Harper gov is determined to strip away our SP's rights...SIGH!

[butthead]

http://www.news1130.com/news/nation...rvatives-to-appeal-ruling-legalizing-brothels

 

[Holly Taylor]

I just have to shake my head at the quotes attributed to Hillah Kerner from Rape Relief:

The Vancouver Rape Relief and Women's Shelter applauds Ottawa's move to take this to the Supreme Court, but feels the feds could do even more.

"We do not want to punish the women who resort to prostitution," says Hillah Kerner with the shelter. "We are calling on the Canadian government to implement guaranteed livable incomes that will protect women from poverty and will not push women to resort to prostitution."

Sex trade workers disagree with the legal action, arguing it disrespects them and their safety but Kerner doesn't see this as a rights issue.

"I think the few women who genuinely have a choice have a responsibility to choose something else," she tells us. "For their sake, it's wrong to sustain industries that are so exploitive and harmful to so many women."

I choose to be an escort. According to her, I am contributing to the exploitation of women? Erm...

 

[Tugela]

I choose to be an escort. According to her, I am contributing to the exploitation of women? Erm...

You are so evil Holly!!

I think she is talking about the survival sex workers, presumably those are the ones she has contact with, as if they are the majority.

She also assumes that the reason these women enter into prostitution is that they are not able to earn enough of an income to live. Her solution apparently is to guarentee all women an income that is "adequate". The error in that argument however is that most of the women who are survival sex workers are doing it because they either (1) have addictions that consume much more than they could earn in a regular job; or (2) have other personal issues that make them incapable of holding down a regular job. While there are probably some "survival workers" who do it because there really is nothing else for them, most do it because they choose to, for various reasons that have little to do with the ability to earn a living through regular work. Allthough their situations might seem desperate, in most cases it is something readily correctable through action on their part.

Then there are others (such as the evil Holly! ) that choose to do it not for survival, but because it enables other parts of their lifestyles or furthers personal goals they might have.

 

[leoghaire]

this is not surprising(or shouldn't be) to anybody. This challenge was going to the SCOC regardless of how the ruling went. Everybody knew that the Ontario Superior Court case was pointless but the rules must be followed.

 

[the old maxx50]

I only can be thank full that Harper will not be there for ever .. One wrong step and the party is gone from office . What will we get in return .. some thing only made in Canada

I agree it has to go through the courts .. . Because our politicians can't make rational decisions

Our charter of rights and freedoms is the one think that . we can use to fight for our right with, and that the court will rule in favor when prescient competently

 

[violetblake]

I just have to shake my head at the quotes attributed to Hillah Kerner from Rape Relief:



I choose to be an escort. According to her, I am contributing to the exploitation of women? Erm...

Ugh, tell me about it. First of all, it's hardly just "a few women" who choose it, there's plenty of us out there. Enough that our voices count. And so do the voices of all the clients and the many varying reasons why they need this service. It's insane to tell me what I should feel and what I should do based on a portion of the sex trade. A portion which in all likelihood is a minority, although there's no way to know for sure. Some people really need to get their heads out of their asses. :frusty:

 

[mimi]

"I think the few women who genuinely have a choice have a responsibility to choose something else," she tells us. "For their sake, it's wrong to sustain industries that are so exploitive and harmful to so many women."

Yes, industries that take advantage of poor and uneducated women by paying $9 per hour. Hardly enough to survive on alone, and not enough to feed a family. Certainly not enough to help with upgrading an education. The Lower Mainland is full of those industries.

Stream and Vantage Foods are two that come to mind.

 

[the old maxx50]

Well there have been porn stars and prostitutes voted in to Parliament in some European countries

 

[DavidMR]

I just have to shake my head at the quotes attributed to Hillah Kerner from Rape Relief:



I choose to be an escort. According to her, I am contributing to the exploitation of women? Erm...

Thanks for pointing out these lunatics and their lunacy. This isn't the first time they've talked nonsense.

 

[Aeiyah]

If only Perb could form a political party ...

You could always join the Sex Party.

 

[Homericles]

Seperation of church and state? What a novel idea? Wasn't there talk of this back in the 17th century???? I can't help but feel that we have regressed as a country and as a society. Just make sure when the next election roles around you remember the robo-calls, the mega prisons, billion dollar fighter jets, Bev Odo and her high priced hotels and of course the court challenge and maybe we can get the "nutters" out of prison. Oh and don't forget Bill C-34!!!!

 

[sevenofnine]

i don't think we appreciate the role money plays in all this

if we have a stable sound finicial country it is more likely to take some sort of moral high ground

if the government sees this as some sort of cash grab they are more likely to legalize it some how.

morals are the luxury of the rich,

prostitution the laws are unlikey to change in my life time

 

[Man Mountain]

I saw a TV report on this last week and have been trying to find as exact a quote as I could of what Justice Minister Rob Nicholson said in the House of Commons at the time he announced bringing the appeal to the Supreme Court. I think I've found it here:

http://www.globalnews.ca/federal+go...legalizing+bawdy+houses/6442628569/story.html

"Prostitution is harmful for society, as it exploits Canada's most vulnerable people, especially women," Nicholson told the House of Commons.

"Canadians can continue to count on this government to protect those who are vulnerable to this kind of exploitation."

And from this link:

http://www.justice.gc.ca/eng/news-nouv/nr-cp/2012/doc_32732.html

"It is our position that the Criminal Code provisions are constitutionally sound. It is important to clarify the constitutionality of the law and remove the uncertainty this decision has created."

"The Criminal Code provisions denounce and deter the most harmful and public aspects of prostitution."

 

[Aleister Crowley]

The hard part about hanggliding and dropping your passenger is having to eat and swallow that fukking memory chip