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freakydeaky1

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Do you remember AltaVista search engine in the late 90's ? There was no such thing as Google at that time
Oh yeah, I was on computers from the late 80s and went into computer animation as a result, so was on the front lines for the early internet years on SGI/ UNIX. Shit was bonkers for a while there. Y2K lol !

Trynna bring it back around to the original topic - strong work ethics and wise financial planning has taken a back seat to the ā€œbecome an influencerā€ and/or cryptocurrency get rich quick schemes.
 
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I don't spend money on stupid shit.
I wonder if the young studs pulling girls out of the bar every other night or getting tinder hookups might not consider this hobby ā€œstupid shitā€ - I know if I was I might have that sentiment.

But I feel you, figure out your priorities and spend wisely…

I’m sure most providers are grateful for our business but wonder if deep down they low key think we are are fools… šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø
 
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After taking Finance ( Business admin ) courses way back, I started investing 25+ years ago. Stocks, real estate ( had a town home rental ) etfs etc....learned to buy, hold, profit take and sell when needed. Fast forward now in my late 50's. No debt, and I've accumulated a decent amount for myself. There's no concern in my bubble at this satge of the game.

Now, I've had plenty of lady relationships along the way including " live in " ones too, but, I wasn't fortunate to be married and have kids during my journey. So, since that wasn't in the cards for me. Investing was my hobby and avenue up until now.

With that said, I never take money over people, but, this is where I now stand in my life. It would be nice to share things with someone but, like they say--- it is what it is. It's been quite a while since I've participated in this activity now. I need to be " re-trained " here in the sex dept, per say :eek:

PS - I have zero bad habits too, btw. (y) Well grounded.
 

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Why do you need this in west coast climate ?
I’m on the prairies my friend. Flat, cold and snowy. But I prefer my excitement to happen indoors :)
 
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They should be teaching us this in school instead of some useless bs.
THIS.
This is something that as far as I am concerned should be mandatory in every kids schooling. How to balance a cheque book. Fundamentals of day to day expensing, savings, basic investing and so on.
Sure there are those who are scraping by so hand to mouth is their norm, and some parents never got the memo so don't teach their kids how to eat for a starter let alone manage money. But at least give the kids a chance somewhere along the way on how to manage money.
But it was and is in BC high schools. I can vouch for the time from late 80's onwards, and my nephews for the current year. It was mandatory to take a personal finance class that explained what RRSP's, savings accounts, tax forms, credit cards, interest rates, mortgages, wills, legal liability, etc,. There was even a class after it for people who wanted to start their own business. Beyond the legal and financial stuff, there were courses in home economics that taught household budgeting, price comparisons, nutritional management. Even how to sew a button. If people paid attention in class, or skipped them altogether is another question.

Side note, I think it's been about a decade since I wrote a cheque. Not even sure where my cheque book is...
 
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perhaps we could create a "sound financial tips" forum / thread for the young folks on here who desire some advice.
i suppose it could be disastrous so would need some serious forewarnings and liability precautions around risk/reward vs expendable income.
i bet i will be notified shortly why its a terrible idea, by the MODS or others... just thinking out loud and wanting to give back to the young gents in this hobby much earlier than i ever considered taking it up.
 
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I wouldn't advise this tbh. There's plenty of information online ( Google and you-tube) . Watch financial market channels, research online for your needs or simply go see a financial advisor at your bank, or brokerage firm. If one is serious.... the answers are available everywhere. I took courses and then went through a few financial advisors until I found one that I related with. I still do plenty on my own.


perhaps we could create a "sound financial tips" forum / thread for the young folks on here who desire some advice.
i suppose it could be disastrous so would need some serious forewarnings and liability precautions around risk/reward vs expendable income.
i bet i will be notified shortly why its a terrible idea, but the MODS or others... just thinking out loud and wanting to give back to the young gents in this hobby much earlier than i ever considered taking it up.
 

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perhaps we could create a "sound financial tips" forum / thread for the young folks on here who desire some advice.
i suppose it could be disastrous so would need some serious forewarnings and liability precautions around risk/reward vs expendable income.
i bet i will be notified shortly why its a terrible idea, but the MODS or others... just thinking out loud and wanting to give back to the young gents in this hobby much earlier than i ever considered taking it up.
YouTube has been recommending this channel called "financial audit" with this high pitched voiced host, where he rips into the financially irresponsible youth (under 30). As cringy as it is, it's eye opening how people spend their money, and good lessons if anyone actually pays attention.
 
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Cut back on dog food......
 
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freakydeaky1

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I wouldn't advise this tbh. There's plenty of information online ( Google and you-tube) . Watch financial market channels, research online for your needs or simply go see a financial advisor at your bank, or brokerage firm. If one is serious.... the answers are available everywhere. I took courses and then went through a few financial advisors until I found one that I related with. I still do plenty on my own.
yeah I figured … I don’t trust a doggone thing I see on the internet so that wouldn’t be for me, but how could someone trust a bloke on here who they don’t know at all either. Just make sure the link you click doesn’t say ā€œsponseredā€ which means you have to go about half way down the page.

I think opening a bank account or retirement account and using their retirement planning services would be safest.

How does one freeze their credit in Canada? In the US I had to do it on Experion + TransUnion + Equifax, but being newish here I’ve not had the chance to do it, and actually have no idea how Canada does credit scoring etc. I guess I can do my own research but thought someone might save me the time….if so inclined ….
 

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I think us older dudes maybe got more of this kind of tough love financial education from our parents than current generations in their 20s and 30s
My dad was a uni professor in Scotland but lived in a shitty two room apartment with wife and kids. Shitty food, bathroom down the hall, one bath a week, nobody had a car. Postwar Britain was fucking horrible. I never wanted to go back to that.
 

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I think us older dudes maybe got more of this kind of tough love financial education from our parents than current generations in their 20s and 30s.

Maybe it was just cuz they weren’t wealthy but [insert crotchety old man grumbling voice ā€œwhen I was your ageā€¦ā€] I had my first job at 12 picking blueberries on a farm I had to ride my bike 5 miles to at 6 am (I grew up in the sticks on the east coast US mind you) for 10 cents a pint just so I could get money to play video games at the local gas and go, and buy candy, but they made me earn every penny for whatever I wanted to buy, including first car, insurance, the whole nine yards. But I also couldn’t eat anything out of the cupboard without permission, so pretty strict upbringing. But making me learn to earn my own way and driving home the importance of working/earning/saving for things i wanted and really drilling into me the importance of paying my bills early, if not on time, was hugely beneficial later in that I had that good habit instilled in me.

I don’t think I even got a credit card until I was in my mid 20s because I didn’t want to spend money I didn’t have.

Being wise about spending was a result and smart + gradual investing came through osmosis once I started my career and overheard other colleagues talking about it, but having a 401K plan thru my employer was a shove in the right direction.

I don’t know how impactful schooling will be regarding financial security and planning when there aren’t real consequences to your inability to follow some basic guidelines, but I’m sure the better students would benefit.

Times are different now, cell phones weren’t widespread until I was in my late 20s and the internet wasn’t it is today, and there was no such thing as a cell phone. Every internet search in the early days got you 100 porn sites before the real result you were looking for šŸ˜‚

Social media culture and instagram / you tube influence mentality has kids thinking in strange ways - and I think a lot parents provide a lot more financial support under the guise of mental health + wellness for their children and so they never have to figure it out until very late in life (coming from a divorcee with no kids who is just speculating here based on what I see with my brother and his kids).

My mom also had me prepping dinner after school while she was at work and doing ironing and laundry and shit like that, so that wasn’t fun, but I can take good care of myself now. I remember this one kid in high school (only child) who had the complete opposite treatment from his mom and I was shocked at how incompetent he was about what I assumed all kids knew how to do, basic stuff. But he was waaaay better at soccer than me…..so a fair trade i suppose for him.
So out of touch with reality.
whatever makes you feel better about yourself bud.
 

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Not directed at me -- all good but I 100% disagree with that philosophy. Eating healthy, being sober and not relying on pain medications with side effects is no way to live either. Sure we're all get old but if I, or anyone else can sway from that avenue once they passed the point on no return. I'm pretty sure they all would.

Growing up, I had my share of witnessing my close ones who didn't have a care in the world in living healthy and man, some paid for it in many ways.

The ole saying is.... you can get away with it until it happens to you. I'd rather take the safe route.

Not reflection on you, but when I saw that my mind brought up a quote: "Clean living is less fun, and you wind up feeling stupid when you still die."
 

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As an addition to all this, those of us in the legacy age range more than likely were raised by depression era parents where debt was the root of all evil and having a mortgage was this side of being in the devil's pocket. The one thing that sure stuck with me, was thou shalt not spend money on stupid shit ... ever.

Now decades later I guess I can spend the interest on what I didn't spend coming up through all various life cycles along the way.

As long as I take the divorces out of the equation.
 

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My dad was a uni professor in Scotland but lived in a shitty two room apartment with wife and kids. Shitty food, bathroom down the hall, one bath a week, nobody had a car. Postwar Britain was fucking horrible. I never wanted to go back to that.
I had a British mum + Yank step dad and we were growing up in the US in the mid 70s - mid 80s and they still made us share the bath water until we were old enough to realize how fucking gross that was.
 
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