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SexyBoy

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It is going way down now.

I should have pulled out in Oct and waited for this price.

Don't you just hate it when you have a really good hunch?
 

LadyMidnight

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I'm starting my portfolio, little nervous in the market right now, any advice would be great!
and i agree real state is the way too go right now..I hope to invest in a bar in the next five years.... :D
 

threepeat

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I'm starting my portfolio, little nervous in the market right now, any advice would be great!
and i agree real state is the way too go right now..I hope to invest in a bar in the next five years.... :D
Hi LadyMidnight, the best advice I can give you is to educate yourself. I can't stress this enough. Nearly all the financial advisers you will find in banks and investment firms are looking to sell you stuff, and their opinions will be biased as a result.

If you are a complete newbie to investing, I'd suggest starting with an introductory investing book, like Investing for Dummies: http://ca.wiley.com/WileyCDA/WileyTitle/productCd-0470833610.html
I've read it and it's quite decent. It covers the traditional methods of investing (invest early, invest often, dollar-cost average in, blah blah blah).

Once you are comfortable with traditional investing, depending on your risk tolerance and the amount of work you want to put into investing, the next step is to probably open a self-directing brokerage account and start choosing your own stocks/ETFs/mutual funds.

IMHO on the state of the market:
This is probably one of the worst times to enter the stock market if you are a newbie, as there is a lot of uncertainty out there right now. It will be very hard to make money in the stock market with traditional means, ie., a diversified portfolio of stocks. You should either have very limited exposure to stocks, and a heavy bond/GIC position, or you will want to choose specific stocks or sectors that can either weather this storm or hopefully prosper. But choosing the right stock/sector for you comes back to educating yourself, because only you know what your risk/reward tolerance is.
 

SexyBoy

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Only because I like you

I'm starting my portfolio, little nervous in the market right now, any advice would be great!
and i agree real state is the way too go right now..I hope to invest in a bar in the next five years.... :D
Real estate is going to drop by or before Aug. I would wait a year before I bought a house in Winnipeg. Now is a good time to sell.

There are over 9000 houses listed in Edmonton that are not moving. Just wait until construction goes into full swing. Alberta was pushing the market up in other cities. A lot of houses here are selling for 80k less then the listed price. One reason is Com Free is really popular here. The general public have all of their houses over priced on average. Vancouver is going to be taking a lot of trades people with the Olympics coming there soon. It would be a good idea to buy a house in late 2008 early 2009. If you can buy more then one.

That is your absolute best bet.


Buy low

Sell high

The right kind of stocks are going to be a good investment. I recommend investing in Toronto Dominon stock. The bank has been doing pretty good lately. The price just dropped and I doubt for long.

I was in a mad panic to buy any fund or stock today! Everything went up it was a good day to make 4-5% in one day.

I trade online and dabble in a little bit of everything.

GIC's are going down right now. However the US is going to need a lot of money especially with the war. That means in time the GIC rates are going to go up. The only problem with that is if the US dollar goes down. That one I still need to think about.

China is a major player buying everything. Follow what the goverment plans to build and see what natural reasources they are going to soak up. Copper was a good example of this.


I am putting most of my money into a new company I am starting. Investing hasn't been my main priority.


If I had more money I would start up a Jack in the Box in Winnipeg. I wouldn't hurt to start up a Mongos in Edmonton.

Even better open a Tim Hortons in the US. Not many of them are there.

Watch out for cold FX when they are allowed into the American market. Stocks are going to go up.


Oh ya best way to buy a house is invest into a RRSP first time owners can use that towards a new house. This way you also get a tax rebate from the goverment. You then have to pay 1/20 every year for 20 years. If not that 1/20 gets added to your income. It might be over 15 years I cannot remember.

The shorter the mortgage the better.

Ask someone at a bank for more info on this. TD would be my first choice.
 

SexyBoy

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How many of you bought stocks/funds yesterday?
 

LadyMidnight

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Thank you so much, and i will check out those sites....:D

google search for financialsense.com. lots of good contrarian opinions there. Ben Graham's "The intelligent Investor" is the bible, so is Philip Fisher's "Common Stocks and Uncommon Profits". Above all never buy anything on margin..

here are some quotes that may give one some ideas what a jungle out there in the financial markets (SPs are truly the honest folks!):

Back in the 1920s: "The beauty of doing business with a crook is that he always forgives you for catching him, so long as you don't stop doing business with him." (Reminiscences of a stock operator (1923))

The early 1970s, a stock exchange governor commenting on stolen securities, etc. "The Mafia couldn't possibly have stolen that much money, " he said. "Good people had to steal too. The temptation was too great." Supermoney (1972)

1997 Asian Contagion: Forex traders on the then Malaysian Prime Minister after the latter blaming the hedge funds and forex hot money for the meltdown in the Asian financial markets:

"Tell him we are selling his ringgit. Then we gonna screw his wife and his daughter. Then we gonna burn down his house and have a party afterwards."

So proceed with caution. Keep your eye on your cash flow and discretionary spending.

Very likely real estate has topped. Remember Tokyo in 1989? Things may not be that bad here or even in the US as the RE bubble was nowhere near the one in Japan of the 1980s. But there is a huge credit crunch coming, unwinding all the excesses in RE for the last 20 -30 years. No one lost any $ in real estate. Tell that to the folks in Detroit or Windsor. Or Calgary in the 1980s. Remember Nuwest, Daon???

Perhaps on more a global view, it pays to remember the with each dawning of a new century initial hopes would likely be dashed by cold reality of geopolitics. At the close of 19th century the land mass of the world was split among five major empires in the west : the Czarist Russia, the Austro-Hungary Empire, Kaiser Germany, Ottoman Empire and the British Empire, and in the far east, the Manchurian Qing and the Japanese Chrysanthemum Empire. Within two decades of the new century, five of seven empires had been banished to the history dustbin.

We may be seeing the same thing here.. Which could have some interesting implications for both the financial markets as well as for the commodities markets..One may no longer be able to ignore what is going on in Sudan anymore as it is more than just a country on the map of Africa.

..;) ;) ;)
 

LadyMidnight

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Awww I appreciate it, thanks!:D


Real estate is going to drop by or before Aug. I would wait a year before I bought a house in Winnipeg. Now is a good time to sell.

There are over 9000 houses listed in Edmonton that are not moving. Just wait until construction goes into full swing. Alberta was pushing the market up in other cities. A lot of houses here are selling for 80k less then the listed price. One reason is Com Free is really popular here. The general public have all of their houses over priced on average. Vancouver is going to be taking a lot of trades people with the Olympics coming there soon. It would be a good idea to buy a house in late 2008 early 2009. If you can buy more then one.

That is your absolute best bet.


Buy low

Sell high

The right kind of stocks are going to be a good investment. I recommend investing in Toronto Dominon stock. The bank has been doing pretty good lately. The price just dropped and I doubt for long.

I was in a mad panic to buy any fund or stock today! Everything went up it was a good day to make 4-5% in one day.

I trade online and dabble in a little bit of everything.

GIC's are going down right now. However the US is going to need a lot of money especially with the war. That means in time the GIC rates are going to go up. The only problem with that is if the US dollar goes down. That one I still need to think about.

China is a major player buying everything. Follow what the goverment plans to build and see what natural reasources they are going to soak up. Copper was a good example of this.


I am putting most of my money into a new company I am starting. Investing hasn't been my main priority.


If I had more money I would start up a Jack in the Box in Winnipeg. I wouldn't hurt to start up a Mongos in Edmonton.

Even better open a Tim Hortons in the US. Not many of them are there.

Watch out for cold FX when they are allowed into the American market. Stocks are going to go up.


Oh ya best way to buy a house is invest into a RRSP first time owners can use that towards a new house. This way you also get a tax rebate from the goverment. You then have to pay 1/20 every year for 20 years. If not that 1/20 gets added to your income. It might be over 15 years I cannot remember.

The shorter the mortgage the better.

Ask someone at a bank for more info on this. TD would be my first choice.
 

chilli

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Does anyone use those stock market programs that track what the market is doing... and it gives you a green light or red light depending on whether to buy or sell?

I seen it on a late night infomercial.

And like everything I see on infomercials, I am very dubious.
 

SexyBoy

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Does anyone use those stock market programs that track what the market is doing... and it gives you a green light or red light depending on whether to buy or sell?

I seen it on a late night infomercial.

And like everything I see on infomercials, I am very dubious.
It would be nice as there are way too many to follow.

I bet I could make up a spreadsheet that could do it. Now you gave me an idea!
 

threepeat

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Does anyone use those stock market programs that track what the market is doing... and it gives you a green light or red light depending on whether to buy or sell?

I seen it on a late night infomercial.

And like everything I see on infomercials, I am very dubious.
They're pretty common (Google "technical analysis software"), and are included with many online brokerage memberships. RBC Direct Investing comes to mind. They don't really tell you when to buy or sell, but whether the trend is bullish or bearish, though that's more or less the same thing I guess.

The problem is that sometimes the different indicators can contradict each other. Also, just because the trend is going one way or another, doesn't mean it will stay that way. Lastly, technical analysis is useful for the short trends, but in the medium to long term the direction of a stock is more dependent on market fundamentals, which is not really covered in technical analysis. Oh, one other thing: when the markets are as screwy as they've been lately, you would likely find that the indicators for many stocks will flip-flop between buy and sell signals daily if not even more frequently.

So at the end of the day, IMHO, they have some usefulness but you still have to make the call yourself.
 

InTheBum

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Does anyone use those stock market programs that track what the market is doing... and it gives you a green light or red light depending on whether to buy or sell?

I seen it on a late night infomercial.

And like everything I see on infomercials, I am very dubious.

Don't get sucked into that BS redlight/green light crap! This woman I use to know...a CA..very smart...supposedly...not too many dumb CA's got sucked into the red/green light shit and invited me to the seminar. I went, knowing 99% it was bullshit, but felt like being entertained. It was 3 hours of nonesense then afterwards, the salesman/recruiters surrounded everyone telling them how easy it was...I know when I'm being lied to, but apparently she doesn't and bought in for 4k USD plus $120 a month line feed. She gave it a shot and stopped using it several months later...
 

kafka555

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(snip)
Rule 1 Don't lose money

Rule 2 Don't forget Rule 1.

(snip)
First priority is to preserve the bulk of one's capital.

Second priority is to make sure any gains one makes are not wiped out by transaction costs.

Once those are taken care of, a person will come out ahead.

I also avoid investment seminars. If they were so shit-hot they would be making money investing, instead of making money fleecing potential investors.
 

chilli

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Don't get sucked into that BS redlight/green light crap! This woman I use to know...a CA..very smart...supposedly...not too many dumb CA's got sucked into the red/green light shit and invited me to the seminar. I went, knowing 99% it was bullshit, but felt like being entertained. It was 3 hours of nonesense then afterwards, the salesman/recruiters surrounded everyone telling them how easy it was...I know when I'm being lied to, but apparently she doesn't and bought in for 4k USD plus $120 a month line feed. She gave it a shot and stopped using it several months later...
Thanks for the heads up, kind of what I thought.
 

slacker

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I don't willingly invest in the stock market because I've felt for a long time it's an overinflated house of cards and I don't want to risk any of they money I have now on it. PE ratios are insane these days. If I have play money in the future I might be happy to make some speculative plays.

However I'm down about $50k over the last week or or two on stocks I have but didn't buy. But it's always going up and down. I am a bit worried this funk will keep it down even if the fundamentals behind the company are not affected by the downturn. The markets are retarded that way in that they are just as much emotional as logical.
 
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