Plenty, but this girl was apparently sold off and sent to a foreign country to make money for her owners. Obviously coercion is involved. How else would you explain the mamasan (who lives overseas) giving someone she had never met a "loan"? How exactly does that happen??? She was bought. Most people, when they lose all their money go bankrupt. This one got shipped off to another country to work in a massage parlor. Not the same thing.So.
How many pooners have dark secrets?
How many SPs have dark secrets?
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Give him a break there, al, after all being a gambler is much worse (to him) than being a sex slave working out of fear. Actually fear is a good motivator for these sps to provide a lot for a little, the low rates ensure they will see a lot of clients in a day, but nevertheless, if they aren't happy little worker drones they will suffer for it one way or the other.
But spare a little sympathy there for tantalizer, since his delusions of the happy little sex fiend submitting solely to fulfill his needs were dashed by the reality of coercian, fear and extortion. Thank god for the generosity of the client who asks for the added cost of greek and then tips a whopping 20 bucks for the session.
Either that or she's lying to get a better tip. My opinion is of the latter. Mentioning that you're a victim of sexual slavery to a client would get you killed by actual organized crime. But don't let that get in the way of villifying micros.
Oh I'm definitely not disagreeing with you. It was either that (my reverse question about pooners) or my opinion about this topic and just how disgusted with this thread I am. I figured it was probably best for everyone if I just went with the question about pooners. :nod:
It doesn't make me any less disgusted though.
Honestly, I've got no beef with with micros. I do find the OP's comments and attitude about the sp and this whole situation disturbing. If anyone ever needs an example of what the complete dehumanization of another human being looks like, I now know where to send them.
Sadly, my experience is that a far higher percentage are unwillingly involved than we would like to believe. Whether it's working off debt or funding addiction or supporting a "boyfriend", far too many are doing this because they feel trapped into it.
I may be wrong but I always have this impression that SPs who work in micros are the ones who have very little choice about what they're doing and are likely to be exploited.
I prefer the indies. They may be a bit more expensive, but that's the price I'm willing to pay to help me sleep better at night.
I prefer the indies. They may be a bit more expensive, but that's the price I'm willing to pay to help me sleep better at night.
Story wouldn't change, but the girl would be able to pay down her debts faster, and her kitty wouldn't be as sore? I had this one girl, who I kept hoping would raise her price.
Yeah I actually thought that too, if he stopped patronizing these micro's it would be a disservice to them.
The girls would still be doing what they're doing but they'd be having sessions with meh pooners like me
?When tant books, he breaks up the meh and makes it special for them. He tips, bring gifts, treats them nice and speaks to them in chinese. He's practically like santa minus the chinese thing and debauchery.
Thanks, Sonny, for this informative comment. Sure hope you're not dropping wads of cash at the casino yourself.
Enjoyed all the comments here—whether supportive, critical or humorous. And thanks, guys, for defending me against the charge of dehumanizing SPs. I think men have a right to a satisfying sex life, and commercial sex is really the only realistically accessible path for many of us, including myself. But in my approach to this hobby I consider myself to be a caring humanist who respects an SP's restrictions (but obviously prefers fewer restrictions with no upsell).
Regarding the micro girl I wrote about, it's my distinct impression (though it’s hard to be sure) that she was already an SP prior to her gambling losses. In any case, I don’t think she’s a victim of “sex trafficking,” provided this term is reasonably defined as involving some kind of kidnapping.
Anyone who has seen places in China where sexual services are typically delivered, at much lower prices, will probably agree that most micro girls are far better off in Canadia than back home. In fact, the mamasan in question told me she has lots more girls applying than she has spaces for.
I'd be sincerely curious about the true history of some of these girls, what pressures and choices brought them to this point in life. Really makes me wish my Mandarin were more fluent so I could get to the bottom of their story. As Sonny's comment suggests, there’s obviously a lot more going on for some of these girls than meets a pooner's eye.
But I’m squarely on the side of fellow pooners who think denying these girls our business isn’t a good way to help them. Quite apart from budgetary limits I face, I’d rather subsidize needy women from poor backgrounds than high-priced ladies with lots of other options.
About the lies micro girls often tell—I doubt that the girl in question lied to me about her gambling debts in hopes of extracting extra tips. It sounded to me like an authentic, spontaneously shared fact about her life.
I admire her spunkiness and resilience, in spite of the financial mess she's in. She seems like the epitome of the “happy hooker,” friendly, upbeat, super-sensuous in an adventurous way—but clearly not very smart in some of her choices. But I definitely plan to see her again, to explore some of my kinkier fantasies.
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Wait, if I have a dark secret does that make me an SP?None.......only SP's do. M*B, don't you know anything after all these years on this board?
I have taken some serious risks in life and in business, but I am not much of a casino gambler.
Gambling on people is sometimes a win and sometimes a lose situation.
Come to think of it, the odds there are not unlike that of a casino!
The only big casino gamblers I know personally are all Chinese, and all owe money to loan sharks.
Always believed in reciprocity when it comes to having fun. If you respect the secrets of your favorite courtesan then she'll truly respect your secrets as well.
wow tant... thank you for that - a pooner's 'charter of rights'... :nod: :thumb:
sorry tant but men/people/women don't have a RIGHT to anything.
ah yes but growing up in this particular society grants you certain rights, voting etc
but overall, in general, around the world: you got no rights!
you have to try to establish them.
and where they are established, you have to protect them.
nowhere have i seen this one though: men have a right to a satisfying sex life.
i mean that's just lol goofy.
ah yes but growing up in this particular society grants you certain rights, voting etc
but overall, in general, around the world: you got no rights!
you have to try to establish them.
and where they are established, you have to protect them.
nowhere have i seen this one though: men have a right to a satisfying sex life.
i mean that's just lol goofy.
I was going to say sociopathological, but I'm not sure if that's even a word. Goofy will do tho.
i have the same problem. if the world only knew how many boxes of See's chocolates I go through in a month...
Shhhhhh......
Hey JRod,
Always good to exchange views with you.
When I dashed off the phrase, "men have a right to a satisfying sex life," I guess I imagined sensible readers would interpret this to mean, "men have the right to pursue a satisfying sex life (by any ethical means at their disposal)."
I didn't mean to imply, of course, that we've a right to be handed a satisfying sex life on a silver platter, or that we've a right to procure sex from anyone but consenting adults.
My thinking was that if we have a right to the pursuit of happiness, and if a satisfying sex life is a big part of most men's happiness, then surely men have a right to the pursuit of a satisfying sex life.
But I totally agree with you, as with many rights, to cash in your right to pursuing a satisfying sex life, you've got to be intelligently assertive about it.
Goofy? If you mean a quirkily eccentric, I admit, that describes me.
I suspect it describes many pooners, including yourself.