How often do sp's get full STD tests

*emmanuelle

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I'll bet most SP's including independents never get tested for HIV...I'll bet many of the girls here who have said they got tested really didn't know.
Duhhhhh.....what's an HIV?? Never heard of it. Is it like, a disease or something??? LOL I'm just a hooker, what do I know about health and safety? You mean I should actually to the doctor's and request a monthly standing order for HIV and STD testing? That sounds confusing! :confused: :confused:


But seriously, please don't take ONE anecdotal experience (of a girl who sounds like she has an IQ of about 70) and extrapolate to rest of us.
 

WreckBeach

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I'll bet most SP's including independents never get tested for HIV. And even if they did, they might get tested once a year.

A number of SP's were shockingly unaware of the test. They assumed that just because the doctor gave them a PAP smear and took some of their blood, that they got an HIV test. WRONG.

There was a time when I took an SP to a clinic for her test. She had told me a month before that, that she had been tested before. During our trip to the clinic, I asked her if she had anything to eat yet today. She asked why... I answered because she might feel tired after they take all that blood out of you. She said, "a lot of blood, what??". I said, "they take 5 vials out of you for the HIV test". She looked at me dumbfounded, and said, "oh.". Later I questioned her about her previous test, and she said she lied, she had never had a test before... she just assumed it was done every few months when she saw the doctor for a PAP smear and he might have taken some blood too.

If you are going to get an HIV test, it's never done automatically unless you specifically ask for it, and I mean specifically. Unless you are a declared sex worker, a declared needle user, or a declared john, will they make the decision to prompt you to do a test without your bringing up the topic first. The test is expensive and requires lab time. No GP is going to give a girl a test every time she gets her PAP smear.

I'll bet many of the girls here who have said they got tested really didn't know.
I disagree. The way you generalize and lump them into the same category as your not-so-bright lady-friend is condescending and makes it seem like you consider virtually all SPs to be mere vaginas incapable of intelligent thought, as opposed to actual sentient beings.

It's their health that is at risk. I've met many ladies over the last few years who have taken every precaution to keep themselves healthy and free of disease. Including HIV tests, my friend. In all likelihood, you stumbled across one of the few misinformed people who just happened to be ignorant of certain matters pertaining to sexual health. Ignorance is by no means an uncommon ailment. We're all human, capable of mistakes.

Instead of being condescending, why don't you try being enlightening and informative next time?
 

lenny

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I'll bet most SP's including independents never get tested for HIV. And even if they did, they might get tested once a year.
I'm not sure if even Jesus would bet on that proposition. For the most part SP's are almost total strangers to their clients, and vica versa. We seldom know many things like:

1. Work history, e.g. did it involve street prostitution.
2. Alcohol and drug habits.
3. Relationship status, did/do they have a BF they were/are BBing?
4. Do they pickup guys or girls in clubs, bars, etc?
5. How often have they had bare sex due to condom breaking, slipping, etc?
6. STD history/status. Have HIV, HepC, etc?
7. STI testing practices.

Even if you see recent alleged STD lab results with the necessary confirmimg pieces of ID, i'd think these test papers are far easier to fabricate than a passport. Going with her to the clinic would be more reliable.

A useful site might be one that confirms the STI results of those involved in this business [SP's and johns] without revealing info like name, phone #, DOB. Doesn't something similar already exist re personal safety for Service Providers?

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"Life is a sexually transmitted disease and the mortality rate is one hundred percent."
RD Laing.
 

the old maxx50

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Std test actually give use a false sense of safety There are far more STI and SDT;s that we could come in contact today .. because of the globe economy and people basically fucking one day in this country and the next day fucking half way around the world in a country with less concern for healthy sexual practices

The 6 tests that we have available to use just scratch the service of the 40 possible infections .. The doctors would not even know what to look for here .. and a gain so many people can have a STD or STI with out any signs of it ...
 

Tugela

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Not to mention that any infectious disease that is transmitted by body fluids can be transmitted sexually as well. Some diseases are spread primary through sex (but potentially also through non sexual routes) but there are many others which spread through other more general mechanisms which can also be transmitted that way.

Bacteria and virus do not discriminate. As long as they make contact with some cell presenting the right surface molecules, they will infect not matter how they got there.
 

Trus'Me

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St. Pauls has the rapid HIV tests now. Results in under a minute, and it's free... I did it at the HIM Clinic* on Davie, which apparently is the only other clinic with the rapid tests, and the negative indication was clear in about 30 seconds.

And no more urethra swab!! :eek: Thank God! Or thank science, I guess. I hated that... What a terrible sensation! Had it several times over the years and it always ruined my day.

All you do now is pee in a cup... :thumb: :clap2:

No more excuses to not go.

http://www.aidsvancouver.org/get-informed/testing


*Anonymous testing geared toward gay men, but it's not a requirement that you're gay. They didnt ask me of my orientation, but I've been told I look kinda gay... I'm not, but they were the first clinic with the rapid test, and I loathed the two week wait for results any other way. They do the other tests there too if you want to be double sure.
 

lenny

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Most doctors will tell you that monthly testing is probably unnecessary, because the incubation period for HIV is longer than that (usually three months). Also, even if an SP becomes HIV-positive at some point during the three-month window, the chances of the SP spreading HIV to clients still remains quite low (assuming safer sex practices are followed) because of the very small viral load. The risk of seroconversion for sexual partners is related to the person's viral load, so if someone has only recently acquired HIV, they aren't as likely to transmit it to others.


A "very small viral load" & not as "likely to transmit {HIV} to others" in the first three months after becoming HIV positive?

"The phase of infection. HIV is much more contagious in the acute infection phase (first eight to 12 weeks after infection) as well as in the final phases when advanced disease (or Aids) has set in. The reason why HIV is easier transmitted during these phases, is because the viral load is especially high in the acute infection phase, and again in the final phase of Aids."

http://www.health.am/aids/more/transmission_through_sexual_acts/

"During this period (usually 2–4 weeks post-exposure) most individuals (80 to 90%) develop an influenza or mononucleosis-like illness called acute HIV infection, the most common symptoms of which may include fever, lymphadenopathy, pharyngitis, rash, myalgia, malaise, mouth and esophageal sores, and may also include, but less commonly, headache, nausea and vomiting, enlarged liver/spleen, weight loss, thrush, and neurological symptoms. Infected individuals may experience all, some, or none of these symptoms. The duration of symptoms varies, averaging 28 days and usually lasting at least a week.[27]

"Because of the nonspecific nature of these symptoms, they are often not recognized as signs of HIV infection. Even if patients go to their doctors or a hospital, they will often be misdiagnosed as having one of the more common infectious diseases with the same symptoms. As a consequence, these primary symptoms are not used to diagnose HIV infection, as they do not develop in all cases and because many are caused by other more common diseases. However, recognizing the syndrome can be important because the patient is much more infectious during this period.[28]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV

"The window period for a test is the amount of time from the initial infection event until the disease can be detected.[17] Exposure to HIV, followed by replication of the virus, may take as long as six months to reach a level detectable in many testing methods. An HIV antibody test usually detects the HIV antibodies within two to eight weeks, but can have a valid negative result for a long as 2 to 6 months after initial infection. Viral load tests can also be used to diagnose HIV infection, especially in children under 18 months born to mothers with HIV, where the presence of maternal antibodies prevents the use of antibody-based (ELISA) diagnostic tests.[18]

"On June 15th 2010, the FDA approved the first diagnostic test capable of detecting HIV antigens and HIV antibodies. Use of the Abbott ARCHITECT HIV Ag/Ab combo test can reduce the window period to 20 days.[19] This diagnostic test can be used during the acute phase, when the immune system is still developing antibodies and the virus is replicating unchecked. A person, who may be unaware of the infection, is highly infectious during this time yet may test negative for HIV using tests that detect anti-HIV antibodies only.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_load
 
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