How are you voting in the upcoming provincial election?

[80watts]

This and housing are the two biggest social issues of our time.

For those of you old enough to remember how the whole DTES shithole started in Vancouver, you have to go back to the 80s when the government of the day, the Social Credit party (which hijacked and became the provincial Liberals when they needed a rebrand because of their shitty record; which rebranded to The United Party because of the shitty BC Liberal record; which imploded and is now morphing into the BC Conservatives because of United incompetence - or incontinence - haha) closed down the Riverview Psychiatric Hospital in Coquitlam as a cost-cutting measure that was in-line with the Conservative mantra of the day (and today) that the private sector can do it better. Except they had some quarter-baked plan to outsource the care of thousands of the most traumatized and demanding psychiatric patients in the province to the “communities” without providing and resources. Well, if you have no money and no support you end up in the DTES self medicating on heroin and cocaine.

So that’s how the ghetto of the DTES got turbocharged, with thousands of mentally ill British Colombians let out on the street by the Social Credit (ne, BC Liberals, ne, BC Untied, ne, BC Conservatives). Not only was it a decision lacking in any compassion, but it was a financial disaster, costing hundreds of millions (if not billions)in policing costs, hospital emergency care, and well as an entire industry of poverty pimps.

The whole point of this rather long history regurgitation is that David Eby and the NDP announced last week that they are going to start forcibly confining repeat offenders and giving them psychiatric assessments; they are also actively looking at reopening Riverview or a similar facility to house the most extreme cases, for their own good and for the good of the community.

I’ve been saying for years now that some courageous leader/government needs to do just this. Say whatever else you want about Eby, but for him to commit to this course of action (I’m sure against the will of the bleeding-heart wing of the NDP) took some cahones.

He’s got my vote for this. It took a great deal of political courage to advance this policy. If you care about your community and want the civic spaces to become civic again then this is a major step toward that end.

And I also wish to keep my vote away from Rustad who, if he was in power during Covid, would have allowed the morgues to overflow because of his rather tenuous understanding of science.

You can do your research, but most cities, provinces and the federal government, all at some point have done studies on certain things. Take a royal commission, most royal commissions recommend changes to policy, or to do something. Most of these recommendations are ignored and years later we still have the same problems creeping up again.
The reality is money. Politicians want to get re-elected, so they don't vote for stuff that is gonna cost money (at least not when an election year is present), so shit get done.
The root problems still exist....

Canada does not have these multinational companies that make profits that the US does, so we don't get much from these companies. 15% vs min 22% personal income tax.

So maybe a higher tax rate on Canadian companies making over 1 million dollars. Say 23%. No write offs. Cdn income tax min 22% no write offs unless your under the poverty line. (say 60,000).

What ever is gonna happen in the next few years is higher tax rates, no write offs, in order to balance budgets and get health care back into shape (medical and dental). Affordable housing- banks been fucking Canadians for years, they can pay back the Canadian citizens they ripped off over the years.

Cut programs that influence woke policies.

In 2015/16 — the most recent statistics available — Canadians paid $145 billion in income tax, while corporations paid $41 billion.

 

[blondeluver]

I personally think some of the new government policy should be...

• Increase tax rate for Financial Institutions only!
• Put a Caps on Bank Service Fee
• Eliminate Carbon tax
• Increase Sales tax on vehicle over $65K
• Re-introduce Minimum MSP premiums - (People living under the poverty caps is free with provided evidence). Charge end user fee 10-20% for all service to allocate the fund to build more hospitals, LTC facilities and improves the quality of service. Pay a competitive wage to workers but termination of employment (management included) if service standard is not met. This is called accountability. In all the Asian countries I have been, most if not all of them have this model and their healthcare service quality is way superior than here in BC and they have 20x our population! I've been to hospitals and clinics over there and never had to wait more than 30 minutes to be admitted/seen by a doctor.
• Build a LNG terminal to export LNG Gas to Asia
• Improve subsidy/business climate for foreign manufacturers to attract investment in BC - setup manufacturing. A country can not thrive or prosper under the Service/finance industry forever. Local manufacturing is always the way to go to build up skilled labors, capacity and self sufficiency. This will lower the cost of products due to local manufacturing, create jobs for local population and taxes for the government. Lower cost of living means there are more leftovers to spend in the economy. With quality jobs, people have the means and ability to spend and that will create a Domino effect for other business downstream. That translates into even more taxable income for the government which can reinvest the fund into free/minimum charge childcare/healthcare/dental care, LTC etc.
• More government funded social/rental housing - maybe do it like the 3P model.

 

[uncleg]

With trepidation.

 

[Bang4thebuck]

I have met Eby, though not Trudeau, and I despise them both. I haven't hated a politician ever before in my life until these 2 came into the picture. I dislike Rustad and Pollievre and how they pander to the nut jobs but if they're willing to slide a few coins over to help business owners and investors like myself then they get my vote.

 

[E.H.]

I will vote Green Party,wishing to maintain Sonia Furstenau,in public office.
Sonia Furstenau will never be Premier of BC,as she has not the qualifying commerce acumen to be our Premier.
That having been said,Sonia Furstenau is a real gem of a granola sweetheart,contrasting so sharply with American MAGA politicians like Marjory Taylor Greene & Lauren Boebert.

Engelbert Humperdink

 

[overdone]

Funny how the right wing has to change their party name every couple of years to distance themsleves from the previous incarnations

so are you impressed with the NDP basically flipping to conservative type ideas on subjects recently?

he's trying to distance himself from the Turd/Jimmy Singh, taking conservative talking points as his own now, at least conservative compared to the moronic "progressive" left wing zealotry that was the norm for the last 2 terms

 

[rampart]

What people do not realized is in studying politics in this province since BC joined confederation in 1871 is that out of 37 premiers only 12 leaders have been elected in actual provincial elections. Out of the 25 appointed premiers 8 of those have been in the past 40 years.

BC Conservative are basically the Social Credit that morphed into the Reform Party back in 1994. When the BC Reform Party under Jack Weisgerber could not make a dent in 1996 he stepped down and 5 years later was made a director of BC Hydro by Gordon Campbell a position he held for 16 years. After Weisgerber came Wilf Hanni who only lasted a couple of years then out of the wilderness came former disgraced Socred Premier Bill VanderZalm who became the acclaimed leader of the BC Reform Party. Vander Zalm tried to almalgamate the four floundering right-wing parties which included the BC Conservatives into a new party called the BC Unity Party. Does that sound familiar Mr. Falcon?

So what you have is the now defunct BC Liberal Party aka BC United who most of its members came through the more moderate Social Credit Party who were turned off by the extremist ideology of the BC Reform Party. Although the right wing of the BC Liberal Party(which they were and many of them) have embraced the diatribe of John Rustad. It will be interesting to see which way the more moderate disenfranchised voters of that sector pledge their allegiance.

The unfortunate part is that former Federal MP & Cabinet Minister Herb Dahliwal was nixed on starting the New Liberal Party of BC. This would have given a better choice for us centrist folks out there who have been disappointed by the governance of David Eby and his NDP party but no way I could strike an X in the BC Conservative Box.

Oh, and the greens are still to green to have an impact in my view.

So I will find a big clothespin to put on my nose and vote NDP.

 

[Ray]

Last few years, I am increasingly voting ABC. Anyone But Conservative.
I don't want to see cut backs to public healthcare and education. Conservatives are notorious for that. And for some reason unknown to me, nutcases seem to flock to these parties.
Eby leaves much to be desired, I do not like him as an individual. I like the Conservative leaders even less.

For the upcoming election, I will vote NDP just because I don't look forward to a conservative government. The other parties don't have a chance of winning, so it is a vote wasted, in my opinion.

 

[luvsdaty]

With an x

 

[AuldMagpye]

https://www.leolist.cc/personals/fe...we_must_shield_our_b_c_from_the_beast-8955518
Not getting into politics, but here's can interesting ad

 

[VinVan]

Hate to pop the balloon of BC-Conservative leaning voters, but they have a lot of Nut Bars in their party, using the disguise of freedom to remove liberties from the “less desirables”

These folks are importing the ignorance and bile of US right-wing misinformation to BC.

Source material from Jody Kramer: This is all documented in the Press Progress article "Leaked Dossier Reveals 200 Pages of Conspiracies and Controversial Statements From John Rustad’s BC Conservative Candidates" https://archive.is/NMCjM:

Our MAGA BC Conservative slate. With Rustad himself saying Covid vaccinations were just about controlling the population, what will happen under his government if there is another pandemic. Who will be his cabinet ministers given that he has recruited MAGA and Qanon conspiracy candidates?
Mike Harris, the BC Conservative candidate for Langford, claims it is possible to “kill” COVID-19 simply by “blowing a hair dryer up one’s nose.”
Sheldon Clare, the BC Conservative candidate for Prince George–North Cariboo, says Canada is like 1933 Germany and that he is “willing to commit insurrection.”
Jordan Kealy, the BC Conservative candidate in Peace River North, claims there is a “government plan to eat bugs” and “control the weather.”
Bryan Tepper, the BC Conservative Surrey-Panorama candidate, has promoted the idea that the storming of the Capitol building in the US didn’t happen.
John Koury, the BC Conservative candidate for the Cowichan Valley, claims that Donald Trump actually won the last US election.
Harman Bhangu, the BC Conservative for Langley-Abbotsford, argues that the storming of the Capitol was done by “Antifa” dressed up as Trump supporters. He criticized the Vancouver Canucks who wore pride-themed practice jerseys saying “There is nothing to be proud of.”
Kristina Loewen, the BC Conservative for Kelowna Centre, promotes far right conspiracy theories against a “UN world order.”
Chris Sankey, the BC Conservative candidate for North Coast–Haida Gwaii, claims that efforts to combat climate change are a “depopulation conspiracy.”
Paul Ratchford, the BC Conservative candidate for Vancouver-Point Grey, supports calls for the arrest of Bonnie Henry. He says “Violent anti-social trans extremists increasingly define the [Pride] movement.” He has called for defunding the CBC. He has called for defunding the University of BC because it hired a professor specializing in race and ethics.
Bryan Breguet, the BC Conservative candidate in Vancouver–Langara, attacks mothers who do not breastfeed by saying “You f–king decided to have a baby! Act as a f–king mother! Jesus Chris, get your priorities right.”
Rosalyn Bird, the BC Conservative candidate in Prince George-Valemount, promotes the idea that Pride supporters as “groomers” and that the government wants to “castrate kids.”
Tim Thielmann, BC Conservative candidate in Victoria–Beacon Hill, said it was “Gross” that people objected to a white supremacist daycare that advertised itself as a “whites-only” space for “proud parents of European children” looking to “escape forced diversity.”

Source material from Jody Kramer: This is all documented in the Press Progress article "Leaked Dossier Reveals 200 Pages of Conspiracies and Controversial Statements From John Rustad’s BC Conservative Candidates" https://archive.is/NMCjM

 

[VinVan]

And a small apology from Mr Rustad today:


British Columbia Conservative Leader John Rustad says he "misunderstood the question" when he appeared to support putting officials who oversaw COVID-19 public health measures on trial, similar to how Nazi leaders were prosecuted after the Second World War.

Rustad recanted his comments about "Nuremberg 2.0" in a social media post on Sunday.

"Any attempt to compare or equate the Nuremberg Trials or Nazi Germany to the COVID-19 pandemic is completely inappropriate and unacceptable," he wrote. "I strongly condemn any such comparisons and reaffirm my commitment to preserving the integrity of historical truths."

 

[kayakboi]

I predict the moderates in the Conservative Party will dump Rustad in short order and clean out all the nutcases to become a much more moderate party.

 

[ExpCharlee]

Ohhhhh this explains why half the people on this forum love me and half hate me 😂

 

[Oldfart]

One hopes the 11 will not be voting because they are not Canadian citizens and BC residents, not because they're under 18.

 

[thevalleydude]

I really liked Horgan and voted for him twice. Cancer is a bitch. Eby.....I might sit this one out.

 

[LLLurkJ2]

Ohhhhh this explains why half the people on this forum love me and half hate me 😂

Whats your platform?

 

[oldshark]

Whats your platform?

I speculate that it is probably 'horizontal' and all inclusive towards us.

 

[jeffu]

Conservative no doubt. Eby is a communist and, along with his party, needs to be flushed out the airlock. “Progressives” at the provincial and federal level have damn near ruined this country in the last 10 years.

 

[marsvolta]

can't wait to have the conservatives give an across the board regressive tax rate cut and then re-introduce health care premiums, essentially eliminating any tax cut for working people. maybe we'll just get a head tax and be done with all the confusion!

i'm reminded that when the provincial liberals got in last time they promised the rate cut before the election and then announced that they had to jack the hell out of health care premiums to pay for it after the election. i simply stopped paying health care premiums. now, so many years later... that debt is almost gone as the six year statue of limitations on debt has eaten away at it.