here's a tough one

[Ilovethemall]

OK kids - I am curious.

The Iranians are building nukes and telling various International organizations to get stuffed. Their leader stated last week that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Our PM (pussy minister) stated that Canada will not tolerate this and we will stand with peace loving nations against them - hahahahha the Iranians must be quaking at that one.

I am curious to hear from the anti-US, pacifist, no embargo crowd here - what do you suppose the solution to this is?

Ask them nicely not to nuke anyone....use harsh language at them?

 

[one track mind]

Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth

I hope they throw a couple nukes in the direction of the Vatican too while they're at it, and maybe one to the bible belt for good measure.

 

[Herb_The_Perb]

I hope they throw a couple nukes in the direction of the Vatican too while they're at it, and maybe one to the bible belt for good measure.

One would be sufficient for the Vatican.
The Bible Belt would require several hundred.

 

[Ilovethemall]

get 'em all

....careful, them bible belters might nuke them back!

Or worse, send a pack of Jehovah's witnesses at them!

 

[Guy smiley]

One would be sufficient for the Vatican.
The Bible Belt would require several hundred.

good point..maybe they should just let the lions loose on them instead.

 

[Ilovethemall]

not safe at all

Not so safe at all......would have to add the British Properties to the "to be nuked" list....just a little nuke...hardly a nuke at all....more like a really big old fashioned bomb....

The thing is, that is a war Canada just might join.

 

[luckydog71]

During the cold war Vancouver City Council passed a resolution that made Vancouver a "Nuclear Free Zone". They even posted signs on the entrances to the city declaring such.

This did work. Not once during the cold war did Vancouver ever suffer a nuclear attack. Maybe Mar tan could pass the same resolution, but for all of Canada.

You would need trilingual (is that a word) signs - English French and Arabic.

 

[Ilovethemall]

goddammit!

All that money on missile defense and all the US had to do was put up a sign??? Why oh why didn't they think of this earlier?

 

[georgebushmoron]

Any politician, Iranian, American, Canadian or otherwise, who stands at a public pulpit and declares such dramatic intentions is just posturing. No one would be so stupid as to say they are going to attack and reveal they have nuclear weapons if they are at all truly interested in aggression, thereby inviting the world to "take them out" or other punishments. To believe it at their word, you have to be STUPID.

The purpose of public posturing could be anything, but I surmise that the Iranian government is composed largely of conservative clerics who this politician must pander to in order to be able to wield greater power within the government..... "Hey Mubarak! Say something about Israel.... you know, kill the Jews! Yeah! That's a crowd pleaser! The old guys are gonna love it! You're gonna get a raise!"

Of course, other governments then also have to react. For to not react is to lose face on the international front. After all, what would the other countries think if the western governments don't automatically condemn such an action. Again, even the reaction is posturing.... "Hey Stanley, send out Press Release 09-424, the one you wrote up a decade ago. It'll work, just fill in the blanks. What's that Iranian guy's name again?"

You have to be a little wiser when you interpret international events and not fall prey to the fear mongering and bullshit.

 

[Ilovethemall]

thanks GBM

Gee thanks George, it isn't often I can be declared stupid and unwise in one post.

Now, being called an asshole and a right wing bastard - that I understand.

Of course it is at least partially posturing - but imagine the rant you woujld start on if your namesake came out and said that we need to nuke all the Arabic countries tomorrow as they are a blight on the earth and an offense to christianity. The board would go apeshit - which admitedly adds credence to your statement.

The some what nasty part is that don't you think at least part of the iranian gvt would like to do this....and since they are run by a bunch of mullahs and clerics, it is at least possible. Remember the cold war when we were all at the mercy of the most unstable person with a finger on the button.

Never underestimate stupid fanatics with shitloads of guns.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Of course you should never underestimate the stupid lengths a stupid person could go. For example, look at what my namesake did.

Of course, you should also be on guard when such statements are made. But you also have to look at the consequences of it from their point of view. They are somewhat rational too, even if they are stupid. From their point of view, they probably see that to actually do something like what they say they are going to do is to commit suicide because of the response from other countries, and they did not need other countries to make public condemnations to know that. They knew it already.

Looking at it historically, it has never been Iran who attacked Israel, but Israel attacking Iran many many many times.

 

[Ilovethemall]

no friend of

Believe me, I am no friend of Israel, frankly they seem like a perpetual pain in the ass.....but....assume for a moment that grand mullah whoever he is actually believes all the shit he preaches about dying and going to heaven etc. IF a person actually believes that, then they have nothing to lose by pushing the button - after all, they are doing god's work and will be rewarded for it in the afterlife.

So, yes, I am sure they knew they would be internationally condemned etc. but if we all just assume they are posturing and bluffing, then just maybe if they believe all of the above, they will take their shot. After all, getting rid of the Jewish state is a popular idea over there....and yes, again, it is partially posturing.

All I was saying is that it is funny that Canada would take such a tough stance since we really can't do jack shit about anything.

 

[BS Detector]

The Canadians are finally going to help America with the war on terrorism! They have pledged 6 of their biggest battleships, 900 ground troops and 12 fighter jets. After the American exchange rate they ended up with 2 Mounties, 1 canoe and a flying squirrel.

 

[dirtydan]

OK kids - I am curious.

The Iranians are building nukes and telling various International organizations to get stuffed. Their leader stated last week that Israel should be wiped off the face of the earth.

Does Israel have any nukes, if so how many?

Our PM (pussy minister) stated that Canada will not tolerate this and we will stand with peace loving nations against them - hahahahha the Iranians must be quaking at that one.

I am curious to hear from the anti-US, pacifist, no embargo crowd here - what do you suppose the solution to this is?

How do you reason that the PM is a pacifist? What do you expect Canada to do?

Ask them nicely not to nuke anyone....use harsh language at them?

Should Canada send the same message to every country with nuclear weapons? If so how many messages would then be required?

 

[georgebushmoron]

Now I am curious about this: when you say that historically it has been Israel attacking Iran, and Iran has never attacked Israel, are you talking actual military attacks or what? I wasn't aware that either side had ever really locked horns, except through proxies.

DU

What do you call jets that fly into your territory and take out military installations and blow up power plants? Israel has done that on a routine basis to Iran. The number of sorties is innumerable, and are not reported officially by Israel or the US, of course. Iran has never done that to Israel, but Iran does sponsor fanatics who strap bombs to themselves to kill others.

 

[georgebushmoron]

Does Israel have any nukes, if so how many?

I believe Israel is the only country with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles in the Middle East. No other country is allowed by the US and its allies to have them. No other country in the M.E. has any other nukes either.

 

[FuZzYknUckLeS]

I believe Israel is the only country with Intercontinental Ballistic Missiles in the Middle East. No other country is allowed by the US and its allies to have them. No other country in the M.E. has any other nukes either.

I believe that you are right. Not only do they have them, but apparently as many as 400 of the fuckers. Nobody knows for sure though, as they have never actually declared that they have any, so are not subject to IAEA inspections.
Do a Google on "Mordechai Vanunu"

 

[The Lizard King]

I don't give a rat's ass....the world is long overdue to be blown to smithereens anyway. Live everyday like it's your last because one of these days, it will be.

 

[Cali Scott]

OK kids - I am curious.
Our PM (pussy minister) stated that Canada will not tolerate this and we will stand with peace loving nations against them - hahahahha the Iranians must be quaking at that one.

So, that means that Canada is not going to standing with the U.S.?

 

[mick_eight]

The Canadians are finally going to help America with the war on terrorism! They have pledged 6 of their biggest battleships, 900 ground troops and 12 fighter jets. After the American exchange rate they ended up with 2 Mounties, 1 canoe and a flying squirrel.

Yah finally going to help... I guess when the trigger happy reserve pilots that killed 4 canadian troops in Afganistan was helping them out. You fukkin moron.
Also remember the canadian $ is undervalued compared to Yank which means we do more with less.

But that has always been the case. Just review what was done on D day with the numbers each had and then make another ignorant statement again or go tell the mothers of those troops how Canada didn't help out.