High School Bans Canada Goose and Moncler Jackets To Protect Poorer Students

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High school can be tough for anyone, and students from poor backgrounds have the added anxiety of struggling to keep up with their wealthier peers when it comes to clothes and accessories.

A high school in northwestern England is attempting to level the playing field for disadvantaged students by banning expensive Canada Goose and Moncler coats.

In a letter to parents at the beginning of November, the headteacher of Woodchurch High School in Birkenhead explained that the ban was coming in after Christmas as the school was “mindful that some young people put pressure on their parents to purchase expensive items of clothing.”

“These coats cause a lot of inequality between our pupils,” headteacher Rebekah Phillips told CNN. “They stigmatize students and parents who are less well off and struggle financially.”

The blacklisted coats sell for as much as $1,200 — a cost many parents will struggle to afford. “There has been feedback from children, who say ‘Gosh, that is our rent for the month,'” Phillips said.

She said her attempt to “poverty-proof” the school, which has students between the ages of 11 and 16, has been well-received by parents.

Phillips added that a former student wrote to her praising the move and saying that school should not be a place where students’ “economic background is rubbed in their faces and distracts them from learning.”

Parent Andy Treanor, who is a civil servant, said the ban “did not matter” to him as “he would not spend that much on a coat” for his daughter anyway.

Around 46% of the 1,427-strong student body comes from a disadvantaged background and the school has introduced other measures to prevent social inequality from affecting children’s performance.

Two years ago, it introduced a compulsory school bag to reduce costs, after parents complained that their children were demanding branded rucksacks. The school has also cut down non-uniform days — days when students can wear their own choice of clothes to school — to once a year, after complaints of children “being put down” for the clothes they wore, the headteacher added.

In line with a growing movement
The school also provides free sanitary products to students, a measure put in place after the headteacher noticed a drop in girls’ attendance at certain times of the month.

The ban on expensive coats is in line with a growing movement in British schools to protect poorer students. Initiatives have included banning expensive pencil cases and discouraging primary school teachers from asking students what they did on the weekend, so children whose families couldn’t afford to do anything wouldn’t feel embarrassed.

Campaigners say these initiatives have led to better school attendance by poorer children and improved the behavior of all students by tackling the forms of bullying associated with inequality.

“Poverty-proofing enables schools to identify and overcome the barriers to learning that children and young people from families with less financial resources face,” Jeremy Cripps, Chief Executive of Children North East, a nonprofit organization that provides poverty-proofing audits for schools, said in a statement to CNN.

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haigum141

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What a joke. Western culture is a capitalistic society.

People can do whatever they want with their money, including flashing it by buying expensive jackets for their kids. That’s capitalism. It’s a free market, if you can’t keep up, the fault is noone but yours. Accept responsibility and tell your kids straight up that you are too poor to afford it at the moment instead of having schools ban these jackets so other people are removed from enjoying the fruits of their labour.
 

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Instead of silly jacket bans, why not just teach children there's more to life than material items? A person's value has nothing to do wth the labels they are wearing.
 

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OH... I can see it now.... Ban any escort that charges more then $$ because there is a group of people that cannot afford them.

Priceless..... :third:
 

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What a weird world we live in now. I love being old as I can say stuff like. When I was growing up. If you wore such an expensive item at a school where the majority of the kids are poor. Well the great equalizer would be the poor kids would just jump your rich ass. Problem solved. The rich kid all of a sudden either moved schools or realized the pecking order.

Kids today are too soft.
 

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The Global version of the story includes a slightly different take:

While the school may have the right intention with these fixes, University of Victoria professor and child psychologist Dr. Jillian Roberts says she doesn’t agree with the approach.

Roberts told Global News she doesn’t believe in banning certain clothing.

“Each child should have the freedom to choose what they want to wear,” she said, noting there are obvious exceptions, such as clothing with racist or inappropriate slogans.

Rather than banning products, Roberts said there are more meaningful ways to deal with inequality.

“I think it would be a good idea for the school to talk about ways of helping their communities,” she said.

Roberts said one way schools can do that is by organizing a coat drive for the homeless or a holiday toy drive for children of low-income families.

The child psychologist noted that inequality can be a tough situation, but it can also be a learning opportunity for students.
 

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What a joke. Western culture is a capitalistic society.

People can do whatever they want with their money, including flashing it by buying expensive jackets for their kids. That’s capitalism. It’s a free market, if you can’t keep up, the fault is noone but yours. Accept responsibility and tell your kids straight up that you are too poor to afford it at the moment instead of having schools ban these jackets so other people are removed from enjoying the fruits of their labour.
:clap2: I agree 100%
 

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If people's biggest worry is what others are wearing, the poverty they claim to suffer from must not be that bad. Too much political correctness and concern about status is the problem here. How shallow. And another explanation for missing time at school "at that time of the month" is cramps!! When I was in high school I stayed at home too the first 1-2 days of my period each month because my cramps were so painful I couldn't concentrate in class and I felt like shit.

Banning expensive pencil cases?! good lord. The more I think about this, the more ridiculous it seems.

As long as these kids have shelter, decent food and clothing, who cares. As long as their basic needs are provided for they should be able to pay attention in class. And many people who walk around wearing expensive designer clothes and shoes are often in debt because of it. Appearances can be deceiving.
 

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The more I think about it, the more hypocritical this seems. If kids are old enough to be exposed to the sexual spectrum, they're old enough to be exposed to the income spectrum. The school should be encouraging tolerance and compassion, not shielding them from the world and pretending these things don't exist. This would be like dealing with bullying of LGBTQ kids by saying nobody is allowed to date anyone.
 

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Say hello to a bitter, tyrannical new world order, slowly creeping in while everyone is sleeping.
 

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Well even today I can't afford one of those jackets at 1200.00. If they were in the 200-250 range may be. I like the jackets looks and style (it reaches low on the legs and has a good hood). Even a down jacket?? (panagonia with goose or synthetic fill ) are too expensive. Put gore tex on the jacket and the minimum your are paying is 300.00.

I agree with the teacher, make it a poverty proof as possible. As for a capitalistic world; it is. Word of advice, don't rub it in their faces (the poor)... Cause thats why there is police, to protect the rich from the poor....

As an adult I can go out and get whatever clothes I want to. As a kid I did not, I got what my parents could afford. As an adult I can understand, as a kid I did not understand. That is the difference. Rich kids had cable, better clothes, better opportunities because their parents could afford to pay for them. Rich kids had trips to Hawaii during Christmas, went to Disneyland etc. They could afford to go to movies frequently to the theatres etc.

There was always that little essay what you did on your summer vacations... kinda makes you bitter and twisted but you don't know it.....

"As long as these kids have shelter, decent food and clothing, who cares. As long as their basic needs are provided for they should be able to pay attention in class. And many people who walk around wearing expensive designer clothes and shoes are often in debt because of it. Appearances can be deceiving."

Kids also need hope and goals and support too. And there is much more poor parents in debt, in order for the kids to have shelter, decent food and clothing....

After all, when you go to any stores these days; they are always asking you to donate to a charity.... I wonder why.....
 

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Well even today I can't afford one of those jackets at 1200.00. If they were in the 200-250 range may be. I like the jackets looks and style (it reaches low on the legs and has a good hood). Even a down jacket?? (panagonia with goose or synthetic fill ) are too expensive. Put gore tex on the jacket and the minimum your are paying is 300.00.

And why would you buy a Canada Goose jacket at $1,200 when you can buy a jacket of the same quality for half that price or less? I'm all for spending money if you have it but to me that is just throwing it away. Funny thing is Canada Goose jackets are made here in Winnipeg and employee pricing is $200. So you see them all over the place taking away any "social" value they might have here.
 

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I drove by the factory a minute ago! Support local manufacturers, better than buying crap from China.
Remember when we had a huge garment industry here? Places making all brands of jeans, Lee, Levis, GWG, Hilfiger, Britannia, all made here.
Silver Avenue is named after a clothier who made Silver jeans and many other brands.
Chip and Pepper and Mondetta made a lot of product here too.

Re the supposed "status" of a jacket: maybe someone bought it because they LIKED IT!
A jacket is a jacket. Canada Goose, Descente, Walmart, whatever don't worry about it.
They only become status symbols because people are idiots.
Appreciate the jacket, or shoes, or watch, or car, for its intrinsic merit, not its price tag.
Obsessing about price tags is pathetic. Stop putting a price on things and the problem goes away.
 

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I don't know what to think about this kind of thing but as a parent to a young adult (19 yo) daughter I can understand the difficulty some parents face now a days.
Sure, when I was a teen we all wanted certain things as well, like Adidas runners but the pressure was not as prevalent as it is now.
As much as we try at home to teach our kids about life and how the best things in life are not things, they are overwhelmed by messages from advertisers, social media and peers (who are more important to them than their parents) who tell them otherwise. Look at those f**king Kardashians. Their entire existence is built on greed and excess. That's what kids these days are dealing with.
I'm lucky that my daughter was never really influenced by a lot of that and actually likes to find deals and shop at thrift stores. She gets a thrill out of finding that deal.
 

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There are two separate cultures developing among kids.
One group sees right through all the marketing bullshit. They know damn well that the $250 basketball shoe is made by slave labour. They know the player getting the millions of dollars for endorsing Adidas/Nike/UnderArmour/Reebok is enabling that exploitation. All those shoes come out of the same factories.
The other group is sucked right in by the Kardashian BS and for them I have zero sympathy.

Like I said above, if you buy a Canada Goose jacket because you like it and it keeps you warm, fine.
If you buy it because you're a snob then you're really a douchebag.
 

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its a funny thread,

um how many people own expensive things, to show off, to the world or to themselves
on this board, there has been threads about high end watches and wheels.

I mean money is money your never going to fucking change that.
some people don't care some people do your not going to change that.

and at the end of the day its the people with the fucking money that controls things.

what did bill gate say when he addressed a high school or college graduation,
be nice to nerds they will control the world.

money is money, you
know when you have it know when you don't
only a very few don't fucking care,

Martin Luther King,
said freedom
is

freedom from fear of dying
and freedom from the desires of wealth
and very few people are free,
 

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I don't think that is a bad thing - especially not at an elementary level. All the schools I went to had similar policies, put in place because some kids were bullied for being poor, and later in Junior high and high school, some girls ended up working on the track just so they could afford specific styles. It was really to keep the focus on learning, and to a degree to protect the students.

School is only one part of a childs life. They still have more than enough places to wear their designer gear.
 
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