How are you voting in the upcoming provincial election?

[BrokenArrow]

I'd vote for an independant.... but we all know the Conservatives will win.

Most polls shows the Conservatives are favoured. Sure polls don't mean that much in the end. But it's telling that there is more than the usual support for Conservatives in BC, than it is traditionally with the NDP.

That's your opinion, I disagree, I think the NDP will win, and when all is said and done BC will make the right choice and keep the NDP in.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

I liked many of the things the Green said in the dabate but will most likely avoid splitt8ng the vote. Many people ive talked to have said the same.

 

[marsvolta]

That's your opinion, I disagree, I think the NDP will win, and when all is said and done BC will make the right choice and keep the NDP in.

i'm sorry if my crass, tongue in cheek posts don't come across properly. the day that the wealth growth rate of the top 10% of the population falls below the wealth growth rate of the bottom 50% of the population after tax then i might consider voting for conservative tax policy... but its been 40 years since its even been close.

 

[Noob888]

Is there any point to voting? It's obvious the privileged and ultra-privileged continue to support the NDP. Rusty doesn't have his shit together. I've received many SMS from the NDP with misleading and erroneous information. The Cons have done nothing to counteract these ads.

Anyways, the late George said it best...

 

[ModSquad]

I’ve never voted NDP ever but will this time because they have way less stink on them compared with the alternative retread nut bars from Liberals and Conservatives.

I don’t think my life has suffered one bit while Horgan and Eby have been at the helm.

 

[PuntMeister]

I’ve never voted NDP ever but will this time because they have way less stink on them compared with the alternative retread nut bars from Liberals and Conservatives.

I don’t think my life has suffered one bit while Horgan and Eby have been at the helm.

Seriously?

Maybe you were lucky and didn’t lose a grandparent in seniors housing due to workers spreading covid by working in multple locations when the gov’t knew this was a problem and failed to act for months until the death toll climbed and they finally changed their socialist policies. Seniors dying alone without family support should not be forgotten as an NDP legacy. It happened. I weep to this day for family members who died wrongly.

Nursing shortage? Maybe their authoritarian dictatorship of mandated policies turned people who want to help other people away from much needed carrer choices. Hope you didn’t suffer from avoidable medical wait times and suffer with a condition for months/years because of socialist dogma that says public health care is the only superior model. Croc of shit when you are hurting and can’t even see a family doctor.

Perhaps Eby was too busy pandering to his reconcilliation agenda and throwing property owners’ rights under the bus to score woke agenda points. All BC laws now need to conform to UNDRIP which effectively says all land Provincial and Private lands need to go back to indiginous control. Unconstitutional, but happening under Eby’s leadership. UN redistribution of society has no place in Canada. Eby needs to go down with Trudeau’s evil Un agenda.

Complete failure on drug overdose crisis. Worse than ever. Yet NDP thought safe supply would reduce harm. Wrongo—free drugs means more addicts than ever. Couple that with tent cities expanding exponentially and we have a massive policy failure perpetuating death on a daily basis. Too many loved ones have been lost as a result of NDP decisions. Did you know that 38% of organ trandplants now come from drug overdose victims? Seems an inconvenient truth.

Then there is the affordable housing crisis. My kids can’t afford to buy anything anywhere, and are hard pressed to rent a place. The NDP should have reslized earlier that instead of punishing current property owners, they need to focus seriously on supply encouragement. Not a few gov’t ptojects, but massive red tape cutting. Affordability has worsened under this government.

Time for a change. I will NOT be voting for the NDP regime.

 

[Oldfart]

I liked many of the things the Green said in the dabate but will most likely avoid splitt8ng the vote. Many people ive talked to have said the same.

The Green Party of BC receives revenue based on the number of votes they get in an election. Voting Green is not "wasting" a vote. It's investing in the future of the party.
https://elections.bc.ca/candidates-parties/annual-allowances/

 

[Crookedmember]

The choice is between the sane and steady Eby, and a crazy Facebook conspiracy theory grampa. The NDP will win as the far-right MAGA Cons are now being abandoned by women and young people.

 

[marsvolta]

Is there any point to voting? It's obvious the privileged and ultra-privileged continue to support the NDP. Rusty doesn't have his shit together. I've received many SMS from the NDP with misleading and erroneous information. The Cons have done nothing to counteract these ads.

Anyways, the late George said it best...

"The public sucks! Fuck hope!" i loved that! god, George was such a funny guy...

but who exactly are these privileged and ultra-privileged supporters of the NDP? exactly? is that Jim Pattison? Chip Wilson?

 

[ExpCharlee]

I speculate that it is probably 'horizontal' and all inclusive towards us.

Not at all 😂 if you’re gonna vote conservative I’m probably not interested in seeing you hahaha

 

[marsvolta]

Seriously?

Maybe you were lucky and didn’t lose a grandparent in seniors housing due to workers spreading covid by working in multple locations when the gov’t knew this was a problem and failed to act for months until the death toll climbed and they finally changed their socialist policies. Seniors dying alone without family support should not be forgotten as an NDP legacy. It happened. I weep to this day for family members who died wrongly.

Nursing shortage? Maybe their authoritarian dictatorship of mandated policies turned people who want to help other people away from much needed carrer choices. Hope you didn’t suffer from avoidable medical wait times and suffer with a condition for months/years because of socialist dogma that says public health care is the only superior model. Croc of shit when you are hurting and can’t even see a family doctor.

Perhaps Eby was too busy pandering to his reconcilliation agenda and throwing property owners’ rights under the bus to score woke agenda points. All BC laws now need to conform to UNDRIP which effectively says all land Provincial and Private lands need to go back to indiginous control. Unconstitutional, but happening under Eby’s leadership. UN redistribution of society has no place in Canada. Eby needs to go down with Trudeau’s evil Un agenda.

Complete failure on drug overdose crisis. Worse than ever. Yet NDP thought safe supply would reduce harm. Wrongo—free drugs means more addicts than ever. Couple that with tent cities expanding exponentially and we have a massive policy failure perpetuating death on a daily basis. Too many loved ones have been lost as a result of NDP decisions. Did you know that 38% of organ trandplants now come from drug overdose victims? Seems an inconvenient truth.

Then there is the affordable housing crisis. My kids can’t afford to buy anything anywhere, and are hard pressed to rent a place. The NDP should have reslized earlier that instead of punishing current property owners, they need to focus seriously on supply encouragement. Not a few gov’t ptojects, but massive red tape cutting. Affordability has worsened under this government.

Time for a change. I will NOT be voting for the NDP regime.

are you talking about the lack of regulation or enforcement for private seniors housing? you think thats something that an anti regulatory party will handle better? like in Ontario and Alberta?

is any medical system problems we have going to be fixed by the conservatives move to privatize health care? maybe that will work just as well as for profit nursing homes...

both the NDP and Conservatives are waking up to the fact that we need mandatory treatment for drug addiction. it will come down to which party is willing to find a way to pay for it. Conservatives will not be taxing Jim Pattison or Chip Wilson more. that we know for sure. maybe they'll re-introduce health care user fees! which they will announce after the election of course...

i'm not up on all of the particular facets of reconciliation... but "woke agenda points" is far too vague to consider as an actual argument. what i do know is that much of this is to head off lengthy court battles that have plagued many business ventures to date. there are a tonne of problems with indigenous self rule at the moment for certain. are the Conservatives just going to go back to decades long litigation to get major projects through?

the Conservatives promoted nothing during the bubble in housing prices. no political party did. there was no political party willing to put a stop to that. but, the Conservatives have yet to drop their actual policy agenda so... lets see if its as ridiculous as the federal Conservatives "do nothing" policy.

 

[oldshark]

Not at all 😂 if you’re gonna vote conservative I’m probably not interested in seeing you hahaha

Given your reply, I don't think that there would be any challenges in seeing me then as I am moderate middle of the road.

 

[PuntMeister]

are you talking about the lack of regulation or enforcement for private seniors housing? you think thats something that an anti regulatory party will handle better? like in Ontario and Alberta?
I am talking about the arrogance displayed by the NDP during the start of covid and their delays and flip-flops on masks, seniors home cross-contamination, etc. They knew about the problem and waited and waited, and then Horgan wanted to talk with all of the unions for a few weeks before doing anything while seniors died alone. It was a policy and leadership failure. And yes, I do think other parties will clean up all the health care crises better than Eby & Dix, who’s actions have lead to revolts at the front-line level, worsening conditions for healthcare workers, longer wait times, and lousy access to doctors. As the Greens put it, the NPD added layers of beuracracy when what is needed is front line workers. That, and getting rid of the rampant system innefficiencies that keep them from doing their job. I think the Conservatives have the will power to take on the challenge; the NDP just makes excuses and dishearten the people trying to provide care.

is any medical system problems we have going to be fixed by theervatives move to privatize health care? maybe that will work just as well as for profit nursing homes...

both the NDP and Conservatives are waking up to the fact that we need mandatory treatment for drug addiction. it will come down to which party is willing to find a way to pay for it. Conservatives will not be taxing Jim Pattison or Chip Wilson more. that we know for sure. maybe they'll re-introduce health care user fees! which they will announce after the election of course...
The NDP are slow to wake up because they thought making rooms available for addicts and free drug supply would make tent cities and overdoses go away. They were dead wrong! And slow to act even now as it shows they blew it and didn’t understand how many more people would get addicted, sell the free drugs, and reject the room offers because many addicts prefer street culture over government housing rules. These poor addicts still have no legitimate place to go, so millions dead, rotating tent cities, and our own government participating in the drug trade is the NDP legacy on the drug crisis. The Conservatives are ahead in mandatory treatment policy and will certainly do more to clean up the mess that the NDP has left.

Now, a Private vs.Public healthcare system is not on the table. But what is on the table and consistently rejected by socialist hacks is private delivery of services within the public system when the public system capacity is exceeded. This is very successful in european contries like Sweden. Most of the wait times can shrink to a fraction of what they are now, and research shows that doesn't need to cost more. It’s not about taxing the people more or stoking the popular cry to tax a fee rich people more. We pay enough taxes already to justify a much more effective healthcare system. It’s about getting people the services they need when they need them. It’s about replacing large beuracracoes and excess administrators with doctors and nurses. It’s about making the system attractive to the people who provide care. There’s a ton of waste to get rid of, and the current government doesn’t recognize the rancid stench of their own policies. Time for a change.

i'm not up on all of the particular facets of reconciliation... but "woke agenda points" is far too vague to consider as an actual argument. what i do know is that much of this is to head off lengthy court battles that have plagued many business ventures to date. there are a tonne of problems with indigenous self rule at the moment for certain. are the Conservatives just going to go back to decades long litigation to get major projects through?

That’s the claimed motivation, but without a doubt this is Eby’s ego trip. He wants to be the guy that achieves reconciliation, but he believes in the UN koolaid brand of UNDRIP to the letter, which is far too extreme and far beyong what the Supreme court sanctions. Do some research on the failed Land Act ammendment the NDP tried to ram through. See what they have done to strip rights of property owners and promote indiginous decision making on 95% of the province that are public lands. Parks and highways shut down. Backroom deals made with first nations without public consultation. Abandoning all of Haida Gwai as an executivr decision. This is in-line with the woke NDP agenda to reverse colonial history in B.C. there will be many lengthy court cases to come. Just the plaintiffs will shift.

the Conservatives promoted nothing during the bubble in housing prices. no political party did. there was no political party willing to put a stop to that. but, the Conservatives have yet to drop their actual policy agenda so... lets see if its as ridiculous as the federal Conservatives "do nothing" policy.

One thing is for sure, the taxes the NDP have added on (spec tax, carbon tax, etc.) have increased the cost of housing and the cost of living in BC. The NDP’s answer always seems to be to take control and tax things, instead of dealing with the core problems. Whatever government takes over, I sure hope they learn from the mistakes of the NDP and put policies in place that remove red tape and encourage housing supply that is not controlled by the government.

 

[Crookedmember]

Not at all 😂 if you’re gonna vote conservative I’m probably not interested in seeing you hahaha

I don't blame you. It would be agonizing having sex with people who only know how to repeat three-word slogans.

Ax the tax! Build the homes! Cut the crime!

 

[marsvolta]

are you talking about the lack of regulation or enforcement for private seniors housing? you think thats something that an anti regulatory party will handle better? like in Ontario and Alberta?
I am talking about the arrogance displayed by the NDP during the start of covid and their delays and flip-flops on masks, seniors home cross-contamination, etc. They knew about the problem and waited and waited, and then Horgan wanted to talk with all of the unions for a few weeks before doing anything while seniors died alone. It was a policy and leadership failure. And yes, I do think other parties will clean up all the health care crises better than Eby & Dix, who’s actions have lead to revolts at the front-line level, worsening conditions for healthcare workers, longer wait times, and lousy access to doctors. As the Greens put it, the NPD added layers of beuracracy when what is needed is front line workers. That, and getting rid of the rampant system innefficiencies that keep them from doing their job. I think the Conservatives have the will power to take on the challenge; the NDP just makes excuses and dishearten the people trying to provide care.

and yet, BC bested the Canadian provincial average of covid deaths per million. besting Quebec, Alberta, Manitoba and Saskatchewan.

COVID-19 pandemic in Canada

is any medical system problems we have going to be fixed by theervatives move to privatize health care? maybe that will work just as well as for profit nursing homes...

both the NDP and Conservatives are waking up to the fact that we need mandatory treatment for drug addiction. it will come down to which party is willing to find a way to pay for it. Conservatives will not be taxing Jim Pattison or Chip Wilson more. that we know for sure. maybe they'll re-introduce health care user fees! which they will announce after the election of course...
The NDP are slow to wake up because they thought making rooms available for addicts and free drug supply would make tent cities and overdoses go away. They were dead wrong! And slow to act even now as it shows they blew it and didn’t understand how many more people would get addicted, sell the free drugs, and reject the room offers because many addicts prefer street culture over government housing rules. These poor addicts still have no legitimate place to go, so millions dead, rotating tent cities, and our own government participating in the drug trade is the NDP legacy on the drug crisis. The Conservatives are ahead in mandatory treatment policy and will certainly do more to clean up the mess that the NDP has left.

the conservatives are ahead on mandatory treatment policy? do tell. because they have yet to publish any policy yet...

Now, a Private vs.Public healthcare system is not on the table. But what is on the table and consistently rejected by socialist hacks is private delivery of services within the public system when the public system capacity is exceeded. This is very successful in european contries like Sweden. Most of the wait times can shrink to a fraction of what they are now, and research shows that doesn't need to cost more. It’s not about taxing the people more or stoking the popular cry to tax a fee rich people more. We pay enough taxes already to justify a much more effective healthcare system. It’s about getting people the services they need when they need them. It’s about replacing large beuracracoes and excess administrators with doctors and nurses. It’s about making the system attractive to the people who provide care. There’s a ton of waste to get rid of, and the current government doesn’t recognize the rancid stench of their own policies. Time for a change.

while the conservatives have no published policy yet... B.C. Conservatives' health-care plan pitches private clinics so, i would suggest it is "on the table". "Rustad did not have a cost estimate for his platform, but he promised millions in savings by slashing health-care administrators"... right. hilarious. must be the evil administrators! they'll figure out where to get the money somewhere. i promise its not going to be from people like me, who hasn't paid a dime in personal taxes in 25 years. Healthcare in Sweden is very comparable to Canada... except that they pay more money per capita. everybody knows there just needs to be more money. its just a matter of who's taxes are going up. bring back medical services fees! you know... regressive taxation!

i'm not up on all of the particular facets of reconciliation... but "woke agenda points" is far too vague to consider as an actual argument. what i do know is that much of this is to head off lengthy court battles that have plagued many business ventures to date. there are a tonne of problems with indigenous self rule at the moment for certain. are the Conservatives just going to go back to decades long litigation to get major projects through?

That’s the claimed motivation, but without a doubt this is Eby’s ego trip. He wants to be the guy that achieves reconciliation, but he believes in the UN koolaid brand of UNDRIP to the letter, which is far too extreme and far beyong what the Supreme court sanctions. Do some research on the failed Land Act ammendment the NDP tried to ram through. See what they have done to strip rights of property owners and promote indiginous decision making on 95% of the province that are public lands. Parks and highways shut down. Backroom deals made with first nations without public consultation. Abandoning all of Haida Gwai as an executivr decision. This is in-line with the woke NDP agenda to reverse colonial history in B.C. there will be many lengthy court cases to come. Just the plaintiffs will shift.

well i can't really speak to arrogance, ego trips and wokeness. insufficient data.

Rustad supported the adoption of United Nations Declarations on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples in 2019. the vote was unanomous in the legislature. now he wants to repeal it. no one can claim that any of this is going to be easy. if you think hard push back is required then you might be right. its just the nature of the conflict.

the Conservatives promoted nothing during the bubble in housing prices. no political party did. there was no political party willing to put a stop to that. but, the Conservatives have yet to drop their actual policy agenda so... lets see if its as ridiculous as the federal Conservatives "do nothing" policy.

One thing is for sure, the taxes the NDP have added on (spec tax, carbon tax, etc.) have increased the cost of housing and the cost of living in BC. The NDP’s answer always seems to be to take control and tax things, instead of dealing with the core problems. Whatever government takes over, I sure hope they learn from the mistakes of the NDP and put policies in place that remove red tape and encourage housing supply that is not controlled by the government.

red tape. the conserivative boogie man. if we are talking about regulation then its democracy that is the red tape. the red tape is community plans, building codes etc etc. tell the people in west vancouver that developers can start buying properties and build multi townhouse complexes. then you'll see people waiving red tape around!

i actually laugh at the federal conservaties housing "policy". stop federal distributions if cities cannot meet new housing numbers. hilarious! push all the pressure on city councils! i laugh and laugh. what a fuckin cop out. it'll never happen. but as i say... "conservatives" don't like to spend Chip Wilsons money because he's planning to spend another $1m to have the Red Hot Chilli Peppers come play at his house again soon. so their efforts will be completely toothless.

 

[Chuckerbie]

of course, otherwise I’m not allowed to bitch

 

[Crookedmember]

The thing about this BC Conservative Party is most of the candidates are nutbars.

They're racists, misogynists, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, Facebook conspiracy theory spreaders.

Few have any education. They're basically a bunch of fucking morons.

And some folks want to let these losers run the province? Pick the people who run the hospitals? Decide what kids learn in school? Get us through the next pandemic?

Are you crazy? Have you suffered a recent head injury?

 

[LLLurkJ2]

The thing about this BC Conservative Party is most of the candidates are nutbars.

They're racists, misogynists, anti-vaxxers, climate change deniers, Facebook conspiracy theory spreaders.

Few have any education. They're basically a bunch of fucking morons.

And some folks want to let these losers run the province? Pick the people who run the hospitals? Decide what kids learn in school? Get us through the next pandemic?

Are you crazy? Have you suffered a recent head injury?

Not mention Rustard straight up lying about that witnessing the overdose on provincewide tv - I think he might have just handed the NDP the election.

 

[VinVan]

Not mention Rustard straight up lying about that witnessing the overdose on provincewide tv - I think he might have just handed the NDP the election.

Yeah, that was an unforced error, for sure. I guess, we’ve all ginned up stories sitting around with the boys and girls with beer in hand, but to do it in a televised political debate seems a little foolhardy. Mind you, there is a pathological liar to the south of us who spews so much shit he doesn’t know himself what is truth and what is fiction; and yet he may still win that election. I guess that’s the moral here: if you’re gonna lie these days, you gotta go all in. But Rustad is trying to come across as a “decent” guy and the reality is he can’t have it both ways. Are Canadians less tolerant of liars? I guess we’ll see.

The sad part is that the pandemic of fentanyl deaths is a legitimate issue and he didn’t have to fabricate a story to make it so. I guess what he was trying to do was to dramatize his point by saying, “I saw this.” Some kind of fake empathy when his solution is to “shut down the tent cities.” Obviously, he hasn’t been paying attention because of every time a tent city has been shut down in the last 10 years the people relocate in a matter of days in a game of whack-a-mole. The reality is that these humans are for the most part homeless drug addicts with nowhere else to go. Short of shipping everyone off to a penal colony he has offered no plausible solutions.

Pinning the whole crisis at the feet of the NDP is a bit naive, when the scourge is devastating every city in the world and will continue to do so under Eby’s watch or Rustad’s.

 

[PuntMeister]

https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/vaughn-palmer-ndp-bc-first-nations-power-lands

Eby’s decolonizarion agenda temains clear. Wreckless and dangerous. The NDP will figure out a way to ram UNDRIP down our throats and make all public lands in BC the ward of First Nations. Get ready to apply to your local band office for your next permit.