HIV Test

[georgebushmoron]

so what was the point of his original post?

Maybe he's looking for courage to face the inevitable? Maybe he's looking for pointers?

I tell ya, if I was HIV+, I'd be posting my own requiem on here. I'd tell all... I'd give it all up cuz I think I'd be on the last train to the forever darkness.

 

[poorman]

I'm posting this here b/c I'm basically fucking scared. My anxiety level is at an all time high right now. And yeah, before I even participated in this hobby I understood the risks. I also get tested regularly. Having said that, when I'm out there picking up a SW my little head does the thinking for me.

I went to get retested today. The nurse told me the last time I was there one of the protein test results came back positive. She pointed out the tests are not perfect so my anxiety level is very likely very high right now as I didn't come back for the retest for quite a long time. The test results ususally take 8 days to get back to the clinic but she was nice enough to rush the results for me so I will have them in 5 days.

As stated in my original test, I have not partcipated in any sexual activities since receiving my first test results. So it's not like I'm putting anyone's life in jeopardy.

 

[sonoman]

You still have a life to live and it can be a really good one, no matter what happens, don't forget that ever!!

Hatrick: Right on.

Wow. What a downer fuckin' thread.
And your point of posting it here is what?
Sympathy?
Ya pooned.
Warning others?
They know.
Life's a crapshoot dude.
Ya roll the dice
and take your chances.
Unfortunately,
you rolled boxcars.

Fuzzy: You're sick.

 

[Juggy]

So your HIV positive, doesn't mean you can't have sex with SW or SP's anymore. Wear a condom!!! Happy pooning.

 

[xoxo Amie]

Not Funny

So your HIV positive, doesn't mean you can't have sex with SW or SP's anymore. Wear a condom!!! Happy pooning.

Stop right there!!! That's a big NO NO, legally and morally.

It's called Criminal Transmission of HIV.

Several Canadian courts have ruled that people who are not informed that a sexual partner is HIV-positive cannot truly give consent to sex.

 

[TotallyTouchin]

Thanks Amie!

Yeah. I think...no...I KNOW the responsible thing for a person knowingly infected with a transmittable disease should tell their partner....SP or otherwise.

Would the men like it if the ladies out here went around KNOWING their positive status and not informing them? It is irresponsible. If you plan to sleep with someone, you should FOR SURE tell them of your status. Sure I could be speaking of a perfect world but I think it is a very important issue.

THEN the person can make an informed decision whether or not they are willing to take the risk of being with you. It sounds as though however in this case the gentlemen has not slept with an SP or SW since his positive diagnosis so that is good.

Anyone who is positive has the OBLIGATION morally and legally to inform their partner.....reckless endangerment of another person's health is just WRONG.

 

[athaire]

So your HIV positive, doesn't mean you can't have sex with SW or SP's anymore. Wear a condom!!! Happy pooning.

WTF.......no, not cool. I don't want to catch HIV because some dumbass decided it was okay to bang all the sp's in Van/Vic without anyone knowing and pass it on. Thats one of the most retarded things I've seen in awhile. And to suggest it if you are partaking in the hobby is kinda weird, I mean what kind of morals do you have? Are you not worried about your own health? The one thing I've noticed is that this is a small community of people and we all will be in contact at one time or another. I saw 2 sp's, and they each saw 2 guys, and they each saw 2sp's and so on.

 

[dr_pepper]

WTF.......no, not cool. I don't want to catch HIV because some dumbass decided it was okay to bang all the sp's in Van/Vic without anyone knowing and pass it on. Thats one of the most retarded things I've seen in awhile. And to suggest it if you are partaking in the hobby is kinda weird, I mean what kind of morals do you have? Are you not worried about your own health? The one thing I've noticed is that this is a small community of people and we all will be in contact at one time or another. I saw 2 sp's, and they each saw 2 guys, and they each saw 2sp's and so on.

I remember in college some guy coming around to talk to us about HIV/AIDS etc. Had alot of respect for the guy and what he'd been through until close to the end of his presentation when someone asked how life without sex was. His response was that he still has sex all the time, simply with a condom. Needless to say we were all kind of shocked. We asked him if he told his partners and he replied that no he didn't. His reply was something like "hey i want to get laid too and if i told someone i'd never get any". I honestly couldn't believe it but he was serious. Pretty much wrote him off as a guest speaker - he was never invited back again. It was pretty easy to figure out he was just a selfish @sshole and was pretty easy to figure out he contracted it in the first place by only thinking of himself with one head.

If you have HIV and tell someone and they chose to have sex with you anyway then good for you. But to not tell someone........ the chances are very slim of a condom failing, but they are still there. How could you live with yourself. It's like playing russian roulette, but your hold the gun to their head.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

...The test results ususally take 8 days to get back to the clinic but she was nice enough to rush the results for me so I will have them in 5 days.

As stated in my original test, I have not partcipated in any sexual activities since receiving my first test results. So it's not like I'm putting anyone's life in jeopardy.

Unless you live somewhere outside of BC or are a patient to one of the few private health clinics, how do you get results for HIV testing so quickly when it usually takes 2 weeks, except private clinics, to be sent to one of two diagnostic centres to get a result.

Assuming you had sex before you started having sex with professionals there is a good possibility you contracted the virus from one of your partners before pooning. And if that is the case, then it was you that put the professionals at increased risk with the BBBJ possibly and unknowingly infecting the "pros" and the chain of exchange goes on from there.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

I've always thought that anyone testing HIV positive should have a manditory genital tattoo.

And while we're at it we should put yellow stars on the lapels of suspected Jews and pink stars for the homosexuals.

Persecution and stigmatization, both stemming from ignorance isn't the answer, education is.


It's stupid to assume that as a Service Provider all the clients I have entertained were given a clean bill of health. But by practising safer sex, I've stopped the opportunity for an infection to invade my body and possibly transmitting to the clients and for them to transmit it to someone else.

Like I said, the medical community is not always consistent. Aside from that, you don't know his medical history as a nurse might. You also don't know the circumstances of the test and how it was reported to him...With anyone who claims they tested positive, it should be treated as the truth because the matter is so serious it can not be treated otherwise.

I absolutely agree. This is the same instance where someone claims a positive result for a STI and people dissect it looking for the root of truth only for the possibility that they can carry on without consequence. It's denial really.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

What concerns me is that reading some of your previous posts, you have mentioned: "I probably saw about 5 SP's since getting busted by the cops. Whenever i go on perb, the temptation is always there. But I'll have to say seeing 5 SP's in 2 years is a lot better than what I use to do. I use to blow 2 browns on kingsway SW each night."

Yet in your original post in this thread you say you have only seen SW's. Which is it? Obviously you know the difference between the 2...so it begs to be mentioned...have you seen SP's as well? And if so/ why are you lying or omitting that fact?

I hope your tests results come back negative.

I don't think it makes a difference. Unsafe sex with whomever is still unsafe sex.

 

[Creole Lady Marmalade]

Wow, I can't believe you actually said that.

Umm yes it does make a difference....

Would you be saying that if you'd seen him for FS?

It makes a HUGE difference.

What difference is there between SW and SP aside from where they do their advertising?
The point I'm trying to make, very poorly, is that you don't know your clients medical history or pooning history. Have you been able to screen a client from booking an appointment with you after seeing a SW? And if you did by chance ask if they have had relations with a SW, how difficult is it for them to lie?

Do you know your clients medical history?

There is without a doubt, that every sex trade worker even you Avarice, has seen and engaged in sexual relations with a client that was infected at the time with a STI even if the client knew about it or not. To think otherwise is just plain stupid. The only reason why you or any other SP/SW has a clean bill of health is because you and they protected yourselves. Unless you are chained at the hip with the client, you have know idea where they dipped their penis. You know full well how this industry operates and the cycle it spins. Don't think for a moment that you and I hadn't slept together.

Do you know your clients medical history? *And the SPs answer with a resounding NO.*

 

[KingLeer]

I might be missing something here. If he tested positive for HIV, doesn't the medical facility have an obligation to refer the file to the community health office for follow up? They certainly do that if you test positive for any sexually transmitted disease. At the least, wouldnt they want to know his previous sexual contacts so that they can be approached and ask to be tested?

 

[Sonny]

IMO, there's a real temptation danger doing bbbj with SWs.

Whereas SPs or MPs who do bbbj are unlikely to do bbfs, that is not so much the case with SWs. So a pooner who really enjoys bbbj ,and does only SWs to keep it on the cheap, may be tempted to ask for bbfs for a few extra bucks, and the SW, particularly if low or even mid-track with a drug dependency, may say okay and do the deed.

Although there may be a SP or MP who may do bbfs for extra, the occurences are much less likely than with a SW. So there is a real temptation with such SWs to engage in unsafe fs and to expose oneself to a higher risk of STDs.

I am NOT saying that poorman engaged in bbfs with his SWs. His post does not say his fs was bb, so I take it that it was covered. I just think it's worthwhile cautioning pooners who do SWs to be cautious of the temptation.

 

[sirlickheralot]

I've always thought that anyone testing HIV positive should have a manditory genital tattoo.

Of course, it will NEVER happen, but it's funny to watch the 'lefties' try to come up with reasons why it shouldn't.

Even people who have been convicted of illegal transmission of the disease have their names protected by the privacy laws. Way to go lefties!

So you don't think once people hear that they'll be forcibly tatooed if they test positive, it might be a rather major deterent to getting tested. Let's discourage people from getting tested, sounds like a terrific way of dealing with this disease.

 

[sonoman]

I've always thought that anyone testing HIV positive should have a manditory genital tattoo.

Of course, it will NEVER happen, but it's funny to watch the 'lefties' try to come up with reasons why it shouldn't.

Even people who have been convicted of illegal transmission of the disease have their names protected by the privacy laws. Way to go lefties!

That's because there is still too much ignorance surrounding HIV transmission and far too many homophobes who assume that anyone with HIV must have done something to 'deserve' it.

 

[TotallyTouchin]

This is true!

I do know a few people that worked for the WRHA. They told me that if you have tested positive for any of the reportable STDs (including HIV) that if you do not go back to the clinic for follow up, they can get a court order to make you get treatment. Because it is a communicable disease and by not getting treatment you are probably going to infect others.

I also know health care professionals and all say that it becomes a very intense process when a person is diagnosed positively with a transmitable disease...even an STI such as Gonnereha or however you spell it.

They insist upon you contacting the people with whom you have had sexual contact with and as well they should.

I'm sure they don't just go "Yeah, you've tested postive for HIV but don't worry, take a few monthes, relax, think about it and come back later if you feel like it and in the mean time HAPPY POONING!"

I also happen to know from having being personally tested that they ask you what your risk factors are and if you are considered "high risk". Now assuming that he was being honest with the people with whom he was tested, he would have said that he sees SWs mainly and SPs and also has outside intercourse.

In this case, although this is a point we COULD contend as us ladies know that we are tested frequently and you are very likely to contract a disease from a drunk club chickie just as much if not MORE than an SP who is regularly tested, they would have considered him high risk. There is NO WAY that the medical community would have allowed a high risk individual to get away with a possible false positive. I just don't buy that.

I know this because when I get tested I am considered "high risk" because of what I do for a profession. They are nice but they always tell me that if I ever DO test positive for HIV it is my imparitive DUTY under the law to STOP working and also contact my partners. He would have been told to get retested like in a week and to stop his activities unless he informed any of his partners of his status...period. Otherwise, this is reckless endangerment.

Testing positive for HIV is not taken lightly and there are legal ramifications for both males, females and females in this buisness especially. Something in this story just simply does not add up.

And as far as what CLM had to say, yes, its like the "6 degrees from Kevin Bacon"....we all share a common playground. It would be nice if more people were more vigilant about their testing etc. With 1/3 the population infected with the herpes virus, how many people, for example, do you think you may have slept with who have it? Its food for thought and a pretty important thought at that.

So, best of luck Poorman, but I respectfully disagree. NO happy or unhappy pooning until the final test results are in. Let's attempt to keep our playground as safe as we can although, agreed, it will never be perfect or safe 100%.

 

[sonoman]

I also know health care professionals and all say that it becomes a very intense process when a person is diagnosed positively with a transmitable disease.

I'm sure they don't just go "Yeah, you've tested postive for HIV but don't worry, take a few monthes, relax, think about it and come back later if you feel like it and in the mean time HAPPY POONING!"

Testing positive for HIV is not taken lightly and there are legal ramifications for both males, females and females in this buisness especially. Something in this story just simply does not add up.

Yeah... I don't want to be disrespectful but I thought the same after reading the original post.

I've gone through the testing process in 2 different provinces myself and each time it has involved significant consultation/questioning, as well as having to provide a specific plan of action should the test come back positive - all before even having blood drawn.

And, in Ontario at least, only an actual MD is allowed access to test results - not nurses.

 

[TotallyTouchin]

I am not trying to stir shit up but....

I can usually tell when people have been tested before too Sonoman. They don't know the rigorous protocol that goes on when you do come in for the test.

When you go through that process, you are right. It is alot of questioning regarding things such as "do you have anal sex? are you having unprotected sex? are you in a monogamous relationship? do you have oral sex? Do you use condoms? All the time or just some of the time?" And on it goes.

All the power to him if he is just scared shitless but for real, I have been through this process a number of times and I'm telling you....they grill the CRAP out of you even BEFORE the results come in to see what kind of risk factors they are looking at. It is a process but a neccessary evil.

If this dude walked out with a positive diagnosis, never came back for monthes.....I mean....wow. That is very surprising. HIV testing is a MUST MUST MUST for all pooners and SPs and anyone who is sexually active these days. It sucks alot to have to be so blunt with them but it feels so so good when everything is all good. I would imagine that there would be an even larger process for someone who tested positive.

This story has a very strange ring to it for me at least being a person who is invested in my personal health and who gets HIV tests on a regular basis. I still do wish him the best though and hope he does get tested.

 

[poorman]

Well I did get tested for HIV the 2nd time around and I will find out the test results this Thursday. She said the last time I got tested one of the protein tests came back positive and suggested that b/c of this my anxiety level is probably very high right now. She told me that she isn't a counselor but suggested that I seek counselling as I am fairly young and I should not take all this pressure upon myself. No one else knows about my activities except the police from john school. The nurse is the person who ran the tests for me. There is only one doctor at that particular clinic.

I hope I did not catch HIV. I use condoms 100% of the time for fs. And I had 3 bbbj in my lifetime only. The couple of times that I got a bbbj I didn't even ask for it. After giving the SW digits, she just did the bbbj and I was surprised too. The last bbbj I had I did ask for it. You guys don't have to believe my story, but this is what happened and I'm just telling you as it is.