine has ever been one of the better MPs, its just an MP, you wont be missing anything special if you stay away from that place. I would have to search through my own old reviews to even be able to remember when I was there last and who I saw, its that unimportant.

 

[Harmony-bc]

I understand all sides of the story. I've worked in a few places, and it can be really disappointing to get a straight or a walk out after its started. I understand her frustration and I understand you changing your mind. I'm a woman, I know all about changing my mind, lol. In my opinion, the session started when she turned on the shower. In the amount of time it took her to clean the shower, she could lose out on a customer. I don't know Edmonton, but the parlors, I've worked at, you aren't allowed back on the floor until your room is clean. Remember that we are just human.

I think it was her frustration, that told you not to come back. Maybe she thought you were a lookie loo. Lookie loos are guys that never stay and probably never had any intention of staying.

 

[Sixpak]

In some MP places the management keeps track of sessions where the customer leaves early, maybe that is what prompted her to state that inappropriate comment. Maybe she had an early-leaver before, etc, or maybe she loses face with her co-workers and management. Maybe she is not allowed to be booked again until the time wasted for that session is over? Not sure what amount was arranged for, but should not matter as a deal was made, so the fee should be paid. How busy was it at that time? Many different factors come in play, but she is probably not much different than the many waitresses and others who do not have the proper etiquette of dealing with customers.

 

[GPguy]

After reading some post I got to say something...If he did not want to go thru with it he has EVERYRIGHT to stop just like she has everyright to stop too. Depending on where the session was at determines was the money exchange should be...$20 was fair

 

[athaire]

After reading some post I got to say something...If he did not want to go thru with it he has EVERYRIGHT to stop just like she has everyright to stop too. Depending on where the session was at determines was the money exchange should be...$20 was fair

Agreed......how many times have we heard someone say that they "should have walked" or someone giving the advice "If you don't feel comfy just leave"? Its ridiculous to say that he is on the hook for the session or responsible for more than the cancellation fee for changing his mind.
In my opinion he didn't get naked, she didn't get naked. The wiping of the shower is very minimal in terms of time. Since no one did anything other than talk the cleaning of the room is practically non existent. 20.00 for 5 min shower wipe is pretty good money.

I think if you intend on going back to the MP you should contact them and let them know that you were made to feel unwelcome. This issue had nothing to do with SP safety and more to do with hurt feelings on her part. If they wish to retain you as a client they will ensure that future visits are friendlier. If they don't....well you will know and not have to waste any further time worrying about it.

I also agree that negotiating with set house prices is not a good idea and will not foster the kind of atmosphere you may be looking for......

 

[Gr33kFreak]

After reading some post I got to say something...If he did not want to go thru with it he has EVERYRIGHT to stop just like she has everyright to stop too. Depending on where the session was at determines was the money exchange should be...$20 was fair

I completely agree with GP guy. A lot of you folks sound like complete hypocrites. At least that is my opinion.

GF

 

[ymmvguy]

Depending on the management she may have incurred fees. I do not know about C9 but once the session is logged she may be responsible for incidental costs or fines to management. Towel fee, room fee, etc.

I think 20$ was more than fair.

 

[drderek]

Well said GP Guy. I was in cruisers shoes recently, I should have walked when I had a bad feeling before the session but I decided to stay. I am going to write a review about it here shortly once I think of a good way to put things.

 

[cruiser]

Depending on the management she may have incurred fees. I do not know about C9 but once the session is logged she may be responsible for incidental costs or fines to management. Towel fee, room fee, etc.

I think 20$ was more than fair.

As stated, I was "ok" paying the $20 fee...

Two things:
1) When she asked for the $20, it was with the undertone of a threat/demand (as I mentioned before).

2) The comment about "please don't ever come back"....
- I don't know the economic situation in Cloud 9 (or the MP industry in general), but I doubt that any "regular" business would tell their customers to "please don't ever come back here" if they had a problem with a customer.

In the end, the customer is the one keeping the MP in business. If every SP told a client (that they didn't like) to "not to ever come back here", then there would be a lot fewer in MP's in Edmonton.

In the end, the good ones would survive.

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

Has anyone even recommended a girl from cloud nine in the past 4 years? Never mind even reviewed a girl from cloud nine?
If it was EBC or a legit studio you might have to worry but seriously, this is cloud nine for god sakes, this is the most anyone has talked about that place in 6 years and its not even anything complimentary.

Do yourself a favor and travel the 3 minutes down the road to EBC and whats her name at "cloud fine" (ooo word play) can keep her twenty bucks.