How Facebook Outs Sex Workers

vanperb

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https://m.slashdot.org/story/332305

Leila has two identities, but Facebook is only supposed to know about one of them. Leila is a sex worker. She goes to great lengths to keep separate identities for ordinary life and for sex work, to avoid stigma, arrest, professional blowback, or clients who might be stalkers (or worse). Her "real identity" -- the public one, who lives in California, uses an academic email address, and posts about politics -- joined Facebook in 2011. Her sex-work identity is not on the social network at all; for it, she uses a different email address, a different phone number, and a different name. Yet earlier this year, looking at Facebook's "People You May Know" recommendations, Leila (a name I'm using in place of either of the names she uses) was shocked to see some of her regular sex-work clients. Despite the fact that she'd only given Facebook information from her vanilla identity, the company had somehow discerned her real-world connection to these people -- and, even more horrifyingly, her account was potentially being presented to them as a friend suggestion too, outing her regular identity to them. Because Facebook insists on concealing the methods and data it uses to link one user to another, Leila is not able to find out how the network exposed her or take steps to prevent it from happening again. "We're living in an age where you can weaponize personal information against people"
Kashmir Hill, the reporter who wrote the above story, a few weeks ago shared another similar incident.
 
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I was at a meeting one day and about ten of us are sitting around when my boss says to me "everyone has a Facebook count except for you." I thought, that's damn right I don't need my boss snooping around my Facebook account.
 

COMMANDERKEEN

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icloud is a link to all................ask the Russians !!
 

giver_snoot

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I was browesing fb on my cell a few months ago, when i noticed that fb was reccomending a sp i had seen as a possible friend. I can only think fb linked us because we visited a common web site "leolist"
 

westwoody

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I was at a meeting one day and about ten of us are sitting around when my boss says to me "everyone has a Facebook count except for you." I thought, that's damn right I don't need my boss snooping around my Facebook account.
Damn right indeed.
People give Superstore and Canadian Tire all their personal details in exchange for a bag of cookies.

That would be a great scam, walk around pretending to take credit card applications and collecting everything you need for identity theft....been done already no doubt.
 

Reference3A

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It's likely she used FB on her work phone and the security was set to read the contacts and voila. It not only would out her, it would out her clients and perhaps other SP's. SP's follow each other on FB so you just go through their friends list or their likes/comments and you'll find everyone else. It's basic infosec. When I was a black hat hacker I had zero cross contamination. I had a phone, computer, etc separate for everything. It's likely the reason I was never arrested. A guy recently went down because he used his VPN to log into his personal accounts & the FBI pressured the provider for the information. An easy arrested. SP's need to use that level of vigilance.

As a side note, I was chided some time ago by an SP on this forum because I had, at one time, worked with my SP spouse and handled her inquiries. It was implied that was "insecure" and a violation of privacy. Golly, maybe I know what I'm talking about or I'm just a really good liar.
Why are you always trying to sell yourself or your knowledge.
If you were or are some big time computer hacker or whiz would
think you had better things to do than troll an escort site.
Not judging, just saying.

But the solution to what the OP brings is simple.
Dont use Facebook. You can live a healthy productive
life without being on Facebook. Personally dont use
FB, twitter,Snapchat or Instagram. This and another
site out of Alberta is it for me and i do just fine.
Business's can thrive without Social Media as well.
 

Reference3A

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Whose trolling the site? I offer advice on security related issues on a blog, on Twitter, in my paid career & to pretty much anyone that asks. You can read it or you can use the ignore feature.

As for your claim on social media. This is absolute nonsense. Twitter and Instagram are excellent visual tools for these women to increase their business & cultivate a stable client base versus BP, LL, etc. Social media offers them a free platform THEY control to cultivate business & build a client base of regulars. It also offers them the opportunity to make themselves multi-dimensional versus one dimensional fuck dolls. If anything escorts & domme's don't use social media enough. They could easily build a platform that includes video, audio, still photography, blogging, etc. Just because YOU live without it doesn't mean anyone else has too.

BTW, if you're so social media, why are you on .... social media?
No not nonsense. Business's and individuals can survive just fine
without Facebook. Can it be advantageous, at times I suppose.
But i do think negatives often outweigh positives especially when
it comes discretion and privacy.
Dont misquote me either. Your last comment comes across as i was
telling people not to use it. I wasnt telling anybody anything. It was
merely a suggestion.

Yes i am two escort sites. Where I'm able to remain anonymous
until i meet up with a lady etc. Just like everyone else here i do
prefer discretion and privacy. Last time i checked that is what we
do here, right? Otherwise our handles would be our names, phone
numbers, email addresses would be listed here as well.
As i explained to my ATF, I'm private not because I'm being secret
or have something to hide. I'm private as its my business.
That is the problem with most forms of social media. Ones privacy and personal
information gets out there for the world to see. I just cant see
any benefit to that. IMHO.
 

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I also think she used her phone to log into FB, but then why would she be horrified? Unless she isn't all there...If you don't want this to happen or care about this happening, DON'T use your work phone to log into anything not even instagram. It's not Facebook's fault or some secret algorithm, it's just common sense. And if this horrifies you so much and you have so much to risk, don't post photos of yourself that can be publicly viewed. Post a cartoon or some random pic as your public profile photo, and you won't have this problem.
 

vanperb

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It's more than just reading contact information. I visited an SP once and when I got home she showed on my friend recommendation list. I have Facebook on this phone but I've never saved her contact, and didn't access any nearby routers which could share ip information. There's something way more sophisticated or deep that's happening.

I had one SP I haven't seen in years show up suddenly on my recommendations as well. I have a feeling it's because she managed to find me, and looked at my profile.

To be perfectly safe:

1. Don't have any form of social media profile.
2. Act like you're really two separate people. Separate phones, separate data plans, never use the same router, never turn on location, the works.
3. Get a classic burner phone with just voice and text capabilities just for SP / Hobbying use.
 

girth-brooks

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There's so much information acquired with the apps on your smartphone it's quite alarming. Don't believe me? Check out CBC Marketplace on this very issue.
I know of a fairly popular independent SP that quit all her personal social media accounts before getting into escorting for that very reason.
 

Reference3A

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It's more than just reading contact information. I visited an SP once and when I got home she showed on my friend recommendation list. I have Facebook on this phone but I've never saved her contact, and didn't access any nearby routers which could share ip information. There's something way more sophisticated or deep that's happening.

I had one SP I haven't seen in years show up suddenly on my recommendations as well. I have a feeling it's because she managed to find me, and looked at my profile.

To be perfectly safe:

1. Don't have any form of social media profile.
2. Act like you're really two separate people. Separate phones, separate data plans, never use the same router, never turn on location, the works.
3. Get a classic burner phone with just voice and text capabilities just for SP / Hobbying use.
Def something is going on as I have heard this as well from others.
Clients & SP's showing up as friend recommendations on one another
FB accounts etc. Partly could be due to technology and i think partly
cause people are curious or snoopy.

if for whatever reason its a must to be on FB your 3
recommendations are good ideas.
4. Use alias on FB. Couple people i know do that.
Close friends & family know, thats it.

Doing all these work arounds just to be on a site and
maintain privacy does seem like a pain though.
Life was def simpler when growing up as all we had was
a rotary dial phone. lol
 

bootyman69

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It's more than just reading contact information. I visited an SP once and when I got home she showed on my friend recommendation list. I have Facebook on this phone but I've never saved her contact, and didn't access any nearby routers which could share ip information. There's something way more sophisticated or deep that's happening.
Most likely the SP had your email in her email "Address Book" and had granted Facebook access to her contacts. Facebook then searched its' data base looking for any email addresses which appeared in the SP's email contacts list. When it finds a match or matches, it sends a friend recommendation to all of the matches and these matches then show up as friend recommendations on the SP's Facebook account.

bootyman69
 

vanperb

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Most likely the SP had your email in her email "Address Book" and had granted Facebook access to her contacts. Facebook then searched its' data base looking for any email addresses which appeared in the SP's email contacts list. When it finds a match or matches, it sends a friend recommendation to all of the matches and these matches then show up as friend recommendations on the SP's Facebook account.

bootyman69
Like I said she wasn't in my contacts at all. No email, no phoone number, no nothing. Nothing about her was saved, not even the text messages after our session. For all Facebook knows it could have been a telemarketing number. The weird thing is that I don't have Facebook installed on my phone, and I've never browsed it on my phone either, especially when meeting someone. On top of that, my phone number is listed in Facebook either.
 

apl16

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Look left. Way left.
Keeping separate your hobby life from your real life is important. Was seeing a regular lady for a while last year. The more we met the better the service was. She started digging at my private life. Eventually, she got crazy with me when I wouldn't take her to my place and tell her private information.
Got her to admit that she was looking for someone to take care of her and get out of the business.
Too bad. It ruined a good thing!
 

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Everybody sells data to everybody. Last year I bought a bunch of computers from a computer company. A very cute Chinese girl emailed me to confirm some info, I emailed back. A week later I logged on to Facebook and she was offered as potential friend. I thought about "friending" her, but I'm much too old and didn't want to be added to her "Dirty Old Men" list. No, she isn't a potential SP. She's much too busy with school and 2 jobs - at least according to what she has on Facebook.
 
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