honesty and sincerity of SP

[shak]

Now, this has been brought up a number of times before. But I am not talking about how SP advertises themselve this time. I am just curious how you guys feel about SPs that are not being honest/sincere during the session.

For instance, if the girl tells you that she doesnt smoke but somehow you find out that she smokes or that she tells you she get tested(STD) regularily but you know she doesnt. How would you feel about it? I am not talking about the service, lets just suppose the service is superb.

I have this mixed feeling, I understand that sometimes SPs have to lie, simply just to make the session better. For instance some ppl asks the SP questions like "hey is my dick big ?", most of the gals would probably answer in a way that makes the guy happy. Moreover, some SPs would tell you that you are good looking/good in bed, but you know where you stand in reality.

Most of the girls that I have seen, when they first see me, they try to make some guesses and say things that would make me happy. I am curious what people think about this. Would you prefer the girl being totally honest/sincere or you rather have the girl to say things that you want to hear? Afterall, you are paying to have a good time.

 

[hitrack]

First off let me say IMO from a SP's point of view I would carefully screen what I say unless I couldn't give two fukks about repeat customers. Second the SP world and the real world run on bull shit. People have gotten jobs and SP's have gotten tricks because they know how to talk; aka: bullshit very well.

It's also been my experience that when your no where near the topic and the girl/SP actually has something nice to say out of the blue take it as a genuine compliment as she didn't have to say fukk all in the first place. Up to you whether you take it with a grain of salt or not.

 

[Lefty]

honesty

I agree that I wish SP advertising was closer to honest. Especially re age, size, photos, cup size etc.
If you are 29, don't claim to be 22. If you are a smoking hotty at 40 (VV for example), be proud of it.
Not all men are looking for a young blonde with a hard C+ body. OK, that may not be entirely true. What I meant was that's not the only type of women wanted.
The most amazing thing for me about the female form is the absolute variety of beauty. There are so many fantastic variables and each has something great about them.
Be true to yourself and you are more likely to get clients that will get what they are looking for and therefore be happy.

 

[Very Veronica]

Thanks Lefty!
Now for my 2 cents on this subject...let's face it, a lot girls in this industry belong on a therapists couch, not on a bed and their insecurities manifest themselves in them trying to conform to a stereotype. Some guys don't mind, some do...but i think everyone knows that this industry is full of crazy girls and guys and less than honest agencies.
It's a shame cuz it doesn't have to be that way imho...i almost feel guilty that i get away with slamming guys with one hand and reeling them in on the next (but not really, hehe)...hitrack excepted of course.

 

[logsplitter]

I have found some ladies to be brutally honest. I usually find such honesty in a SP, unless personally insulting, is a great reason to repeat. If she tickles my ears I can tell fairly quickly because there usually is not just one lie but a few. Once you know that you have been lied to you begin to not believe/question anything/everything and then there is not a lot left except the raw sex part.

Also with a lady that you make into a regular you can tell just as much about them by what they don't tell you/or say than what they do tell you particularly in the voluntary open discussion time where you have not focused the conversation in any particular way.

 

[Avery]

gotta be my english skin

annalee

LOL!! Nothing like a good in-joke!

 

[Sunset]

Perfect vs. Imperfect and Honesty

Our ability to be real "honest" is to a large extent related to what we believe is our imperfections. We’re in a constant struggle to separate our reality from the ideal. As humans we see our imperfections as something we must hide, preventing us from being fully honest.

During my encounters with women, in this biz or otherwise, I go out of my way to create an environment that is open enough for them to share their all, including their imperfections. So, about all of my encounters have been with women that have been honest with me. In an intimate encounter I try to always be open with my real spirit and emotions which opens the door for a woman to be honest with me. And, I must admit most of my encounters have been the bomb. Some better than others, about 90% spectacular and about 9% out of this stratosphere.

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

being an SP is difficult

you have many shoes to fill & you are constantly being judged & put under the microscope about everything you do & how you do it.
When I first started I was coached on how to lie, yes, about age, breast size, personal life, etc.... I lied about my age at first by 5 years. I can't believe how good some chics are at a fantasy persona.

I always vowed I would try to be as real as possible in this industry & not tell ppl what they want to hear, but the truth. IMO I have been too open & honest. I still say "if you ask, be prepared for the honest answer"


And it really bothers me when I compliment a gent about something & he replies that I am feeding him a line. Or doesn't believe I can actually orgasm LOL fool!! I think I am one of the most sincere SPs out there & there is no shortage of hurdles for being so.

 

[lustingasians]

Honesty

And it really bothers me when I compliment a gent about something & he replies that I am feeding him a line. Or doesn't believe I can actually orgasm LOL fool!! I think I am one of the most sincere SPs out there & there is no shortage of hurdles for being so.

Well, Gina, you are in a very small minority. IMHO, most SPs tell gents what they want to hear (about their bodies, about their "skills", etc.) and what they want to hear is almost always not the truth. Some of the "best" SPs out there (based on their reviews of "attitude" and "service", for example), are merely those who are the best actresses and those best able to manipulate us. They know what we want to hear and what will make us come back to them!

 

[Massagegirl]

Or doesn't believe I can actually orgasm LOL fool!!

I had someone stop in the middle a long time ago and accuse me of faking, which I wasn't. (It killed the mood for sure.) It made me wonder if some guys have ever seen a real one....?

And you are definately too honest Gina! Lol.

Some of the "best" SPs out there (based on their reviews of "attitude" and "service", for example), are merely those who are the best actresses and those best able to manipulate us.

Have you ever heard the saying "Life is an act"? Cuz it makes total sense and explains those with mental problems who don't leave the house cuz they don't know how to "act" in public. It's something they lack that the rest of us have, the ability to act. It's also why they say "if you think you are sexy, then you are", it's about what you project. You project what you feel inside unless you can act something else. How many times have we all been angry then had to smile and act like we weren't? Life is also like a poker game, you don't want to show your hand until the right time but that's another story.

To answer your question LFA, a lot of us, like Gina and myself, don't bother to lie. It is easy enough to find something nice to say, everyone has a good quality, what's wrong with complimenting it? I understand many girls may tell outrageous lies.

 

[shak]

First off let me say IMO from a SP's point of view I would carefully screen what I say unless I couldn't give two fukks about repeat customers.

Yes, I agree with you. However; the problem is that SP sees WAY more clients than the number of girls we see. Sometimes, they dont remember what lies they have said to you. For example, I have had one girl said to me that she never worked in the MPs before and the next time I see her, she tells me that she worked in a couple MPs before but didnt like it.

 

[Sunset]

Fantasies are Honest

Please keep in mind that we have to protect our identity in the "real" world as well. Especially for those of us that work in the business world.

I enjoy taking part on this board and to do so comfortably i have to twist the facts a bit to get my point across yet protect my identity. For example, all personal details i share are just slightly skewed. For example if i say i have three sisters in real life i may have only two. that goes for all personal info i share.

We do not have the luxury of using being anonymous, you always know where to find us. Outright lying is wrong if it is misrepresentation. But in this business, james bond as it is, you must expect some shadows behind all that is said.

Julia,

I agree with you. It is not lying if someone asks for a school girl fantasy, you provide it but you're 32 years old. It is not a lie if someone wants a romantic fantasy and you provide but you're not engaged or married to him. Those are fantasies and nothing more. This business for better or worse is based on fantasies being played out. Yes my fellow Pooner, saying they like you, they had an "O", you have a big cock, etc. is part of the fantasy and is not dishonest.

On the other hand, if you say you will be at appointment at 6PM and you do a NO SHOW, you lied and were dishonest. If you say the fee is $200 for all inclusive but after you've collected the money you state the session is only for your time and everything else is extra, that is a dishonest scam. You get the picture.

This biz is all about fantasy which is good. Sometimes it can be about a scam or a rip off which is bad. We know the difference.

Girls who do not disclose their age, real name, real feelings, complete/total looks are moot points. If she at some point decides to share real things with you, great, and so much the better. But, by her not disclosing those items is not dishonest.

 

[lustingasians]

Julia,

Yes my fellow Pooner, saying they like you, they had an "O", you have a big cock, etc. is part of the fantasy and is not dishonest.

Saying they like you when they don't is not dishonest? What dictionary are you using?

 

[Storm]

Don't Ask Don't Tell

There's a fine line between honesty, fantasy and flat out lie in this business. I think Jack said it best "You can't handle the truth!" - A Few Good Men

 

[Cinnamon Girl]

between two consenting adults

if privacy & discretion & trust were honored by both adults, none of us would have to worry about sharing personal info. Its quite funny talking about honesty & pooning when the very backbone of this biz is ribbed with married men & secretive SPs.