How seeing SP's actually helped me with women..

[br03]

Long time lurker first time poster here.

About 7 years ago when I was about 19, I was a real shy guy. The thought of being with women kind of scared me. I didnt have much experience with them.

My first experience with an SP happened by accident. I was really just looking for a massage, and walked into a massage parlour expecting just a massage. The place was Tokyo Health on Imperial, and I think her name was Lily. She was from Thailand, and had a nice body. She really teased me with her massage, and although I didnt do anything with her that day... it made me go back to have multiple sessions with her.

This kind of kick-started a brief addiction to seeing SP's. I think every week I was seeing a different SP, and I was having alot of fun. However at that age this hobby kind of became expensive... So I decided to stop seeing SP's at that moment.

I then realized how much my confidence/experience with women had grown. So I decided to test myself in the real world to get laid by normal chicks... The result, Success!
I had no problem talking to women as it felt more natural to me. Also in bed, I had learned so much from different SP's that I was able to now lead during sex. I was able to date/sleep with many girls due to my new found confidence/experience...

Now I very rarely see any SP's. The only time I see them is when a certain SP is very well reviewed, then I might try her out... I mainly read these forums for hilarious encounters.

I wanted to post this for someone who might be in the same position that I was in 7 years ago...

Cheers

 

[CorriGuy]

Yeah, in one of my could have, should have moments, I wished I'd visited a few SPs in my early 20s too. My life's been pretty good overall, though not the best in the companionship department. I lacked a lot of confidence in my teens and early 20s with women, even on the rare occasions where the woman's advances towards me were beyond obvious to everyone (except apparently to me). Still carries through to today somwhat. A few good SPs can apparently do wonders to boost your confidence when you're in your late teens / early 20s!

 

[br03]

Ms. Sarah - Thanks!

CorriGuy - Yeah absolutely!

 

[blazejowski]

I totally agree with what you said - all my SP experiences have greatly helped me with added confidence as well....

 

[the old maxx50]

When it came to women i had very little confidence .. it talking to them or about them .. because i had limited experiences with them ..

Actually confidences started to improve by spending lots of time in puds and becoming friendly with the waitress ,, That helped a lot but not enough . then i started going to a drop in for figure drawing .. which allowed me to get use to being around naked women .. on a respectful ,none sexual bases . Prior too that I only saw naked women in the mags, porn and movies .. or perhaps a strip bar once or twice .. Later I ventured in to the local strip clubs and made a friend with one of the dancers .. But that is all it was .. It was not until I saw escorts that i became much more confident with women .. all be it mainly women that work as escorts because they just happen to be more open minded then many women ..

Now i have to say it does not help me to be confident with women in other lines of work .. In fact i am not even interested in many women that i see out side of the escort business . I seem to be attracted top open minded , sexually liberated women that understand men from all aspects and are not afraid to tell a guy what they want.

If it come down to it i think I got spoiled .. Not just in the sexual aspect but also in the mystery of a women's thinking has been reveled .

 

[InTheBum]

opposite for me

had a gf before i knew about SPs, we didnt fuck, i got frustrated, started seeing SPs, 2 years later and im still seeing them.. progress with women normal girls actually became worst because i just tell myself "it doesnt matter if she wont put out, i can just find one online"

You act like this is a bad thing!ound:

 

[badbadboy]

Long time lurker first time poster here.

About 7 years ago when I was about 19, I was a real shy guy. The thought of being with women kind of scared me. I didnt have much experience with them.

My first experience with an SP happened by accident. I was really just looking for a massage, and walked into a massage parlour expecting just a massage. The place was Tokyo Health on Imperial, and I think her name was Lily. She was from Thailand, and had a nice body. She really teased me with her massage, and although I didnt do anything with her that day... it made me go back to have multiple sessions with her.

This kind of kick-started a brief addiction to seeing SP's. I think every week I was seeing a different SP, and I was having alot of fun. However at that age this hobby kind of became expensive... So I decided to stop seeing SP's at that moment.

I then realized how much my confidence/experience with women had grown. So I decided to test myself in the real world to get laid by normal chicks... The result, Success!
I had no problem talking to women as it felt more natural to me. Also in bed, I had learned so much from different SP's that I was able to now lead during sex. I was able to date/sleep with many girls due to my new found confidence/experience...

Now I very rarely see any SP's. The only time I see them is when a certain SP is very well reviewed, then I might try her out... I mainly read these forums for hilarious encounters.

I wanted to post this for someone who might be in the same position that I was in 7 years ago...

Cheers

Great post and congrats on your newly found confidence!

One thing I have noticed is that some women seem to pick up something when I have recently had sex. I don't know if its a silly grin still on my face, certainly not a sex smell because I am a pretty clean guy before hand and afterwards too. Its like they pick up on your confidence and smile or even come up and start talking with me. I had just come from a really sweet two hour appt and was in a line up in Starbucks and out of the blue this attractive woman in her early 30's came over and started a conversation. I guess I presented a happy, chill demeanour and she felt I was safe to approach and have a conversation with in a coffee shop.

 

[br03]

tobleroney - It sounds to me that you want to have sex with normal girls but you are in this cycle of seeing SP's. You'll be surprised how many girls out there are horny and want boyfriends.

What you said: "it doesnt matter if she wont put out, i can just find one online", is kind of like saying: "I dont need to travel to London, I can just look at pictures..". The experience is completely different.
For me I get a sense of a accomplishment if im able to date/sleep with a girl and have fun with her. With an SP it feels more like a business transaction no matter how authentic it feels.

Its all about confidence man. How you extract that confidence is different for everyone. The first one is always the hardest... then it would get easier and easier.

 

[Pillowtalk]

its a bad thing if your only resource for sex is escorts, which it is for me

You will continue to fail if the only thing you want from the women you meet is sex.

 

[br03]

Some escorts even made it worst by telling me normal girls dont give blowjobs/need sex/want a boyfriend etc. Completely changed my view of girls.

You cant generalize all girls like that. Everybody is different, and believe me that some normal girls want sex/need a bf.

I wouldnt let escorts change your view of women. I would listen to what they say but it wouldnt my influence my judgement unless they have a strong argument and good points.
You also have to think that its in the SP's best interest to say something like that.

 

[jesuschrist]

Never had a problem finding girls to date, but here's where my problem is that having SP's helped a lot.

You never know what you're getting in bed when you date a girl - I find it takes a few weeks of dating to figure out how she really is in bed - you know, you have to fuck her a good 10 times at least to see how far she will go with things - like, does she swallow, does she actually like anal (as opposed to putting up with it), does she really like to blow you without expectation of anything in return, how much she likes sex, etc. And all this after you figure out if she's got a good personality, if she's pretty enough, and after you finally see what her body looks like (ie: is she shaved, does she have an ugly pussy, does she have a big stomach, stretch marks, etc).

With SP's you can try them out and know all that stuff. You can also get to know her. After trying many, you get to find out what typically women like in men in terms of bodies, attitudes, and sexual technique. You get to sample all kinds of women of all ages and all kinks to find out what you really like, without any expectations from her! Since you get to know so much about her with no strings attached, if you get lucky, you might even get to date her as a real girlfriend. It's worked for me many times.

 

[Elmore]

On one hand, it's good to get to know someone as a friend and find out if they have lots of qualities that you like, before having sex with them. The problem with this approach is that you can get emotionally attached to someone who isn't sexually compatible. What do you do when you think you're in love, then find out the sex is horrible? You have to choose between breaking up and both of you getting hurt, or putting up with a less-than-satisfactory sex life.

For people like jc, for whom sex and sexual compatibility are obviously high priorities, hiring SP's until you find one who really rocks your world, and seeing her often enough to find out if there's potential for something more, can be a great way to meet someone if you're both on the same page about relationships.

I made the mistake of not having sex, not even oral, with my last husband until our wedding night - then I found out he didn't really like sex and I got shit every time I asked for it from then on. I was not a happy camper and that issue was one of the main reasons the marriage ended.

What dude doesn't like sex? I bet he doesn't like football either. You should have just pooned on the side!

 

[Larry Storch]

I know! I thought he was just being shy or didn't want to lose self control. He did drop a couple clues that I missed along the way while we were getting to know each other. Something about being in the shower with other guys while in the military ... or he might have still had a thing for his ex wife.

I did hire a male escort once during a long stretch of celibacy but it was too expensive to do on a regular basis.

Wow sorry that you missed the clues, but that does happen in the early 'throes' of a relationship. Had my own experience with that, but fortunately (sorta) it wasn't in the sexual department.

I'd REALLY like to see a review of your experience. It would be interesting to hear a woman's perspective of what it was like on the 'receiving' end.

 

[chuckanut]

didn't pop my cherry with an sp, but i probably should have. girl i was with was more nervous than me and it didn't make for a very fulfilling first encounter. of course it got better. but my first time with an sp (late bloomer = 2006), it blew my mind. never knew i could cum so fast. lol.

i've have a few gfs since 2006, and i like making love to them. but a few of them weren't into the raw "just fuck my brains" out sex. so, as the saying goes. if the gf/wife isn't doing it, a man will find someone that does. so i dabble in this hobby a few times a year and i'm satisfied. i mostly come on these boards b/c there's some hilarious ppl on here and they crack me up.

-chuck
**retired**

 

[blazejowski]

I did hire a escort once during a long stretch of celibacy but it was too expensive to do on a regular basis.

Welcome to my world... LOL...

 

[chuckanut]

Thanks my man!!!

hunka isn't one of them. zing!! i keed, i keed. lol.

-chuck
**retired**

 

[lenny]

its a bad thing if your only resource for sex is escorts, which it is for me

Just the opposite for me. My only resource for sex, apart from masturbating, is escorts. And that by choice.
Wouldn't have it any other way. And this is a good thing, very good.


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[Elmore]

She described him as being 'tall, good looking and muscular' and quoted me $200 for an hour of full service. I was a struggling single parent at the time, but was so horny I decided to use my grocery money to pay for the session.

Wow! A guy could get $200 for a one hour session 20 years ago??!!!?

I didn't think they could even get that now. It's not as easy as men may think though. A woman can be a dead lay and make a good living especially if she is hot. We hear reviews all the time about guys seeing hot women even though they are poorly reviewed for their services.

But guys need to perform. Whiskey dick would probably get a guy fired from an agency regardless of how good he was with his tongue.

 

[blazejowski]

If the guy was that much of a cokehead, I am surprised he was able to get it up....

 

[stevieknickers]

I think there is something that you guys are overlooking here. You know the feeling you get when you connect with an SP on a more intimate level and you know that those groans and moans are real and you are soley responsible for making this beautiful yet seasoned woman orgasm? Well you should feel great! You have succeeded in pleasing and satisfying probably the most difficult of women and if you take that skill and apply it to the "normal" women in your life then you will be mint baby!