Hello Coach...

[Ms Erica Phoenix]

Peyton Alexander gets her wish, & the Canuck hire Travis Green!

Discuss..

edited: it seems I hallucinated the conversation where she told me he was her pick! Now back to the discussion...

 

[badbadboy]

Of all the names put out there as available, Travis Green would be the best choice IMO.

I've always thought Lindy Ruff would be a good choice but he has never done much since 2006 and is on the downward slope of a decent career.

I also liked Ted Nolan when he was a available years ago. He's probably too much of a individual for the likes of ownership and management here in Vancouver.

For all those who want the 'return of the Crow', give your head a shake. The guy only did well with a group of A & B level veterans in Colorado and Vancouver. He has done nothing of significance since leaving Vancouver.

 

[who]

Peyton Alexander gets her wish, & the Canuck hire Travis Green!

Discuss..

Not really she calls Green, Willie 2.0 don't think that is a Peyton stamp of approval.

 

[Stamkos]

I agree b3, better choice than all of the re-treads available but unfortunately it's going to be more of the same in Canuckland.

Doug Jarvis was retained as an assistant for a reason, it will be another few years of grind it out hockey, hope for great goaltending and maybe a couple of goals for a 2-1win, but more likely 4-1 loss with an empty netter. So phukking boring. I'd honestly rather lose 5-4.

Now, watch them lose in the lottery....

 

[ddcanz]

I'm just glad they finally made a decision-period- and their decision public- whether they seriously considered anyone else or not. Should be at a reasonable cost for TG's projected 3-4 year term. If he does well then resign him. If not, move on. Like pooning, there are no guarantees.
But just make a plan and stick to it, Trev. And if JB doesn't concur with your vision then can his ass as well.
We can groan all we want about whether or not TL should be "the guy" in charge here, but as the saying goes "ownership has it's privileges" and the Aquilinis write the cheques.
Let's just hope TL sticks to his guns with a youth movement- and perhaps utters "rebuild" maybe just once?

 

[zigzag6984]

Not sure why anyone would be excited for the hiring because he never developed anyone in the AHL. For all his flaws, at least Willie made the young guys better.

With that said, I'm sure Green has been told to let the kids play, so, seeing how he's cool with that, I hope he does well.

I was kind of hoping Crawford would have returned. He has a history of developing young players, including recently, some kid named Matthews.

 

[Stamkos]

Not sure why anyone would be excited for the hiring because he never developed anyone in the AHL. For all his flaws, at least Willie made the young guys better.

With that said, I'm sure Green has been told to let the kids play, so, seeing how he's cool with that, I hope he does well.

I was kind of hoping Crawford would have returned. He has a history of developing young players, including recently, some kid named Matthews.

With all due respect on your Crawford comment, he had little to do with Mathews other than providing him a place to play. Mathews was already a huge talent with superstar potential when he went to Switzerland. Getting a middle range draft pick and turning him into an NHler, that's developing a player. Crawford did a good job with the Sedins but again they were high draft picks and expected to become stars.

 

[zigzag6984]

With all due respect on your Crawford comment, he had little to do with Mathews other than providing him a place to play. Mathews was already a huge talent with superstar potential when he went to Switzerland. Getting a middle range draft pick and turning him into an NHler, that's developing a player. Crawford did a good job with the Sedins but again they were high draft picks and expected to become stars.

i didn't watch the games, but, scouts were saying Matthews became a more complete player by the end of the season versus at the beginning. He's defensively sound due to coaching, along with being great. Besides, he played a large role in the development of Naslund, Bertuzzi and Morrsion.

You also need to remember that a high end pick does not equal a sure thing. There are more Patrick Stefans, Cody Hodgsons, Cam Barkers, Gulbert Brules, Marek Zagrapans than there are success stories.

Carolina, Florida, Columbus, the Islanders, Oilers (that's changing now) and Leafs (might be changing) are typically bad teams that miss the playoffs on a consistent basis. They usually get top 5 picks. If it's as easy to develop high end picks like you claim, they'd be perennial powerhouses by now.

 

[ddcanz]

Not sure why anyone would be excited for the hiring because he never developed anyone in the AHL. For all his flaws, at least Willie made the young guys better.

With that said, I'm sure Green has been told to let the kids play, so, seeing how he's cool with that, I hope he does well.

I was kind of hoping Crawford would have returned. He has a history of developing young players, including recently, some kid named Matthews.

Never developing anyone in the AHL? You been drinking Tony Gallagher's Kool-Aid? I think the ingredients he was given don't add up to a successful mix.
I agree with your Willie comment- and also will say that Willie was not the only issue- his direction from above was convoluted at best.
Signing Eriksson was a most confusing move- not a move made when you are trying to rebuild. I like LE as a player, but a further $30M being badly spent in this scenario for the next 5 years is fucking retarded.
And I tend to agree with your MC comment as well and his impact on Austin in his year playing with men in the Swiss League. But being fair here, AM would have most likely developed under Dallas Eakins or Bill LaForge, too- he's just that fucking good.

 

[Peyton Alexander]

So.
Damn.
Salty.

 

[wintersurfer]

My first choice would of been Hitch as head coach and Green as assoc, he needs to learn how to run an NHL bench, if he wasn't ok with it then bring Hitch, Sutter or Ruff for 2-3 yrs

 

[zigzag6984]

Never developing anyone in the AHL? You been drinking Tony Gallagher's Kool-Aid?

Unless my car's in the shop or I'm on the road listening to the game, I don't listen to 1040 and I never read TG. Both are bad for your brain. Who did Green develop into a good player? Save Virtanen, the young core on the Canucks skipped Utica. Give me names of players he developed. I'll wait.

And I tend to agree with your MC comment as well and his impact on Austin in his year playing with men in the Swiss League. But being fair here, AM would have most likely developed under Dallas Eakins or Bill LaForge, too- he's just that fucking good.

Hey now, Dallas Eakins was a very good AHL coach who developed players and had lots of success with the Toronto Marlies. His tenure as Oilers coach was a dumpster fire, yes, but, like 40% of that was an organizational problem that they just figured out recently. (Who could have imagined having a veteran goalie and seasoned defensemen would have made a difference to a team that looked like a Junior A team playing against an NHL team in their own zone?)

 

[ddcanz]

Agreed- Gallagher is a dinosaur curmudgeon and has his head stuck in the sand way too often. So no one of consequence.
TG rambles on about this to the point of just "STFU already, Tony". TG also maintains that our draft picks have been decent and therefore there should be more for Travis to work with. I call BS- anyone of consequence is already on the team- Horvat, Hutton, Stecher, Tryamkin (gone), Boeser
Shinkaruk?- had a solid 2015 in Utica and then regressed- couldn't cut it in the NHL.He is still looking like a bust in the Flames' system- good thing we shipped him out- and got a great return in Granlund.
Virtanen? Until he can play solidly the jury is out. If he comes to camp and is a contributor then maybe put that back onto Travis. He's only 21.
McCann? In the NHL too soon, and now gone and in the Florida system. Could be another Hodgson. But again- 21 Y.O.
Subban? Who is he besides PK's brother? He seems to be playing OK, but where do you put him in the Canuck's lineup? He will get his chance in camp- if he excels then again, kudos to Travis.
The roster could be dissected and arguments made that A) Travis has developed nobody and B) That most of the draft picks blew from the beginning and it just doesn't matter.
The whole point was not basing excitement on his player development history.
If that is the main/only criteria that he should be judged on then that's your opinion.
Is he the best choice? Fucked if I know. And the choice of a new coach doesn't really excite me anyway.
But at least he is a choice NOW- which to me is what management needed to do rather than drag this on forever, waiting for potential candidates from defeated play-off teams.

Are you actually defending Eakins based upon management decisions? The poor bastard looked like frightened fawn in the middle of the road on so many nights. NHL coaching fodder.
Would seem that organizational problems you speak of, while not exactly the same here, could also have conspired to reflect on Travis.
Proof will be in the pudding.
Overall, I'm not holding my breath on most fronts with this organization......

 

[Peyton Alexander]

Let's all remember that WD was pretty accomplished AHL coach and that went no where.

I wanted Sheldon Keefe but Green won't be around long, if it's a sacrificial lamb thing to get this management team dumped so be it.