Has this happened to anyone else recently?

[Emily BP]

Let me get this straight. Now you are stating that I know this girl. Considering my contact with other providers is safety related only, I would love to hear who it is you are talking about as I would want to cease contact completely. I love that you refuse to say who tried to borrow cash from you, yet you have no problem throwing my ass under the bus for stating that the girls name needs to be shared so others can avoid her!! So you are now basically fucking my buisness due to someone else'e supposed actions with you. I do expect a pm stating who it is I know that tried scamming you out of cash cuz I dont socialize with other providers aside from these boards and if when a duo is booked.

If an service provider is telling you she is a aquaintance to me I have the right to know this info, seeing as I haven't gone out socially with a female in months. Do tell now that I've been dragged into this story. My opinion is still to out the provider unless you are simply bluffing to create problems her or now dare I say me! Seriously how I now involved in this? My stance has always and will always be safety for both pooner and sp. How you and some sp's relationship led into her asking you for a loan is anything to do with me is total b's and I'll be happy to hear who you claim it is.

I'm really tired of all these accusations and attempts to ruin my reputation. This shit is not what I expected when I became a provider. I have always stated that respect and safety are the important things in this industry. If you are not willing to tell me who it is that claims to be known to me then you are a fool who engages in gossip about sp's and It would be doubtful that the lady you speak of is in fact any sort of relationship to me other than through the boards for safety reasons. HOW DARE YOU!?

 

[Emily BP]

Wow that Emily is feisty I really have to see her one of these days. Message me if theres ever a sale on please. But first of all any guy who does this runs the risk of getting burned played or threatened it just goes with the hobby. Secondly this type of behaviour might cause less clients for her, but not anyone else these guys aren't going to quit because of the risk, they'll just find another sp. So really its not a threat to anyone's business except hers really. Also the 4 sps I see regularly are not experiencing a drought they have a huge influx of customers to the point where I have to book a week in advance to make it in with my schedule. I can guarantee their getting more than 2 guys a day at least 5.

Did you misread what I posted? Yeesh. You missed my customer appreciation sale. It was all last month. lol. It is sad when you guys feel that getting played, burned and scammed is part of this hobby. It shouldn't have to be, and increases the danger for yourselves and for us service providers to a point that I may may very well be ducking out in the near future, as I did not begin this journey with the impression I would have to be suspect to those I have offered services to. It isn't worth my safety for any amount of cash. The more the sp's do this sort of shit, the more likely someone will lose it on one of us. I do not wish to become a statistic cuz several other ladies play games with you clients. Accepting this sort of behaviour as part of this buissness is exactly why winnipeg is known for this crap all over canada. If you stop giving your cash to bait and switch and start sharing the ladies names who try playing you, you would do yourselves a favour and these ladies would learn it won't be tolerated. It could only get better from there. I thought this was the point of these boards to an extent, but sadly it is proving the opposite with what I have just read here.

 

[ben_dover]

Hey Emily...I haven't seen you yet. I have been meaning to. I don't think you have anything to worry about. Your rep is pretty solid on this board from what I've seen.

 

[2longjohn]

OMG you are kidding me this CashDiesel is a joke you won't name the sp but you bring up Emily in the post. In my opinion this whole post is a joke just set up to try to further smear the reputation of Emily. He joins in Dec. 2012 with 15 posts c'mon. Won't name a sp that he's seen twice haha that's funny in itself, you saw her twice what do you care about her business. Maybe if you saw her 50 times I might understand. I've never seen Emily but she does have rave reviews I'm sure she didn't fake all those. You guys complain theres no sp's on here for their point of view I wonder why, when you pull shit on them like this cause she commented on a post. Emily ads a lot to this review board giving a woman's/sp's point of view and now you have her thinking of quiting, is it really a surprise there's no sp's on here with the abuse they have to take.

 

[Moderator-1]

We are about to end this ... Ahem.... discussion

What started out as a general and informational warning post has turned personal.

This is your warning posters to think carefully and consider before pressing that send key.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Lock her down Mod!
This thread has not really provided us with any useful information anyway.

Cheers

 

[CashDiesel]

OMG you are kidding me this CashDiesel is a joke you won't name the sp but you bring up Emily in the post. In my opinion this whole post is a joke just set up to try to further smear the reputation of Emily. He joins in Dec. 2012 with 15 posts c'mon. Won't name a sp that he's seen twice haha that's funny in itself, you saw her twice what do you care about her business. Maybe if you saw her 50 times I might understand. I've never seen Emily but she does have rave reviews I'm sure she didn't fake all those. You guys complain theres no sp's on here for their point of view I wonder why, when you pull shit on them like this cause she commented on a post. Emily ads a lot to this review board giving a woman's/sp's point of view and now you have her thinking of quiting, is it really a surprise there's no sp's on here with the abuse they have to take.

Well I have been a member of the other erb for quite awhile(under a different handle) and only joined this erb because I thought I could get more info on SP's. I posted this here because poster's can be more honest on this board then they can elsewhere.

I think you should use a little common sense before you post a comment. I started a thread, people responded to my thread by calling for the head of an SP who may have done something wrong outside of her services. I refused to reveal this SP. As per usual some members started to turn on me because of this. Emily decided to join the discussion on her own. To suggest I somehow formulated a plan to start a thread to bring Emily into it so I can smear her reputation is absurd and makes absolutely no sense.

How anyone can see what I did as smearing her reputation is beyond me. Seeing how adamant she was about me outing this SP I felt the need to inform her that I knew for a fact she knew this SP. How is that smearing her reputation?
As per Emily's request I sent her a PM telling her who the SP was. I said that I prefer for it to stay between us but if she feels strongly enough about it she could out the SP. Now I can't be certain she got the PM, as I have heard nothing more from Emily and she obviously hasn't felt the need to post who the SP is. I did that to prove to her she knew the SP in question. Obviously as it stands I was right that she knew her. So in my opinion there has been no smearing of anyone's reputation, because what I said is true.

The only other point I'll make on this is. The main reason I refused to out the SP was I didn't want the backlash. I knew if I outed her I would be made out to be the asshole, the loser, whatever. My concerns have been confirmed, because look what happened when I simply revealed Emily knew this SP. I can only imagine what would have been said if I actually outed this SP. And this SP may not have as stellar a reputation as Emily, but she does have a good reputation. So I'm glad that I didn't and will never.

I am done with this thread, I will not comment any further on it. Say what you want. Put me down, get personal and call me every name in the book whatever. I am taking a long break from this board, and never posting anything ever again here.No matter what!

But I would like to thank the members who backed my decision not to out this SP. I appreciate the post's and PM's.

 

[Misterbeaver]

Thanks to all who sounded off on this issue. I am glad that I am aware that this can happen and feel fore-armed with how to deal with it should I ever run into it.

 

[blazejowski]

What started out as a general and informational warning post has turned personal.

This is your warning posters to think carefully and consider before pressing that send key.

Here, here.... this is getting ugly

 

[Emily BP]

I have received and read the private message. I have spoken to said lady on one occasion, and therefore don't actually know her or anything about her buisness practices.
Please be more informed before posting such statements in future. Thank you for the pm, I will be avoiding this provider should she contact me in the future.

 

[HighEnergy]

Cashdiesel you were wrong to bring Emily into this problem of yours. Absolutely wrong. Emily is a true professional in her work and always personable. She is a true gem. For those if you that say they haven't met Emily yet. You are missing out. I'm sorry that this guy caused you this anguish Emily. My time with you has always been an awesome experience and I will be calling.

 

[Avery]

I debated for awhile weather I was going to post this, but here goes.

Based on what's happened in this thread, I'd say your original instincts were correct. You've refused to name her, you've called her an "ignorant cunt", and you've unjustly involved another SP who is well respected and has nothing to do with the individual you've refused to name. What was the point?

 

[humper1]

Shit disturber

 

[Bobo The Rabbit]

Threads are useless without names.

I've had a couple SPs over the years tell me their real names and three have wanted to hang out, grab dinner or something. I think that's just part of their building a regular client base, throw a regular some social time to keep him coming back, I've never taken them up on it. They're SPs, time is money.

There's a SP in Edmonton (Renee/babeeboo or something on perb). Great provider, I read another guy mention how he lent her a large sum of cash to buy her furniture, with the understanding of it being a payment for future sessions, she just avoided him from then on.
Knowing this I did send her cash before a session to help her out as she needed to pay for a hotel room, only 300 (which is our normal 1hr rate). I showed up for the session and she had a disgusting motel where the water did not even work and she asked for more money, most expensive half hour session ever, don't see her anymore.

I find when I see SPs outside of a MP they are the ones who will ask for extra cash/tips, to me that's the end of it, I pay industry standard and pay before the session, ask for more money because you think we are friends and I will never see you again.

 

[big_pegger]

Starting a thread saying "An SP tried to get more money from me after a session, but I don't want to name her because it will ruin her reputation" is as stupid as the replies saying "OMG! Who was it? I will stay away from her from now on ZOMG!!1!!!"

Hate to break it to you guys: this isn't an honest profession. If the original post was the exact same story but about your pot dealer or some guy that you bought a stolen TV off of, you'd be laughed at. If you name the SP people really shouldn't give a shit. She's an SP.

 

[Jethro Bodine]

Hate to break it to you guys: this isn't an honest profession.

That's a bit harsh.
I'd say this profession is no more dishonest than any other and likely more honest than many.

 

[Sixpak]

That's a bit harsh.
I'd say this profession is no more dishonest than any other and likely more honest than many.

Majority of SPs are no different than non-SPs. You can have a close friendship with a female that is not in the profession who wants to spend time with you a lot because you buy things for her, entertain her, perhaps help with rent or even help with arranging an apartment for her. Maybe some may cut off all connections with you if they figure there is no longer any incentive to continue. How is that any different than an SP doing the same? Of course when the lady asks outright for such an arrangement and is an SP then flags go up. You have to weigh the pros and cons of any arrangement (some of those cons are pretty heavy!! LOL)

Some SPs lack having a gentleman care about them and do value a friendship that might happen, but majority of men would have the red flags popping up in the back of their minds, because they are SPs. Then there are the strictly business types that would never ever fall for a client, and the ones who would fake everything to scam as much as they can out of someone.

You have to be pretty good at judging some of these ladies, and you take a huge risk when larger funds are involved. A non-SP can 'screw' a guy just as terribly as an SP can. It is our own fault if we get conned!

 

[big_pegger]

That's a bit harsh.
I'd say this profession is no more dishonest than any other and likely more honest than many.

And there's the delusion. This is a dishonest profession that attracts dishonest people on both sides. You have SPs with fake names having sex for money with men that are likely cheating on their spouses. That just as dishonest as a pot dealer or someone selling a stolen TV. You'd have to be crazy to think this is an honest profession. There may be legal loopholes that may make it a legal profession in certain situations, but never honest. And since it's a relatively easy profession to get into although not necessarily succeed at, it will attract the crazies - just like any other dishonest profession.

In one breath people are condemning an SP for suggesting a loan from a client, yet in the next breath they are talking about hiding their wallets and watches in their cars before going in. Crazytown.

 

[Balrog]

And there's the delusion. This is a dishonest profession that attracts dishonest people on both sides. You have SPs with fake names having sex for money with men that are likely cheating on their spouses. That just as dishonest as a pot dealer or someone selling a stolen TV. You'd have to be crazy to think this is an honest profession. There may be legal loopholes that may make it a legal profession in certain situations, but never honest. And since it's a relatively easy profession to get into although not necessarily succeed at, it will attract the crazies - just like any other dishonest profession.

In one breath people are condemning an SP for suggesting a loan from a client, yet in the next breath they are talking about hiding their wallets and watches in their cars before going in. Crazytown.

I can think of many professions that are WAY worse than this one: Religious leaders, politician, wrestlers, parking meters patrol, the people who handle the water bills, etc.

Sex for money is not that bad, if you think about it. Is just an exchange of coins. If I could pay my groceries by forking the cashiers, I would do it. The stigma comes from the religious narrow minded oppressors from history who preferred to control the sex exchanges once it became clear that sex in itself wasn't bad at all.

So yeah, the profession is NOT dishonest; some people exercising this profession (like in ANY profession) are the dishonest ones.