How do know it's safe and question on bareback

[willge]

As you can tell, I'm new to Perb. I'm been browsing here and also CL for a little while.

First, the incall/outcall thing: I usually go for gals who do outcalls - this is because I know for sure there won't be any surprises in the room.

You see, with any incall from an SP you don't know (any known CL poster), how would you know if there's no dude lurking behind somewhere with a knife? How do know if there aren't any cameras hidden?

Am I being a bit over the top here - come on people, don't you ever have the slightess doubt of danger whenever you go into a SP's place and you absolutely know nothing about the SP - other than what you read on CL? Sometimes it's tempting to do an incall, but it's the danger of uncertainty kinda turns me away.

And what about the bareback thing. Surely people are aware here that any transfer of body fluid (kissing, DATY, BBBJ) is potentially a way to catch the HIV virus - the risk is low, but entirely possible and real. Why would anyone take the risk? Don't you rather want it covered up and protect yourself first and foremost? Why take the risk of an hours' fun and risk a lifetime of misery? Just wondering...myself, I have always refused DFK/LFK/DATY/BBBJ - I have always wanted everything to be covered if the SP was willing otherwise. Comments?

 

[nd1]

Abtinence is the Only Safe Thing to Do!



But it's boring as hell too!

As you can tell, I'm new to Perb. I'm been browsing here and also CL for a little while.

First, the incall/outcall thing: I usually go for gals who do outcalls - this is because I know for sure there won't be any surprises in the room.

You see, with any incall from an SP you don't know (any known CL poster), how would you know if there's no dude lurking behind somewhere with a knife? How do know if there aren't any cameras hidden?

Am I being a bit over the top here - come on people, don't you ever have the slightess doubt of danger whenever you go into a SP's place and you absolutely know nothing about the SP - other than what you read on CL? Sometimes it's tempting to do an incall, but it's the danger of uncertainty kinda turns me away.

And what about the bareback thing. Surely people are aware here that any transfer of body fluid (kissing, DATY, BBBJ) is potentially a way to catch the HIV virus - the risk is low, but entirely possible and real. Why would anyone take the risk? Don't you rather want it covered up and protect yourself first and foremost? Why take the risk of an hours' fun and risk a lifetime of misery? Just wondering...myself, I have always refused DFK/LFK/DATY/BBBJ - I have always wanted everything to be covered if the SP was willing otherwise. Comments?

We all take risk and we all have different levels of risk-aversion or risk-tolerance. Do what you think is acceptable to you; just because others do it, doesn't mean YOU have to too.

But, frankly, the only 100% safe thing to do is not to do it. Aside from that, we are talking about shades of grey and not black and white any more. So, if playing in this hobby gets you all tangled up in your underwear, you might want to re-consider whether this hobby is for you.

Play safe!

 

[willge]

And that is my whole point. Living is a necessity. Driving is a must for most. Seeing an SP is optional. You will not die not seeing an SP, but you may die if you catch something. What is saying here is that for me less really is more. Less risk more likely you'll live. I go into it thinking do I want to risk my life for one hour of BBBJ? I don't think so. Cover up and be safe. I don't see it worth being the risk. And really for the SPs out there, why take that risk either. If an SP offers BBBJ, CIM - I won't be seeing her. If she sensible enough to say no to bareback/DATY/kissing - hey I'll consider her if she's my type. That's just me.

 

[gpchillin]

Of course everyone enjoys sex but i'm also pretty sure nobody here would say they would die for it, Even covered up it's not 100% safe but it's about as safe as it can be besides poking a hole in your pillow

Just because some girls offer BBBJ does not mean you need to partake in it, Do what you feel comfortable with and even skip seeing the girls that offer if you want. Hell i've been with some that won't even let you touch their tits or anything and want $300. Might as well stay home and rub one out it is more enjoyable.

 

[Surrey's Jewel]

Live in fear or .....

I worry more about using my cel phone all day. Put it this way. My step father is the world's most health conscious guy on the planet. He eats nothing but organically grown food, has never had an ounce of fat on his body. Runs, hikes, (only with 30 spf sunscreen of course) reads all the latest medical things, takes the absolute best possible care of himself, has never smoked etc. etc. He just had a massive heart attack at 60. My grandfather was overweight all his life, never really exercised, drank, smoked when he was younger. He had 3 heart attacks and the last one he had in his 80's I took my grandmother to go see him in the hospital and she was smuggling him in food ... bad food ! He was bragging to all the other heart patients about the fish and chips my grandmother smuggled in. He loved life ... he died of natural causes at 95. My poor stepfather is miserable. He's done everything he can to stay in top health and is so consumed by it and then had this life altering heart attack ... he's ruined emotionally. I mean I wouldn't have bare back full service with someone involved in IV drugs or who looked like they had been festering HIV for years but I'm not gonna worry about everything !

 

[CaraClementine]

My Perspective...

I am a provider that does not offer BBBJ, but does offer DATY (YMMV). I also do not offer outcalls (only to hotels, and on occasion whilst touring in Victoria).

The biggest risk with uncovered oral sex is contracting Herpes and HVP. I am too lazy to look up the link, but the Health Nurse says that HIV transmission through uncovered oral is very low (if there are no sores present). I know that if I were on the other end of the spectrum, I would avoid BBBJ at all costs. I am not suggesting DATY has no risks... however, it seems that BBBJ has more risks associated.

As far as the incall vs. outcall situation... if you choose reputable ladies, who are well reviewed - you do not have to worry about incidents of violence and robbery.

Be aware that residential outcalls can also put you in a vulnerable position.... one of those reasons, being that your address is known.

OP, professional companions are a luxury.... choose wisely, and be safer There will always be an element of risk, but it is within your power to minimize it.

 

[willge]

When I do invite the SP for the outcalls, it's never to my home - I always just book a hotel. I much rather pay the extra than risk anyone tracking me down. It's a hobby, but must be played safely. I don't mind spending the extra. To be honest, I would much rather spend $x10 or more on a truly elite, clean safe SP, in a safe environment, rather than $$ or less on someone who I really don't trust.

People: if there are these high $ SP (and safe) that are out there, share the info, I'd be interested to know.

 

[JFF009]

And that is my whole point. Living is a necessity. Driving is a must for most. Seeing an SP is optional. If an SP offers BBBJ, CIM - I won't be seeing her. If she sensible enough to say no to bareback/DATY/kissing - hey I'll consider her if she's my type. That's just me.

You're right...that's just you. There is risk associated with everything we do. Part of our makeup is how we assess risk and how we decide how much risk we want to take.

If you find there is too much risk seeing someone who may kiss when she is with a man who likes to kiss then don't see her. You will find an SP just as terrified as you and the two of you can have wonderful "germ free" sex...but please don't try to preach to the rest of us about the risks we are taking. Everyone knows the risks and sets their own comfort level.

As far as telling you who to see...simply go to the ads on here or other sites and search for what you want. There are plenty out there who look good, will wrap everything up, and won't kiss or lick you anywhere.

 

[Aeiyah]

Driving is a must for most. Seeing an SP is optional. You will not die not seeing an SP, but you may die if you catch something. What is saying here is that for me less really is more. Less risk more likely you'll live.

The riskiest thing that most people do every day is drive to work. More people die in traffic fatalities than complications from H1N1. For many people driving to work isn't a necessity, but an option they chose for convenience. The only truly safe sex is masturbation. Even an activity such as a peck on the lips has a risk of HSV1 transmission.

 

[hunsperger]

...

organically grown food

one of the greatest frauds ever foisted on the consumer...

 

[Aeiyah]

How did you injure yourself?? (Don't pull so hard man)!!
It's a marathon, not a race!!

Repetitive strain injury.

 

[WHOA]

And that is my whole point. Living is a necessity. Driving is a must for most. Seeing an SP is optional. You will not die not seeing an SP, but you may die if you catch something. What is saying here is that for me less really is more. Less risk more likely you'll live. I go into it thinking do I want to risk my life for one hour of BBBJ? I don't think so. Cover up and be safe. I don't see it worth being the risk. And really for the SPs out there, why take that risk either. If an SP offers BBBJ, CIM - I won't be seeing her. If she sensible enough to say no to bareback/DATY/kissing - hey I'll consider her if she's my type. That's just me.

The odds of HIV transfer through CIM for either party are very slim. For her to contract it she would have to have an open wound in her mouth. By the time it got to her stomach, her stomach acids and digestive enzymes would have killed the virus. So the odds of her contracting it are low.

The odds of that happening to you are so low. Take the percentage of escorts (escorts, not corner girls) who have HIV. Divide by the odds of oral transmission, then divide by the odds that you have an open sore on your dick (or, alternatively, the very very small odds of transfer through urethra lining) and she has a sore in her mouth.

There is such a big misconception about how easy it is to get aids. Did you know that during UNPROTECTED heterosexual sex where the female carries the virus, your odds of contracting are only 1 in 1000?

Overall, my thoughts on the subject are that I'm a risky guy and if have to take a one in a hundred thousand or so chance if getting a disease which will likely be cured in my lifetime in exchange for some enjoyment and fun, so be it.

 

[Im Cuming]

My cents worth blah blah blah

Everyone is responsible for there own actions. Certain things are controllable certain things just aren't.


I NEVER WIPE MY ASS BAREBACK.